Don’t know how the books go about determining a line with so much unknown about our rotation for tomorrow night, but I go about it by just making a guess: RU -10
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Way too high. I will say RU -3.Don’t know how the books go about determining a line with so much unknown about our rotation for tomorrow night, but I go about it by just making a guess: RU -10
Like I said, I’m guess Im guessing in what our lineup is perceived to be. You could be right, Anderson.Way too high. I will say RU -3.
They take something similar to a Kenpom spread and might make adjustments to injuries. I would guess somewhere in the RU -3 to -4 range.Don’t know how the books go about determining a line with so much unknown about our rotation for tomorrow night, but I go about it by just making a guess: RU -10
I say pick’em
No shotWithout Paul, it should be a pick'em. I think many underestimate his importance to our team.
You're probably right. And I'm saying if he doesn't play, take Temple with the points.No shot
Why?You're probably right. And I'm saying if he doesn't play, take Temple with the points.
And KenPom is severely overrating Villanova right now based on pre season expectations which if anything is inflating Temple’s rating - at least on paper. Villanova is no 32nd ranked program.They take something similar to a Kenpom spread and might make adjustments to injuries. I would guess somewhere in the RU -3 to -4 range.
We've played a game without Paul? Did I miss something?Why?
Temple lost to Wagner. Villanova isn’t that good. They are #102 in Kenpom. Meanwhile, we’ve moved up from #50 to #40 without Paul or Caleb playing. The 3-4 (which is a 60-70% winning chance) is an appropriate spread without Paul or Caleb. With either of them it should be more.
Yes, yes you didWe've played a game without Paul? Did I miss something?
Worded badly I’ll admit but we did play most of the third game without him. And he has not been putting up insane numbers or anything when he has been playing so far this year so I still don’t think his absence is going to be having more than a point impact on the spread.We've played a game without Paul? Did I miss something?
Are you trying to say his few minutes impacted the UMass Lowell game in a positive way? I cannot imagine his personal +/- exceeded the final victory margin. He had nearly a blank stat line (just 2 rebounds) in 9 early minutes. The score at the 12:17 mark was 5 to 6.We've played a game without Paul? Did I miss something?
This is an understatement. He had no impact on the UM Lowell outcome.Worded badly I’ll admit but we did play most of the third game without him. And he has not been putting up insane numbers or anything when he has been playing so far this year so I still don’t think his absence is going to be having more than a point impact on the spread.
And he was also hurt in the Columbia game; why Pikell kept him in so long in that game or even played is beyond meWorded badly I’ll admit but we did play most of the third game without him. And he has not been putting up insane numbers or anything when he has been playing so far this year so I still don’t think his absence is going to be having more than a point impact on the spread.
There might be something to this, but that was also the stretch where we were losing to Lafayette at home and losing to Illinois by like 40. Hopefully the team is playing better than that now.last year I think there was some nerves or uncertainty playing the first games on the road....
Last year the DePaul and UMass games were close losses, teams that we should have been able to handle.
here, both teams are not at home, so there is that, but sometimes its a matter of which team adapts best, more so if the talent level is anywhere even....not suggesting the talent is even in this case
Well, you set a line both with and without each of them, estimate the probability of them playing, take a weighted average of your spreads, move spread if and when you find the actual status.I don't see how they could set a line without knowing the status of Paul and Caleb.
Honestly - the uncertainty around the Battle situation on their end probably offsets this. They don’t have that many scorers on the roster so if that kid isn’t all in they are going to have a tough time. We’ll know early on if the kid comes to play.Well, you set a line both with and without each of them, estimate the probability of them playing, take a weighted average of your spreads, move spread if and when you find the actual status.
Or, more likely for a rando college bb game like this, your line maker doesn’t know or care that those guys are hurt, you just take the output of your team level model and call it a day
I get people being nervous about this game because it’s one where we obviously could easily lose the game. I don’t get people actually thinking we will lose or are a toss up. Rutgers is the clear favorite here.Everyone seems to be losing faith in how deep this team is after many were saying this is the deepest team we have had in a while
All against an ok Temple team relying on 2 players that appears to be on the verge of imploding due to one of them
Have some faith!
We may be deep but we may be depending on several first year players in there first away from home gameEveryone seems to be losing faith in how deep this team is after many were saying this is the deepest team we have had in a while
All against an ok Temple team relying on 2 players that appears to be on the verge of imploding due to one of them
Have some faith!
Fluoxetine seems to be workingI get people being nervous about this game because it’s one where we obviously could easily lose the game. I don’t get people actually thinking we will lose or are a toss up. Rutgers is the clear favorite here.
This... except I'd say possibly vs easilyI get people being nervous about this game because it’s one where we obviously could easily lose the game. I don’t get people actually thinking we will lose or are a toss up. Rutgers is the clear favorite here.
I hear you, but we’re possibly going to be without two of our guards/wings/ball handlers, which could mean Simpson starts and Miller has to play 20+ minutes.Everyone seems to be losing faith in how deep this team is after many were saying this is the deepest team we have had in a while
All against an ok Temple team relying on 2 players that appears to be on the verge of imploding due to one of them
Have some faith!
ESPN Analytics has this as Rutgers -5.4 with a 71% chance to win. Massey has it RU -6 with almost the exact same score 70-64. So I'll go with RU -5 based on the injury uncertainty.Neutral court no points advantage
Ken Pom RU +15.80 Temple +6.45 -9.35
T-Rank RU +13.5 Temple +8.9 -4.6
$plit the difference RU -7