He built a program that couldn’t win an outright Big East title. He then abandoned the whole program and left it to fall into the shitter right when we were heading to a tougher conference. Dude is the biggest scam artist in NJ
Football Rutgers and Schiano agree to Contract Extension (6.25M/yr)!!!!!
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I don’t agree with it but said in the other thread I thought it would happen because this is what ADs do.
Why so angry? The only reason why we haven’t won anything big is because we don’t have enough talent. Schiano recruited 4 and 5 stars to Miami. He recruited 4 and 5 stars to OSU. He’s struggled to recruit the same caliber athlete to Rutgers. Why? Because this fanbase does not support a Championship Caliber program. We need a Fieldhouse built and increased NIL support. We do these two things and in time we will win Championships of our own.
To recruit the talent we need, we need a Fieldhouse and increased NIL support.
Can we just let nature take its course?
FYI: anyone can recruit 4 and 5 star talent to those teams. You don't hire someone because they're good at recruiting elite players to an elite program. You hire them because they're good at recruiting players to YOUR program. If he can't recruit without tons of money he's no better than most coaches.
Probably a year too early, but the doomsday posts are a bit much. He took over the worst P5 program in football (among the worst situations in all of college football) 4 years ago and has us now firmly in the middle of the pack in the B1G. Yesterday, his salary ranked 17th out of 17 B1G schools (Braun's at Northwestern wasn't disclosed). With the raise, he's now 12th. That's probably where he belongs at the moment. No, we're not yet competing for B1G titles, much less National Championships, but there are 3-4 coaches in this conference that are. And they didn't have to do an Andy Dufresne-like pipe crawl to rebuild a program first.
The $6.25M figure associated with anything associated w/Rutgers Athletics is just sticker-shocking to us all.
The $6.25M figure associated with anything associated w/Rutgers Athletics is just sticker-shocking to us all.
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Completely wrong on this.
If he had known we'd get the Big 10 invite he most likely would have stuck around.
However, he saw the future as us wallowing in a gutted Big East controlled by the basketball schools. Worse, included in the 2008 expansion was a football only facility which got stripped out due to the funding and PR problems associated with that. He saw that facility as a major recruiting tool, hence why that was included in his contract the 2nd time around.
And, finally, this is just my supposition, but I feel the injury to EL haunted him.
The program collapsed because the BOG hamstrung Pernetti with the requirement that Schiano's replacement had to earn under $1 mil. And the attached assistant coaching pool was pitiful.
I wonder if this is a "bribe" because the indoor practice facility is not getting built anytime soon.
This is just not true. You need especially good recruiters for elite programs because they are often competing against other elite programs for the best players. That’s why Greg Schiano was hired from Miami, who was a Top 5 Program at the time.
Embarrassing giving him am extension. Shows the lack of accountability and standard that Rutgers should have and demand
It’s not a Rutgers thing, it’s pretty much most schools. It’s hard to find exceptions that use their resources better. All these big buyouts but does anyone learn? Nope.
No one knows the future so you shouldn’t be paying like you do. Big annual bonuses based on performance would be better if an AD is so desperate to spend millions.
Firmly ? He beat two interim coaches one in his first game.
He beat a D2 school
He was given a shot to prove himself in his last game against Maryland and got smoked.
With more spread offenses coming into the Big ten good luck with his defense.
He was fired from OSU with the most talented D line in CFP history because he was SO bad as a coordinator!
His D improved marginally compared to last year and The O somehow didn’t improve from the it’s basement last 5 in college sports.
Rutgers will never win more than 5 or 6 games with GS. He just won’t be able to recruit the offense playmakers needed in today’s CFB. They won’t play for him. D will always be stout. That’s his forte
Korey Duff, Ben Black, and Crumpler ultimately will develop into playmakers. Next years class will even be stronger.
Yes. There was not a single B1G program that Rutgers was ahead of in December of 2019. Not 1. He finished ahead of 7 this year. Should he give those wins over the interim coaches back? Imagine he had lost those games. And until playing an FCS school becomes the exception and not something that every program in America does, that can't be taken away either.
The Maryland game was his shot to prove himself? 1 game at the end of a 4-game gauntlet to end the year? Man that's rough.
Frankly, I don't care why another program fired him 5 years ago from a different role. RU is not Ohio State. I dream we get to a place where we have the luxury of firing a defensive coordinator off a 13-1 year and a Rose Bowl win.
I'm not worried about the D at all and think Harasymiak was a great hire. The fact that we're retaining much of that talent again next year are checks in both their columns. Offensively, RU has been a mess for a decade, but to say they didn't improve is tough. They went from 13th to 9th in points per game and scored 6 more points per game than they did in '22. The last few games just felt like death by a thousand cuts offensively.
Bad move IMO. I don’t mind the $$ boost but the years aren’t merited. Mediocrity shouldn’t be good enough.
1. If he played Braun at the end of the season, Braun would have ate his lunch. MSU interim coach made the WORST head coaching and gifted us a win. Sure give him credit for FCS win and bad Vatech and Temple teams. Huge year for the old ball coach.
2. Yes Maryland in a bowl eligible year a team that has been in the middle to lower middle of the conference and who has owned Schiano. In a bowl year where supposedly he has turned the team and defense around he got Torched.(At home)
3. Makes sense: why care about him as a defensive coordinator for the number 1 team in the conference and country. I mean they were loaded with 5 stars 3 deep at every position and he was terrible. Why would we want him to be great in that role ? Maybe because it shows what he can actually do with top talent?
4 . The offense was horrific and didn’t improve thankfully for Greg the rest of the big ten was just historically bad make his offense and defense look better but they were not. Look deeper then the first line and understand what your reading. Understand the rule and clock changes and the teams around us this year vs last. One of them will stick out.
Good luck I just hope they left money on the side to buy him out
I thought the years was a bit much myself. An extra year to 2028 would have been just fine to show your commitment to a coach. He'd have 5 yrs., the money bump I was also fine with.
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Agree, totally a small time mentality. 6 wins just one time. He hasn’t even proved consistent mediocrity yet. Such a shame Hobbs rewards such a low level of success.
Go take a flying f*ck at a rolling donut. Go take a flying f*ck to the moooon!
good thing we have the 4 we wanted- you may be late to the parade but we opened our gate a while back- 4 NJ 19 outside NJ recruits...I believe Fran poached from other coaches making this much or more.
You said he recruited 4 and 5 star players for Ohio State and Miami. You think that's not common for those teams every year? By your own admission Schiano is mot recruiting well allegedly because he needs money. Which leads back to what I said.
Wait. Didn't he leave when the Big East was on the verge of collapsing and becoming the incarnation of the dreaded AAC? Shown only on ESPN 8 "The Ocho".
I don’t blame him for leaving to take a job at the very top of the profession. I just think he’s in over his head in this conference and shouldn’t have been hired at 8 yrs and now extended after not accomplishing much. 6 wins one time ?
Developmental, yes. And a reset of expectations. Next year he’ll talk about starting a rebuild
Greg also sort of left, well, because, THE F-ING NFL WAS CALLING
And yes, BE was starting to crumble and Rutgers had already given the word to Tim that things were not going to be the same as they had been for the previous few years.
And yes, BE was starting to crumble and Rutgers had already given the word to Tim that things were not going to be the same as they had been for the previous few years.
Sure, I think he gets the punt off we we return it for a TD. Rest is the same.
Good now the smart AD can ask GS to use his 1st new contract check to buy RU a QB on the open NIL market.
The macho men come out as usual to attack the best man to coach RU. Same guys who go off the rails in first half of basketball games. Good thing is that those that matter ignore your opinions, especially of those that only give with their mouths.
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1. Got it. So basically, none of the wins count. I wonder if those kids think they were gifted 6 wins.
2. I’ll play by your rules here and say that I think RU gives Maryland a much better game if this was at the end of October and not the end of November, after playing top-5 national defenses in 3 consecutive weeks. The whole team looked out of gas.
3. Why should his Ohio St tenure from 5+ years ago be an indictment on the defense he and his staff have built here now? It’s a top-20 unit and the strength of the team.
4. The passing game was horrific. But I’m not going to say there was no improvement. The line play was the best we’ve seen here in a decade and we had the B1G’s leading rusher. Our projected #1 and #2 WRs played a total of 1 half of football combined this season. I’m not saying the passing game was well coached or executed, but I’m not going to bag on the entire offense.
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I know but they have better long term prospects. Football is going to be the same mediocre bore for eternity, bad offense year after year.
As long as these programs hire exceptional recruiters, they will recruit exceptionally, because they offer strong, compelling value propositions. Our value proposition isn’t as strong neither is it as compelling. To strengthen our value proposition we need a Fieldhouse and increased NIL support.
