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Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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There’s just one who claims to know it’s a fact. Others, Shelby included, believe it based on the entirety of info at hand.
He made a statement and people don’t believe him. Do you really think a press conf will help change those people’s minds? Hobbs doesn’t care what people are saying about on TKR or Reddit.
Of course it’s about views for the SL. They’re a business and want stories that people will click on.
I'll wait for the so called devastating affair article that was rumored to be the reason Hobbs retired
to come out before believing those with the : "I heard it on the internet, so it must be true", people posting about why Hobbs retired and not for the health reason he gave.
Also tend to doubt those claiming they have unimpeachable sources attesting to retirement wasn't for health concern as much as get out of Dodge before news of affair breaks .
Too often the inside information shared on an issue by posters who know someone in the know are not being given the right info because those they know are going by what they heard on the internet but claiming it's from the horses mouth
I might as well share my take:
1. Something really BAD involving Pat Hobbs happened
2. There was an investigation and finding of fact during the time Schiano gave the Big Ten Press Conference. This is why Schiano did not mention him, but curiously mentioned Holloway instead.
3. The investigation concluded and Pat was asked to resign
4. Exit conditions were negotiated and NDAs were agreed to, which might include benefits for a period of time and a golden parachute
5. The fact that the Governor and Holloway have been mum, and Schiano’s praise has been understated for what really has been an exemplary tenure at Rutgers looms large. We are in much better shape than we were 9 years ago. The field house and Jersey Mikes projects remain.
6. The “health” reason rationale was given to minimize the damage to Pats and Rutgers reputation
The possibly salacious details really don’t matter.
Time to move on.
1. Something really BAD involving Pat Hobbs happened
2. There was an investigation and finding of fact during the time Schiano gave the Big Ten Press Conference. This is why Schiano did not mention him, but curiously mentioned Holloway instead.
3. The investigation concluded and Pat was asked to resign
4. Exit conditions were negotiated and NDAs were agreed to, which might include benefits for a period of time and a golden parachute
5. The fact that the Governor and Holloway have been mum, and Schiano’s praise has been understated for what really has been an exemplary tenure at Rutgers looms large. We are in much better shape than we were 9 years ago. The field house and Jersey Mikes projects remain.
6. The “health” reason rationale was given to minimize the damage to Pats and Rutgers reputation
The possibly salacious details really don’t matter.
Time to move on.
The doctors told my dad he needed treatment ASAP. He decided to wait until after the holidays. He died of his first heart attack on January 4th.
I’m hoping this take is like your upset alerts
Even if one disregards the ‘known fact’ claim not based on Reddit commentary, it’s difficult to ignore:
*immediate retirement foregoing additional salary via loa, accrued sick time, etc.
*no cardio reason would be a terminal condition compelling being with family ‘at the end’
*no public official acknowledgement and best wishes communication or event from the university for the stellar contributions he’s made.
*omission in Schiano presser
**the above ‘evidence’, yes evidence, suggests forced immediate exit more than the cardio claim by itself suggests otherwise.
Not proof, but stronger evidence than for the alternative retirement rationale.
*immediate retirement foregoing additional salary via loa, accrued sick time, etc.
*no cardio reason would be a terminal condition compelling being with family ‘at the end’
*no public official acknowledgement and best wishes communication or event from the university for the stellar contributions he’s made.
*omission in Schiano presser
**the above ‘evidence’, yes evidence, suggests forced immediate exit more than the cardio claim by itself suggests otherwise.
Not proof, but stronger evidence than for the alternative retirement rationale.
At the very least, Pat deserved to be honored at halftime at the Howard Game, which I guess could happen later.
But The fact it feels like they are trying to sweep this under the rug speaks volumes.
It’s this right here which has me question things - strange turn of events at a strange time
So, you're saying we've finally learned how to handle sh*t sandwiches like the big boys do? No media leaks, clean up in house, tell the media to fvck off nothing's going on. When the story does come out, it's week's old and we've already handled that and moving on.
Or panic at the the suddenness of someone truly worried about his health and feels best to retire and think about what he will say before explaining his health issue., worry about leaders staying mum because they don't want to bring up the health issues they were told about.
It could be as it was stated and before doing anything or saying anything waiting for doctors to say what to expect and what can be done.
As for leaks, a rumor was passed and that rumor included what as going to be written and how a heads up caused retirement.
Sometimes those involved in leadership are waiting for more info and don't want to say anything until the full medical report is complete and feel it's best to keep people in the dark than talk about something they have limited info on
The retirement might be for a nefarious reason , but before I believe that I wait till its proven and keep on feeling Hobbs retired for medical reasons and at this time doesn't want to discuss his health issue any more than he already has and those who are involved with Rutgers are not going to say anything because they are respecting his wishes not to say much about why he retired until Hobbs opens up about it and tells them it's OK to share their knowledge
As for honoring Pat, he might want that to wait until he is clear about the next step he has to make concerning his health.
Then talk to Rutgers about being honored.
He just retired for health reasons and might just want to put that first until he knows the direction he must take to take care that issue
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It’s an internet rumor. If you think programs should refute any unfounded internet rumor..they’d be releasing statements every hour
You know I meant direct evidence when I said "actual" and you should know that the circumstantial evidence being discussed is not direct evidence of the "fact" in question here, i.e., whether Hobbs had some sort of inappropriate relationship. In fact, the circumstantial evidence you and others have been touting consists of relatively inconsequential facts like not having a press conference, not taking a LOA, the abrupt timing, etc., which are a far, far cry from proving anything about an inappropriate relationship. Obviously, it's possible something inappropriate happened, but the "evidence" for that, so far, is beyond flimsy.
https://nij.ojp.gov/nij-hosted-onli...uide-forensic-expert/trial/relevancy-evidence
but that's what PR positions are for 😁
By the way, wasn't there a rumor or two on this board ( in the past) that you were connected to the Star Ledger because you defended it at times.
If so: when can we expect the affair article to be put out that the Star Ledger gave Rutgers (Hobbs) a heads up would be published that made Hobbs get out of town quicker than grease lightning 😇😎
Yes, because the general public believes a man that gets up to the mic and says "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".
Are we now at the point in society where people need to publicly refute anonymous Reddit and Fan Board posters?
Exactly my point
You people think the powers that be at RU give a crap about this thread?!? Puhleaze. Or what is being said on the cesspool that is Reddit?
Come on people. This thread is just the ramblings of: a very few super fans, a Cuse troll, a few people claiming something/ but offering nothing, and a smattering of a few other random trolls. It’s utterly meaningless.
The other examples (lance Armstrong, etc etc) were faaaaaaar more “out there” than this thread and some silly thread on Reddit.
I am not commenting on the potential legitimacy of what’s being said on here or Reddit but….
If these are the only places where this stuff is being discussed then they would be exercising serious PR malpractice if they addressed it right now…. Would only serve to bring the rumors to light.
Reporter: “Mr Holloway, could you clarify why you felt the need to hold this press conference since there has been nothing in the press what-so-ever suggesting anything other than health reasons?”
President Holloway: “Well there are hints of some rumors on a Rutgers sports message board and Reddit, so……..”
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I heard there was a sex tape but Holloway refused to watch it for months.
let me be clear, I’m not calling a press conference simply to deny this, but I would have a press conference to announce my retirement (and, given what he has done for Rutgers , he has certainly earned that right), and, as such, if this issue came up in the press conference, or was a prevalent news story in the mainstream media, and I would absolutely address it
It’s very true that “the truth shall set you free”. My only hope is that people will seek to obtain it rather than to believe that most journalists are “fake” or “corrupt”. Anyone who thinks those in positions of power or seeking power are arbiters of truth are particularly delusional.
Apparently his heart was well enough to fly 7 hours across the Atlantic to vacation in Ireland
I don’t think PR positions care about baseless internet rumors..though I’m not in PR so maybe they do.
I don’t think many college football people or even Rutgers people have even heard this rumor outside of this message board
As far as your question about me,,,Yes a rumor I’ve addressed many times.
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and I expect to see it pop up again.
As for the Hobbs rumor: Mrs.Screw's vacation in Ireland message gives me pause for thought and makes me not so sure if Hobbs retirement was based only because of his health.
But until the proof is put in the pudding , I'll not say otherwise .
This is a very well thought post Al . Is it just your take or do you have some inside info?
Just my take based on the Star Ledger articles and Schiano’s words, and professional experience. I wouldn’t be surprised if Amy Towers and the rest of the athletics committee brought in an outside law firm to conduct interviews and draw conclusions. This was very well organized and well handled, unlike the train wrecks we are used to.
Unless someone involved admits an "affair" no one knows the truth. Even then one person saying so does not necessarily prove a thing. Some on here said neither Schiano or Pike have made statements praising Hobbs since he resigned or they say they waited. Like that was an indictment of Hobbs. Pike was in Europe on vacation and called in to praise Hobbs. Schiano had a last scimage to contend with and praised Hobbs at his presser after. Why all the efforts to assume the worst ?? Some people relish in train wrecks .
Pat and Patrice were on a date in Ireland today per the post above. They looked happy. How many couples go on a date in another country when one of them cheated? Not many.
All good. I’ve done work WITH advance media in the past. Their sites/publications used the production company I used to work with to create sports video consent. NJ.com was a site we produced content for. And I can assure you they want nothing but success for RU as success drives popularity which drives clicks.
The production company is no longer around. So I have bo more “affiliation” with any advance sites.
After reading these two, I will give that to both of you, even though the round about evidence seems to be pointing towards something other/in addition to a health problem. Now his immediate health concern is ok enough for him to hop on a plane and take smiley pictures in Ireland??? Sounds and looks pretty fishy to me folks.
Hobbs now on holiday in Ireland and thus would be unavailable for comment should journalists seek his input per any developments this coming week. Oh-kee doh-kee.... Nothing to see here. Move along....
Only assuming that if something did happen here, PR departments can be masters at deception.
See Al's post above. Yes, round about. Loose evidence based on observations. Doesn't make me conclude anything, but sure makes me wonder if it is solely because of an immediate health issue that has allowed him to travel thousands of miles away from his doctor. Yes, that is more round about evidence as well.
This might be worthy of its own thread.
Catastrophic health emergency to resign immediately from RU Athletics 12 days before football season…
But you can vacation in Ireland the next day?
Something doesn’t add up. At all
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