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Noticed it on The Round Table too.
Lotta redshirts and freshmen.
Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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Noticed it on The Round Table too.
Lotta redshirts and freshmen.
I hear you on this, but feel this type of mentality permeates (and understandably so) our fanbase
I see great things for this athletic dept and know we can, and should be, elite and in the upper echelon of college athletics moving forward
We have nearly everything we need to be successful - now it’s up to us (fans, admins, athletes, coaches) to make it happen
In the words of Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush-this song is a great salve during rough times:
Did he get accused of something that I missed or has it just been Reddit and our message board?
This is a well thought out and posted snapshot of the situation. There may certainly be more to the story than we (the public) have been privy to.
I understand that social media feeds off of rumors and skepticism. That being said, I personally really don't care nor have significant interest in why Hobbs is resigning/retiring (or otherwise) from RU. I have interest in how this change will impact RU but I'm not really into the whole public needs to know what's going on in the private lives of public figures.
Serious. Sure. Catastrophic health emergency that he can’t travel? That’s just a dumb assumption
Nothing formal (thankfully) as of yet, and hopefully ever
Just Reddit, message board and vauge Politi innuendos
If I found out I had a worsening heart condition and the stresses of my job would make it even worse, and, I am already set for life $$$$ - my wife would insist I walk into the office and give my notice.
No one suggested that he can’t travel but the timing of the trip can be viewed as a bit curious.
Is it being reported, or threat of it being reported, the reason for the resignation? Chicken and egg.
I don’t think the timing of the trip is weird at all. If fact, I could totally see someone who just got some scary news booking a spur of the moment trip with their spouse to get away. I don’t think it’s weird for him to look happy in a frozen point in time snapshot either.
I hear what you're saying. But the cover up is always worse than the crime. And we aren't in Norman, OK. The local media will not let this go away quietly.
My uncle Pete (God rest his soul) had a quote that comes to mind: "The little hole will put you in a big hole."
Blame it on Hobbs. He started this mess.
I don’t think so at all. First weekend retired, I’d do the same thing
But the travel...Depending on the diagnosis, when it was diagnosed/treated, how stable it is and what the prognosis is going forward, a worsening heart condition typically wouldnt have someone skipping off to Ireland, away from their medical specialists.
doesn't matter where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if it was posted anywhere on the internet it must be true and many in this thread are finding ways to make that a valid statement.
An article exposing Hobbs was claimed to be the reason he retired, yet no article has come forward , so his trip to Ireland is proof he didn't retire for medical reasons.
Hell the conspiracy theorists might be right, but I'll wait for the article and/or other facts to come out before believing Hobbs didn't retire for heath reasons
Relax
The guys a public figure - this comes with the territory
The circumstances behind him leaving are definitely sketch
He didn’t come in here squeaky clean - doesn’t mean he did anything wrong, or does it mean he’s completely innocent
Nobody on here is hoping it’s true
it could tarnish his reputation for what has been otherwise stellar tenure here, propelling us into the next level of big 10 competitiveness and hopefully elite status
But onjecruvely speaking, his departure, coupled w the curious timing, SL inuendos, quick trip abroad and subsequent rumors are certainly caused for questioning
I’m going to reiterate, nothing is official until it’s proven, and nobody on here hopes that it’s true
But to simply dismiss it because it does not fit the narrative of our fanbase is foolish to say the least
It is kind of sad to see how with the slightest of evidence, sometimes it's just what someone says on the matter without proof, public figures are accused of things and that is considered part of the game.
Not one shred of evidence was produced , but speculating wrongdoing is defended by many posting here.
As for no one wants the worst, maybe that's true/ maybe if nefarious deeds went on or if any really did, but until valid proof is presented I will believe Hobbs' claim he retired for medical reasons and ask those speculating what real proof are they going by or just following the crowd listening to an unsubstantiated rumor and believing it true .
Some are saying : "wait for it"
I just think it's not nice to accuse someone that has done a good job for Rutgers as it's AD of being a lowlife and he retired because that was going to be exposed and not supplying any more proof than:" I heard it through the grapevine"
Well that just isn’t true
There are certainly a few trolls on here hoping exactly that. In fact that’s exactly why they are here
Maybe not so much a coverup as more of a delay. Get to as close to the start of College football as you can, so the news dies quickly. When you have Clemson vs Georgia kicking off, nobody who cares about college football is going to care about a Politi article on an AD. Those who don't care about College football may kick and scream, but nobody cares about them anyway.
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I’d like to think we are all on the same page here, and are hoping that this athletic department reaches elite status, which is where our university deserves to be, especially after decades of futility and scandals out the ass
If something bad happened, There is no cover up because there have been consequences. Pat Hobbs is no longer working for Rutgers. Question is, does the public have the right to know EVERYTHING that happened? If there is an active NDA that has been executed, that can’t be accessed via OPRA, we may never know.
Of course I have no idea what will happen in the future. That said, the immediate public reaction of Rutgers collectively lacked the external compassion that is typically expressed by administrations in a situation like this. I respect that some folks prefer to choose not to think about this or acknowledge it, but a simple comparison to any other Rutgers employee (prominent enough to warrant a public announcement) who ever left Rutgers abruptly following a bad medical report or really for any medical reason would support this statement. It’s not random Reddit speculation.
I agree. I don’t want to know because I think I have a right to know. I want to know because I think it will come out eventually and the effort to conceal whatever it is that is contributing to the less-than-warm send off for Hobbs will present Rutgers in a bad light. It’ll be perceived as lying by ommission. Fair or not.
Short of something criminal, the more time that goes by, the more faint that "bad light" gets.
Is that the same actor who was the black jack dealer in Vegas Vacation?It is kind of sad to see how with the slightest of evidence, sometimes it's just what someone says on the matter without proof, public figures are accused of things and that is considered part of the game.
Not one shred of evidence was produced , but speculating wrongdoing is defended by many posting here.
As for no one wants the worst, maybe that's true/ maybe if nefarious deeds went on or if any really did, but until valid proof is presented I will believe Hobbs' claim he retired for medical reasons and ask those speculating what real proof are they going by or just following the crowd listening to an unsubstantiated rumor and believing it true .
Some are saying : "wait for it"
I just think it's not nice to accuse someone that has done a good job for Rutgers as it's AD of being a lowlife and he retired because that was going to be exposed and not supplying any more proof than:" I heard it through the grapevine"
My attention span is short. Yes, I'm still posting in this thread, but I will never care about an article that Politi and NJ.com write about. It will be sourced as "according to sources within the Athletics department who would not be named for this story. . . . . .".
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Good point, especially : "perceived as lying by ommission. "
But if there's nothing to the accusation , no need to address it by the accused
The public's right to know shouldn't be having to deny rumors that are started because someone thinks something went on behind the scenes and others find that believable , even if proof wasn't provided just an accusation and promise of more later
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What’s being described is affair with a subordinate who by all accounts wasn’t doing stellar in her position of employment, covering up the subpar performance via adultery & quasi nepotism, then resigning 10 days before the start of football season under the guise of health issues, compounded by lack of press conference & subsequent current trip with his wife (overseas, no less) soon after his health related retirement would be, unfortunately, the textbook definition of a coverup, if said actions prove to be true
Well, the reason for his dismissal is that it's health related. Nobody said there was a violation of company conduct or a morals clause. So they are kind of covering it up right?
IF all those things are true (a big if), I still don’t see it as a cover up. A cover up would require that Rutgers as an institution had knowledge of the inappropriate conduct and made efforts to ignore it and/or sweep it under the rug.
It’s entirely possible that upon being made aware of the supposed behavior, Rutgers took immediate action.
At the end of the day, none of this is known at this time so I’m in the camp of everyone shutting up about it until more info is confirmed…if that ever happens.
We’ve got a football game in 10 days.
Personally I couldn’t care less what did or didn’t happen - Just win
ScarletAL was the voice of reason and logic on this. (Not sarcasm.)
Way better than weird takes on his health insurance and vacation plans.
Way better than weird takes on his health insurance and vacation plans.
in addition it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he resigned from AD position but is/was allowed on backend to just go on LOA from the overall working for RU (which would keep the insur
but how do you prove a negative? That’s part of the issue for your concern—-it will just loom because you can’t really squash it prior to any actual accusations solidify. And if there’s nothing then the rumors will just linger for a while.
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