Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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YES.
YES.
THIS IS RUTGERS, PROBABLY NOT. E-MAIL HIM!
YES.
YES.
NOPE.
Recurrence of cancer does not require immediate attention though. A heart condition followed by an immediate resignation sure might depending on the circumstances. As I said earlier, depends on the diagnosis, how long it's been known/treated, severity, prognosis, etc. There are too many what ifs, but at face value, leaving your medical team behind and travelling overseas doesn't seem like the wisest choice here.
Actually it did. Stage 4, needed to start chemo asap.
Obviously much more to it. Most of us will never know.
Seems odd that even with a medical condition there would be a notice of leaving. 2 weeks or whatever.
Gone the same day ?
Look there are plenty of medical issues that require immediate attention. There are zero medical issues that require you to return to the office straight from the doctor and quit on the spot and vacate the premises a few minutes thereafter and not speak to anyone on the way out. Especially when work is your life and you are basically the CEO and have all sorts of other leave of absence type of options available. Not to mention the trip to Ireland which everyone knows is the....umm...top destination for medical treatment?
Honestly what is the end game to all the speculation?
Best case scenario for RU is that nothing further ever comes to light, period. Why are our biggest fans the ones trying to make something more out of it?
The whole "Jersey eats our own" is not at all the badge of honor folks like to pretend. Cry about the unfair media coverage all year, but then given the chance, invite it yourselves via rampant speculation formulated out of nothing. Absolutely maiming your nose to spite your face.
Best case scenario for RU is that nothing further ever comes to light, period. Why are our biggest fans the ones trying to make something more out of it?
The whole "Jersey eats our own" is not at all the badge of honor folks like to pretend. Cry about the unfair media coverage all year, but then given the chance, invite it yourselves via rampant speculation formulated out of nothing. Absolutely maiming your nose to spite your face.
We have no idea what kind of test it was or what his heart issue is. There are plenty of circumstances where taking a trip after getting difficult news wouldn’t be unusual.
On the other hand, the Friday news dump and the way the news was rolled out by Rutgers are very atypical. Holloway didn’t even do as Greg did and “wish Hobb the best” - literally nothing but radio silence with respect to the medical issues leading Hobbs to abruptly resign. It’s one thing not to want to think about it or openly acknowledge the strangeness but it’s remark are accusing those who pointed it out of spreading rumors and speculation.
Do we know for sure that all was cleared out in that way? Technically he might’ve given notice and used vacation time but the school decided to expedite so as not to sit on appointing someone as interim.
If I were a mod, I’d close the thread right here at this post. Spot on.
I’m not a mod though…I’d be draconian af tho.
They are. Also, it doesn't have to be either/or. You can be both a die hard fan and think the way this was handled is suspicious. Also, you can think it is suspicious without accusing anyone of wrong doing.
Do you wanna be blindsided or informed? Additionally it was PLASTERED all over the Michigan boards last year when they were being investigated for stealing signs. I guess to answer your question, yes! Other teams absolutely discuss unusual situations.
The fact that Pat resigned the way he did, when he did, with no leave of absence or any say in hiring his replacement? For a guy who universally is beloved for the job he did? Just use your head a little bit here man. Almost always where there's smoke, there's fire. There is undeniably smoke coming from the situation
Big difference between traveling overseas and traveling domestically from an insurance standpoint. I hope your wife made a full recovery
This does seem a bit ridiculous though that people still hanging onto the idea that this was all just a medical decision are essentially pigeonholing themselves into an idea that whatever Pat has is Terminal with very time to live. That would really be the ONLY logical reason to resign in the manner he did if the situation was entirely medical. And even then there'd be a Leave of Absence and interm AD while Hobbs stays on University Insurance.
It is what it is. Dude got caught sleeping around with the Gymnastics coach and was forced to resign.
If its strictly medical there's no doubt he would have gone on a LOA if nothing else to stay on University Insurance.
100% chance there's more to it than just a "medical condition"
I mean, this guy was basically marched out of the building by security. So either he has something pretty damn contagious LOL or it ain't health related.
My only point was that it's not that unusual to take a trip when receiving bad medical news. It gave us some fun before returning to "reality" and facing the necessary treatments.
And thank you for asking, she is well but still in active treatment. Just passed her 24th anniversary of her diagnosis date and goes for injections every 3 weeks to keep her well.
Sir. Sir!
Did you not see the 300 posts in this thread re: Medicare Part A, B, and D; SHBP; whether a family plan costs more than two individual plans; COBRA-La-La-La-La??
Most of which were waaaay off btw.
FWIW, Schiano was scheduled to speak at Thursday's TD Club meeting. Not any more!
Maybe because he just lost his top LB for the season and has some other injuries to deal with. Didn't seem to be in the best mood in his last interview. The one before he seemed almost happy but a rash of injuries which he alluded to can dampen any coaches' spirits.
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A thread was started in this free side that involved premium content and it was moved to the premium side
It had this in it that makes me think my stance that the rumor was just BS might be the wrong one to take.
I checked all 18 pages of this thread and didn't find a message from FK in it
here's what was posted ( by RURahh)> Trilly Donavan on Hobbs ( a premium thread that was moved there from free side )
>thread message<
"Not a member of his discord group but apparently cited lots of stuff from this thread. If correct, some people are gonna need to give @Fat Koko some props
Edit: The Trilly discourse repeats much of what is in that linked OP and for those who follow @Fat Koko - Trilly was confirming his speculation. I got this second hand as I am not in his discourse, and for all I know maybe it was posted and deleted. The source was NOT from Rutgers but knows Pat
Enough of you are on there that it shouldn't be shocking news"
( there was a link in it that was premium so won't post that here )
Maybe my saying rumor was probably BS might not hold true , but will wait till facts come out
before saying I was wrong.
It had this in it that makes me think my stance that the rumor was just BS might be the wrong one to take.
I checked all 18 pages of this thread and didn't find a message from FK in it
here's what was posted ( by RURahh)> Trilly Donavan on Hobbs ( a premium thread that was moved there from free side )
>thread message<
"Not a member of his discord group but apparently cited lots of stuff from this thread. If correct, some people are gonna need to give @Fat Koko some props
Edit: The Trilly discourse repeats much of what is in that linked OP and for those who follow @Fat Koko - Trilly was confirming his speculation. I got this second hand as I am not in his discourse, and for all I know maybe it was posted and deleted. The source was NOT from Rutgers but knows Pat
Enough of you are on there that it shouldn't be shocking news"
( there was a link in it that was premium so won't post that here )
Maybe my saying rumor was probably BS might not hold true , but will wait till facts come out
before saying I was wrong.
so now some dopey people are saying he was he was led out of the building by security--some of you are just plain full of it. Gossip mongers like 12 year olds --not worth the discussion. The end.
Some of you here are really going to struggle in the new world where audio and video deep fakes are easy to make. Taking things at face value without critical thinking.
The circumstances and events scream loud and clear what happened here.
You think an AD had an international vacation scheduled less than 10 days out from a home opener ?!
Isn’t it odd that there hasn’t been an outpouring of support from inside the dept for his health challenge
Isn’t it unusual that he is no longer involved at all almost immediately. Health or not .
Why would it be released on a Friday afternoon with such an ambiguous statement
I don’t want the details of what happened to come out either. But come on now guys.
The circumstances and events scream loud and clear what happened here.
You think an AD had an international vacation scheduled less than 10 days out from a home opener ?!
Isn’t it odd that there hasn’t been an outpouring of support from inside the dept for his health challenge
Isn’t it unusual that he is no longer involved at all almost immediately. Health or not .
Why would it be released on a Friday afternoon with such an ambiguous statement
I don’t want the details of what happened to come out either. But come on now guys.
You are now the "Mark Lane" of the Rutgers Athletic Director resignation.
Your post is is pretty solid as I see it. Can't disagree with a word of it and hope it turns out okay for Rutgers...
It’s easy to understand if he was essentially fired immediately and given the opportunity to resign first. Granted, it’s IF but then things would make more sense
The lack of basic critical thinking skills by some is astounding. Maybe they’re penn state trolls lol
Unfortunately, you nailed all of it.
This feels like a time bomb situation. I just want to get it over with already. Whatever “it” is. There’s no need to speculate about what it could be, but we do know the face value information doesn’t add up.
Consider face value points A and B. A) Poor Hobbs got personal health news that was so bad it forced him to step away instantly and permanently from all RU responsibilities. B) In response to resignation, Holloway issues public statement that doesn’t even wish Hobbs the best. No concern expressed whatsoever from Holloway about Hobbs health. The one and only thing we do know for sure is that unless there’s a face value point C - C) Holloway is a complete a-hole (which we know isn’t the case) A and B can’t both be true. Holloway is a class act. If A was true, B would’ve been framed completely differently.
I was just told by the TD Club president that his daughter is playing soccer & it will be the only game he can make to see her play
Devin McCourty is stepping in instead. Schiano has been rescheduled to Thursday, September 19th.
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Let's say the rumor of the Gymnastics coach is true- while it is an affair and she is a direct report- unless she was forced or underage- it is a bad look for Hobbs but how is it such a big scandal?
Maybe it’s not. But it is a firable offense in just about any company. Especially where one has a such a public position .
Maybe the forced resignation is their way of avoiding a deeper scandal . Or maybe there’s more already there. I don’t know that for sure and hopefully we don’t hear anything more than the rumors as a new star studded AD is hired soon
It’s not. Hopefully it turns out that’s all it is and based on Hobb’s good will we agreed to handle it this way to spare him public embarrassment. These things quietly leak out but that’s different I guess than a plastered announcement.
Only a few idiots have been proclaiming this to be some huge scandal. Most have just responded to those loyalists who feel they have to defend the possibility that what’s out there already is the whole story. As I said before, unless Holloway is a complete a-hole, that just can’t be true. When someone important is sick and resigns because of it -universities ask the community to join them in keeping the Hobbs family in their thoughts and prayers, etc. It would actually be worse if Rutgers simply decided not to do that for no good reason.
There is just so much weirdness regarding how this has played out so far. 1) abrupt unexpected resignation due to health concerns that no one in the public knew about 2) Done on a friday to play out over the slow weekend news cycle 3) Done two weeks before home opener 4) Rutgers top administration has been remarkably quiet about this and the "official" statement of Pats resigning didn't acknowledge his health issues. 4) After getting this devastating cardiac related news Pat immediately ends up on a trip to Ireland.
As many have pointed out there is alot weirdness going on with how this has played out so far. Also, in every recent past instance of a resignation at RU their has been a scandal driving it. We will see how all this goes down.
Number 4 isn’t just weird - it doesn’t happen anywhere, ever. Not when a respected leader resigns for medical reasons. Rutgers went out of its way to avoid acknowledging the health issues in the thank you statement.
Greg and Steve didn’t go quite as far, but a close look shows both were careful not to directly acknowledge the medical issues (I.e. nothing they said couldn’t have been said if they had knowledge that Hobbs had really resigned for different reasons). Pike said - I’m glad Pat will have the time to take care of himself (or something like that). Schiano said wishing him the best with his health and family (classic Greg - people put - best wishes for a healthy new year on holiday cards all the time). Yes - with Greg and Pike - though odd, one could argue it to be speculative. Not Holloway though. There’s no angle where that part makes sense holding only what is know to be fact today as true.
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Not exactly. Fair questions have been raised about the timing and suddenness of the decision. The wording of his statement is a bit odd: "After meeting with my cardiac team this week and having just been apprised of the results of my latest round of testing, it is clear that I can not continue to serve as Athletic Director given the requirements of the position. I recognize this is not the ideal timeline to depart, however, other factors need to take precedence."
Nearly 10 years of excellent service as the AD. Gone in a flash. It's fair to ask if there will be a recognition event of his work as AD, either in the form of a luncheon, a dinner or even something at half time at a football or basketball game. If not, then that raises a question -- why not? He has a broken heart and he is healthy enough to travel to Ireland the day after his resignation. Why would he not be healthy enough to come back to celebrate his accomplishments and thank him for his service with an appropriate event? Maybe that will happen?
The only thing we can do is: expect the worst , but hope for the best ( if a major health problem being cause for retirement is better than having to get out of town before an affair comes to light )
As for me, I'll believe the affair rumor when it's a proven fact and still consider health was the reason.
I just won't be disputing anyone saying it was an affair.
I don't know the real reason and can't go by anyone claiming they know until it becomes public knowledge.
I think we all have a little PTSD being Rutgers fans
From bad things happening due to scandals in the past, coupled with the RU screw, and watching athletics department that has been largely unsuccessful and pedestrian for the past 50+ years, it’s in our DNA
From bad things happening due to scandals in the past, coupled with the RU screw, and watching athletics department that has been largely unsuccessful and pedestrian for the past 50+ years, it’s in our DNA
We all know this has been a strange ride- but also so strange that nothing has really come out at all- BTW- if it was an affair- Mrs. Pat gets actor of the year award in her vaca pics
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