What would the best case here for Rutgers? Pat really does resign begrudgingly because health issues forced his hand. After absorbing the news, Holloway couldn’t even take care to wish him the best of luck with his health issues on behalf of the Rutgers community in our public announcement? Would that narrative really be such a good look for us?
Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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What would the best case here for Rutgers? Pat really does resign begrudgingly because health issues forced his hand. After absorbing the news, Holloway couldn’t even take care to wish him the best of luck with his health issues on behalf of the Rutgers community in our public announcement? Would that narrative really be such a good look for us?
You think an AD had an international vacation scheduled less than 10 days out from a home opener ?!
Isn’t it odd that there hasn’t been an outpouring of support from inside the dept for his health challenge
Isn’t it unusual that he is no longer involved at all almost immediately. Health or not .
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As I said immediately after the news, if it was solely health, there would be a leave of absence while the situation is more deeply evaluated from both ends.
This complete severing speaks to something different. That's not rumor mongering, but speaking from experience advising opn these very issues.
Isn’t it odd that there hasn’t been an outpouring of support from inside the dept for his health challenge
Isn’t it unusual that he is no longer involved at all almost immediately. Health or not .
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All relevant queries.
As I said immediately after the news, if it was solely health, there would be a leave of absence while the situation is more deeply evaluated from both ends.
This complete severing speaks to something different. That's not rumor mongering, but speaking from experience advising opn these very issues.
He could of given two weeks notice and he would never be part of selecting his replacement, not even a little bit.
Best case for Rutgers is this stays about as quiet as it has thus far and we hire a home run new AD. Can’t we just stop all the speculation until such time that more details are confirmed?
I would hope that the affair wasn't the cause and his health issue though serious enough to retire might not be life threatening with the proper treatment and a more relaxing lifestyle .
As for Holloway's reaction; it seems a little strange , but might be because Hobbs wants everything low key for now and the less said about his health the better until Pat and his wife feel ready to talk about his health more than just a written statement. I won't push that as a reason , only say it's a possibility .
But could be because Holloway wasn't too happy with the way things went down.
We can only guess, until the truth comes out.
live screen shot from Holloway Zoom interview
as for the sex, don't be so nosey .
but a picture of a gymnast relaxing might be in order
It would be a real "who cares" in the grand scheme of things, ya.
It was only an article. No interview. In the same press release, Hobbs himself spoke about the medical issues citing them as the reason for his resignation. So your saying it’s possible he asked Holloway not to wish him well? That’d be more than just a little strange. IMO Holloway’s statement is the most unsettling piece to this.
Let me tell you something. Heaven forbid Hobbs dies next month of a heart attack and it turns out that’s exactly what this was all about? RU administration would look pretty crappy.
The SL would find a way to blow it up as news. We wouldn’t look good.
Honestly - the best case scenario is Hobbs screwed up and had an affair. Someone who had it out for the gym teacher or whoever it was filed a whistleblower complaint that Hobbs was giving her preferential treatment with some administrative stuff. Once a complaint is filed in the hotline RU has to investigate it. The affair was uncovered. It happens. People make mistakes. But if it went down in a way like that, the association to potential conflict of interest wouldn’t be avoidable. RU would’ve done the right thing then, and it only just sucks that we parted with a good AD.
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not saying he asked no one to wish him well, just thinking Hobbs wanted as little said as possible until he was ready to talk to press about his health.
Holloway might not have wanted to put himself in a position to explain why he wished Hobbs well and talk about what he knows about Hobbs' health issues.
There could be one thousand reasons Holloway didn't say anything that we would expect him to say, some good/some bad , but we can only guess and go by what we think until the whole story comes out.
So far I haven't heard anything to convince me one way or another .
But will play the Devil's advocate, when asked questions I can't answer because I'm not in the know .
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And I'm wondering why the SL hasn't said anything.( that I've heard about)
Has anyone posting in this thread read something about Hobbs retirement in the SL other than a health issue??
I believe it was posted that someone though the SL gave RU/Hobbs a heads up on a damaging article and that heads up caused Hobbs to retire.
But all I see is this boar speculating the worst case scenario and implying health wasn't the issue.
But Hobbs can go to Ireland and have pictures posted of himself enjoying myself right after leaving??. Unless terminal or diagnosed and treated many months ago (and stable), highly suspicious.
Public relations at its' best?
No!! People are eating this stuff up. 20 pages and will continue to grow. My thought as always, you wanted the high profile job, mega $$$. It comes with the good and the bad. The bad has now arrived.
Nope. But remember a probable gymnast at Action Park many moons ago and thought, OMG!
Unless this sudden diagnosis is a terminal condition or a non-threatning heart ailment that does not need immediate medical attention, if Hobbs died next month of a heart attack drinking a Guinness from the hometown tap or kissing the Blarney Stone, it's all on him.
Hell for all I know the affair caused his heart condition because for the last 20 yeas he was all stressed out that his wife would find out about the love child that affair produced 😁🫨😇
Now there's a " love child" ?? People are nuts.
So- here is the other side of it- If he had this affair- his biggest concern is his wife- yeah- job wise, sucks but the man has cash and no worries to step away and in a year he is a B1G TV guy.
If it was a real scandal- that he knows is breaking- it is still wife first and really, unless underaged or forced, no real big deal and life goes on in a year.
It is all just very strange.
I still wish him and his family the bast.
If it was a real scandal- that he knows is breaking- it is still wife first and really, unless underaged or forced, no real big deal and life goes on in a year.
It is all just very strange.
I still wish him and his family the bast.
Me too. Even if they were to claim it was tied to his judgement as an AD, pretty much anything could be framed as a scandal once he had the affair. That’s why it’s treated as a conflict of interest. Because once the affair happens all it takes is one person to make an accusation that he’s giving preferential treatment to the employee he’s sleeping with.
But honestly - so what? If he did that, it has nothing to do with the job he did as AD.
been away from this thread for a few days
So let me get this straight…
.as of now nothing has come out in ANY legitimate press source
This still still just conjecture by know-nothings on this board and some random Reddit thread
Status the same since Sunday?
Do I have that right?
Yet supposed RU fans continue to spout their conspiracy theories?
Sound correct?
Just checking since, again, I’ve been away from this thread a few days and scanning the comments it seems it’s just more of the same crap.
Am I wrong?
So let me get this straight…
.as of now nothing has come out in ANY legitimate press source
This still still just conjecture by know-nothings on this board and some random Reddit thread
Status the same since Sunday?
Do I have that right?
Yet supposed RU fans continue to spout their conspiracy theories?
Sound correct?
Just checking since, again, I’ve been away from this thread a few days and scanning the comments it seems it’s just more of the same crap.
Am I wrong?
The plot thickens! In all reality, it is what it is, time for Rutgers sports to move past. Onward and upward.
It's much of the same crap. But more of the connecting the dots from circumstantial evidence. Welcome back!
Agree
Pat did a tremendous job here and left this place in a way better shape than when he came
Very grateful for his tenure and looking forward to the future of Rutgers athletics
The problem is…and I am the biggest it ain’t nothing until it’s something and let the man move on since doing a great job here.
The problem is that it has been radio silence from the inside. Even press conferences- you really would expect at least something near, dear and heartfelt but it has just been strange.
And the worst thing I heard is maybe an affair with a subordinate that was of age and agreeable.
That is something to be fired over but 100% of people in his position negotiate some sort of deal. Or just get fired.
It really is strange and then again- if there are no legs- then it is what it is.
I also find it strange that after 3 days- no one has really broken a story
All I know is, even as a homo, straight dudes will do all kinds of things for cooter…young or otherwise. What a cool little thread…
Public relations...and they are earning a nice salary for doing pretty much nothing.
What the hell does this mean??? Little too much bourbon after the brisket??
Mad is a good poster but I’m lost on this one. I guess he’s suggesting that it’s possible Holloway just deliberately avoided saying anything that might lead to follow up questions about Hobbs health issues. But it doesn’t make any sense. He doesn’t have to answer any quesitons he doesn’t want for starters (see how Greg told Brian to pound dirt when he asked for details about conversations with Pat). But also, Hobbs offered the info himself.
Everyone offers thoughts and prayers to medical challenges. Have a listen to the TKR podcast on Toure. Lots of thoughts and prayers. This omission isn’t just a little odd.
What are you saying ? Pike, Schiano and Halloway all acknowledged his health issues and wished he'd be OK and overcome them and in addition pointed out all the good he did for RU. What am I missing-- eulogies like he died?? In addition you know nothing about plans they may or may
not have.
If you’re gonna plow the field you might as well do it with a gymnast. Really opens up the aorta.
Holloway definitely did not do what you said. He didn’t even wish Hobbs well unless there was another statement he made subsequent to the press release that I missed.
None of them directly “acknowledged” the health issues. Pike said he was glad Pat would have time to take care of himself (that could mean anything). Schiano wished him the best with health and family. That’s not acknowledging an issue/problem either. As I said - folks send generic wishes for good health in holiday cards all the time.
And none of them discussed anything about Hobbs being ok or overcoming anything. Go play the TKR video on Toure or Schiano’s presser announcing it. Or find an old clip when Dickie V announced he had cancer and stepped away. The difference is obvious.
I’m not buying into any speculative rumor on what actually did happen but it seems pretty obvious that Pat did not leave the university on good terms.
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But maybe as rutgers fans we should just leave well enough alone?
If something comes out it comes out
But why, as rutgers fans, would we want to potentially increase that chance by putting these rumors out there and continuing to discuss them?
Makes no sense to me if one truly has the best interest of the university and its athletic dept at heart.
Holloway certainly wished him well in the first sentence of his release.
Everyone on this thread is so severely overthinking this.
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