My goodness ,you actually believe that Halloway did not indicate his well wishes to Hobbs (or was insincere) when he wished him the best as he prioritized his health issues?
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Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
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You keep referring to this as a time bomb. Not sure why all the hand wringing. What exactly do you think will happen as the worst case scenario cause I'm not seeing a problem here? He either left on his own for personal reasons....or.....RU asked him to leave due to something like improper behavior/actions.
Logic would dictate that there is more to the story. However I don't really understand some people's obsession with needing or demanding to know all the facts immediately.
is Pat and Jimbo an "item" now ???????????????
as for rumor of retirement not being health related proved a fact
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Both are apparently happily married… but being Ireland simotaneously sounds fishy…is Pat and Jimbo an "item" now ???????????????
as for rumor being validated
Posts that discuss his contributions to the school in his job of AD are fine. Posts that wish him well are fine.
But that's not what the majority of posts in this 20+ page thread are about. Mostly it's pointless speculation and gossip. With more pointless speculation and gossip built on top of the earlier pointless speculation and gossip. There's never a valid justification for that kind of behavior.
His retirement doesn't materially affect the lives of anybody posting in this thread. It's just a bunch of bored people entertaining themselves at Hobb's expense by prying into his private life. He wasn't hired as a priest. He didn't campaign for his job on "family values" or personal virtuousness.
This thread quickly became nothing more than a trial by media. And the man hasn't even been publicly accused of any wrongdoing by anybody with valid standing to do so.
Whatever happened or didn't happen, a new AD will be hired and life will go on for everyone.
Once a day I spend about 2-3 minutes skimming the posts in this thread, just to see if even one scintilla of evidence of an actual scandal - let alone inappropriate behavior - has been posted. We're on Day 6 and the answer remains no.
Perfect summary of this thread
It funny - when I pointed this out earlier I was called a “pearl clutcher” or something to that effect.
Funnny thing is - I think it’s the exact opposite.
To me, those in this thread who keeping speculating, trying to “connect the dots” or read-between-the-lines (or whatever) come across to me like a bunch of gossiping old ladies with nothing better to do. Drink their tea and gossip. While clutching their pearls.
That’s how I see it.
Good
Hopefully, if there is any truth to the rumors, it gets buried in the name of preserving the brand
This is big boy college athletics - it's not about feelings, alleged affairs, or anything else
It's about becoming elite - and winning cures all
A thread titled Hobb’s “abrupt resignation” logically figures to involve mostly discussion around the unusually abrupt circumstances of his departure. At least one would think.
Kind of ironic that since 4:45 PM yesterday there have been 12 new posts all of which focus on complaining about posts that talk about the very thing the title of this thread suggests would be discussed on this thread. I’d guesstimate that more than half of the more recent posts that do the above, were only added in defense of accusations by the complainers that folks are bad fans for having pointed out these things earlier on a thread where such discussion is called for. Regardless - I’m done here until new information comes up. My view has been expressed - if others want to add another handful of posts about what a bad fan I am “or how nuts I am” carry on as you like.
Edit - I’ve tweaked slightly as I may have mixed up which poster name called what - and removed reference to anyone specific as it’s not necessary to my point above. I will keep my promise and not add additional posts absent new info.
Kind of ironic that since 4:45 PM yesterday there have been 12 new posts all of which focus on complaining about posts that talk about the very thing the title of this thread suggests would be discussed on this thread. I’d guesstimate that more than half of the more recent posts that do the above, were only added in defense of accusations by the complainers that folks are bad fans for having pointed out these things earlier on a thread where such discussion is called for. Regardless - I’m done here until new information comes up. My view has been expressed - if others want to add another handful of posts about what a bad fan I am “or how nuts I am” carry on as you like.
Edit - I’ve tweaked slightly as I may have mixed up which poster name called what - and removed reference to anyone specific as it’s not necessary to my point above. I will keep my promise and not add additional posts absent new info.
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You're not a bad fan PSAL
Nobody on this board is a bad fan
We all care, rather deeply, about Rutgers athletics
It means a lot to us, otherwise we wouldn't spend time here
It's not ironic at all. I'm not calling anybody a "bad fan" for engaging in it.
But there is no valid defense. There are only rationalizations attempting to justify gossiping. When I catch myself doing it, which happens sometimes, I stop because it's undeniably crappy behavior. It's just not the sort of person I want to be.
Other people can do what they want but it's never a decent thing to do to anybody. Nobody here would want it done to them.
Interesting take from someone who has over 50 posts in this thread analyzing almost every situational scenario and yet chose to ignore the question of why you refer to this situation as a "time bomb"?
When did I call you a bad fan?? Gossip monger and pseudo detective with incorrect info- yes.
For me, it wouldn't matter if the information about Hobb's private life was accurate. Hobb's private life is still none of our business. It doesn't matter if people think he's a "public figure" or not.
That sort of thing is only ever relevant when certain types of public figures spend lots of their time pointing fingers at others for the same exact bad behavior they've engaged in themselves, such as politicians. Or like priests who've engaged in child abuse.
And even in that awful scenario, it doesn't excuse people endlessly gossiping about it when they aren't in any way materially affected. We really don't need to know all the sordid details of every last scandal the media can dredge up.
Curious- if he in fact left do to a scandalous affair with the Gymnastic's coach- and from reddit and our posters with inside "reddit" information, seem to indicate or have not mentioned it was forced or underage but consensual...has anyone heard of the Gymnastics could taking a leave?
As someone else mentioned- it has been 6 days.
And if it was an affair- you have the Boss who left, the bosses wife and family, someone in Rutgers leadership, The Gymnastics Coach, her family...I am sure tons of rumors on both teams- and nothing has snuck out?
As someone else mentioned- it has been 6 days.
And if it was an affair- you have the Boss who left, the bosses wife and family, someone in Rutgers leadership, The Gymnastics Coach, her family...I am sure tons of rumors on both teams- and nothing has snuck out?
PSAL shouldn't worry about being called a bad fan just like he shouldn't jump for joy after being called a good one.
Positions on issues make for name calling and the same poster calling you out on one issue will be singing your praise on another all according to if one is in agreement or disagreeing.
Didn’t necessarily happen that way. Might have been sexual harassment she reported and not an affair. Accusers are entitled to as much confidentiality as can be accommodated, and of course wouldn’t need to go on leave, wouldn’t be fired, etc.
Different from Mel Tucker. The victim went public herself.
And perhaps Hobbs explains to wife as a misunderstanding he doesnt want to bother fighting (cardiac issues). She believes him and is still all smiles in Ireland.
You like Shelby’s scenario ?
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Shelby says Shelby is a fantastic cat, same thing those who know Shelby also say about Shelby.
That is why I tried to state it as others have tried to paint it- an “affair”
In your scenario- if an employee reported sexual harassment- different story and unless lawyers are already negotiating- it would most likely be public.
I also think Rutgers would find itself more complicit in your case as harassment is so much worse than an affair
Nope. Employer absolutely must protect reporting victim confidentiality to the fullest extent possible. This scenario connects all the dots, even how supposed cardiac issues are involved. PH doesn’t want the stress of fighting this so he just quit.
as time goes by with nothing proving a thing , either way, new scenarios will be brought forward and just as valid as the rumor that hasn't been proved despite 22 pages of testimony.
Do we now what to find another thing to accuse Hobbs of or stick with the reddit rumor
to clarify, the poster who claimed affair didn't learn via reddit, but via personal knowledge. reddit only corroborates, albeit weakly.
Oh no!! This topic is slowly going away? Public relations at its best. Enjoy your retirement Pat!!
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Can I toss a totally unsubstantiated rumor on the dying fire?
It was a volleyball coach - not a gymnastics coach.
According to (brace yourself): a local football coach close to the team, who told my roommate from school who told me on the way to the Avril Lavigne/Simple Plan concert Friday night at PNC Banks Arts Center.
PNC Banks Arts Center is the new Subway.
It was a volleyball coach - not a gymnastics coach.
According to (brace yourself): a local football coach close to the team, who told my roommate from school who told me on the way to the Avril Lavigne/Simple Plan concert Friday night at PNC Banks Arts Center.
PNC Banks Arts Center is the new Subway.
This will shock you, but sometimes people just post what they think is true without regard for (a) whether they want it to be true or (b) what infinitesimal effect their message board post will have on Rutgers athletics.
mildone lectures the board, part 1,045,562. If you're so into minding your own business maybe ignore what other people want to discuss on the message board. It's none of your business!
Almost, but not quite. I'm not lecturing. I'm criticizing crappy behavior.
And it's not "the board", since most forum members have managed to avoid behaving like town gossips. I'm just criticizing those few who are engaging in the crappy behavior.
Those are two entirely different things.
When people post stuff on an internet forum, what they've posted becomes public and is fair game for comments and critique. So it's fair and reasonable for you to critique my critique as you've done about me "lecturing the board"; you just got your facts wrong is all. And it's also fair and reasonable for me to critique people for being gossips and rumor-mongers.
Conversely, Hobbs hasn't ever posted about his private life in this thread, or anywhere else that I'm aware of. Certainly not about his sex life. So it's not fair or reasonable for anybody to judge, comment or critique.
And that's despite all the weak rationalization attempts claiming that being a "public figure" means everybody's entitled to pry into a person's private life. By that flawed logic, since anybody who walks outside their house instantly becomes a public figure, the intimate private details of all our private lives is fair game for people to pry into and discuss. Let's talk about your sex life next, yes?
Not getting caught up in this BS from you lol, the number of words you spend critiquing others' behavior on the message board is insane. Speculate about my sex life all you want.
But that’s just it. I am not interested in your sex life or Hobbs sex life. None of my business.
And if you were paying attention, the number of words posted in this forum where people are criticizing someone or something dwarfs all words posted for other reasons. Why do you think the game threads are so much longer during bad games than good games?
So now you’re criticizing me for doing what you and everybody else does. 🙂
"So now you’re criticizing me for doing what you and everybody else does. 🙂"
Stop insulting the sheep
I love sheep and never insult them. I mean, unless they ask for that specifically. 😉"So now you’re criticizing me for doing what you and everybody else does. 🙂"
Stop insulting the sheep
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