Rutgers New Brunswick students release a 'terrorist-like' message to their school, demanding that the school cut ties with Israel.

[Knight177lb]

Do you not see a problem with pinning Hamas on all Gazans, or the views of some protesters on all?

You don't state facts. Facts would be for example, Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, he's under investigation for:

1. Altering phone records as to when he was informed of the 11/7 attacks
2. Releasing classified documents that endangered the hostages
3. The Israeli Supreme Court has found his actions could literally starve Gaza

Etc. That is off the top of my head. You don't accept the reality. These are findings by Israelis. What is the issue with them?

The past when? I am a millennial. When in my lifetime were there more synagogue attacks in the US than since 2016?

Yes, I am more concerned with America. Soccer hooligans mocking the death of kids in Gaza, ripping down flags, and then attacking a cab then being attacked themselves is all terrible but won't jeopardize my life like a synagogue shooting would, nor do posters in Rochester, nor the lives of Jewish Americans.

I would say in your case- you admit you are not Jewish or Israeli but are hyper focused on organizations, that, by your own admission, have never launched an attack on US soil, while saying "the Arabs" this and that...yeah...sounds extremely Islamophobic. I'm someone that is a dual citizen, and yet, living here in the US, I am most frightened by, in my view what should be unsurprising- deadly attacks on the US. Of course, I condemn deadly violence wherever it is, but I am most concerned about this country. Why should any American not lead off with that? And it's not like Pittsburgh was exactly a one off, it it was part of a pattern of deadly terrorism brought by believers in the anti-Semitic Great Replacement Theory. Being unconcerned and dismissive of that while trying to lump millions of people, including Jewish Americans, in with terrorist groups on the other side of the world is at best odd. And, you would be quite unhappy if the entire right was lumped in with the Pittsburgh attacker or Jan 6 attackers wearing "Camp Auschwitz" gear, I am quite sure.

Every time I point out racist attacks against Jews, I need to mention Pittsburgh. Got it.

Everyone of your posts keeps bringing up Pittsburgh. I am aware of it, and I have said several times how evil the perpetrator is as well as anyone who sympathizes with him. Somehow, I can't also call racist attacks against Jews in Rochester or Amsterdam (and now Berlin) evil because I didn't say the word Pittsburgh. Racist attacks are evil against any race anywhere.

I have been pretty clear about my criticisms of Hamas and their followers. I have never said that Arabs are evil. That would be racist. Hamas is evil. That is the truth and it's not racist. Stop making things up.

Just because someone came up with a conspiracy theory and wrote it in an article you read, doesn't make it true. I wonder why I've never seen it in the news. In any case, please explain how the whole thing goes. Why did Netanyahu carry out the Oct. 7th attacks to kill 1200 of his own people and turn the whole world against him? How does that work?

When I say the past, I'm talking about the 1920's when the KKK was infested all over the country.

While Hamas has never directly attacked the US, they inspire people everywhere including Rochester which is in the US and there have been other attacks here as well. It's not just a Europe thing. All these protests waving Hamas flags and chanting "We will honor all of our martyrs" are just spreading lies and encouraging violence. I would think that you would be against that.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Every time I point out racist attacks against Jews, I need to mention Pittsburgh. Got it.

Everyone of your posts keeps bringing up Pittsburgh. I am aware of it, and I have said several times how evil the perpetrator is as well as anyone who sympathizes with him. Somehow, I can't also call racist attacks against Jews in Rochester or Amsterdam (and now Berlin) evil because I didn't say the word Pittsburgh. Racist attacks are evil against any race anywhere.

I have been pretty clear about my criticisms of Hamas and their followers. I have never said that Arabs are evil. That would be racist. Hamas is evil. That is the truth and it's not racist. Stop making things up.

Just because someone came up with a conspiracy theory and wrote it in an article you read, doesn't make it true. I wonder why I've never seen it in the news. In any case, please explain how the whole thing goes. Why did Netanyahu carry out the Oct. 7th attacks to kill 1200 of his own people and turn the whole world against him? How does that work?

When I say the past, I'm talking about the 1920's when the KKK was infested all over the country.

While Hamas has never directly attacked the US, they inspire people everywhere including Rochester which is in the US and there have been other attacks here as well. It's not just a Europe thing. All these protests waving Hamas flags and chanting "We will honor all of our martyrs" are just spreading lies and encouraging violence. I would think that you would be against that.

Do you not think it's odd for an American to ignore incidents of violence in this country, but be hyperfocused on places to which they have no connection? I'm a citizen of an EU country. I'm more worried about Pittsburgh than soccer hooligans.

You have used language like "the Arabs" many times. Do I need to quote the posts?

Are you saying that mainstream Israeli newspapers are engaged in an anti-Israel conspiracy? Should I post the links again? As you have admitted, you read mostly right wing sources. Not all Israeli media is right wing. Either explain how Israeli media is working for Hamas and part of a conspiracy theory, or just admit you're making it up.

Netanyahu's Chief of Staff suspected of altering PM's call logs from morning of Oct. 7

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www.haaretz.com

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pms-aides-said-suspected-of-blackmailing-idf-officer-to-alter-records-from-oct-7/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-netanyahu-advisor-urich-questioned-for-second-time-in-document-leak-case/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

OK. How about 2018? Is that too long ago?

Hamas is inspiring people? OK. Where is the protest at Rochester waving Hamas flags?

Inspiration seems more like...the Pittsburgh shooter promoting the Great Replacement and politicians doing it. You know...the same polticians you refuse to condemn?

 

[Knight177lb]

Do you not think it's odd for an American to ignore incidents of violence in this country, but be hyperfocused on places to which they have no connection? I'm a citizen of an EU country. I'm more worried about Pittsburgh than soccer hooligans.

You have used language like "the Arabs" many times. Do I need to quote the posts?

Are you saying that mainstream Israeli newspapers are engaged in an anti-Israel conspiracy? Should I post the links again? As you have admitted, you read mostly right wing sources. Not all Israeli media is right wing. Either explain how Israeli media is working for Hamas and part of a conspiracy theory, or just admit you're making it up.

Netanyahu's Chief of Staff suspected of altering PM's call logs from morning of Oct. 7

***

www.haaretz.com

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pms-aides-said-suspected-of-blackmailing-idf-officer-to-alter-records-from-oct-7/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-netanyahu-advisor-urich-questioned-for-second-time-in-document-leak-case/

http://ped-up-hamas-nowhttps://www....ars-netanyahu-prop-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

OK. How about 2018? Is that too long ago?

Hamas is inspiring people? OK. Where is the protest at Rochester waving Hamas flags?

Inspiration seems more like...the Pittsburgh shooter promoting the Great Replacement and politicians doing it. You know...the same polticians you refuse to condemn?

Who's ignoring Pittsburgh? It was an evil act. Hamas is still evil. Your whataboutism logic doesn't work. Just because Pittsburgh happened, doesn't mean that Hamas should be allowed to carry out their goal of killing every Jew in Israel which is about 8 million people.

Whites owned slaves. Does that mean all whites owned slaves? No. Am I racist for saying that? I think I've been very clear that the real enemy is Hamas. I know the left's strategy is to call anyone defending Israel racist, but your logic doesn't work again. I'm not racist for calling Hamas evil.

I'm just saying that Hamas was going to attack no matter who's PM. Doesn't matter who it is or what they do, but let's say you were the PM of Israel prior to 10/7 and you had the ability to cut off all funds going to Gaza (which is Hamas since they control everything). Would you cut off all funds?

For a moment, imagine if everything going on in Rochester and Amsterdam were targeting another race like Asians or Blacks just on the basis of their race? Would you care?

Spreading lies or repeating the false narrative breeds hate and hate breeds violence.

I believe that any politician promoting the Great Replacement theory is evil. I never refused to condemn anyone who believes in that horse shit.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Who's ignoring Pittsburgh? It was an evil act. Hamas is still evil. Your whataboutism logic doesn't work. Just because Pittsburgh happened, doesn't mean that Hamas should be allowed to carry out their goal of killing every Jew in Israel which is about 8 million people.

Whites owned slaves. Does that mean all whites owned slaves? No. Am I racist for saying that? I think I've been very clear that the real enemy is Hamas. I know the left's strategy is to call anyone defending Israel racist, but your logic doesn't work again. I'm not racist for calling Hamas evil.

I'm just saying that Hamas was going to attack no matter who's PM. Doesn't matter who it is or what they do, but let's say you were the PM of Israel prior to 10/7 and you had the ability to cut off all funds going to Gaza (which is Hamas since they control everything). Would you cut off all funds?

For a moment, imagine if everything going on in Rochester and Amsterdam were targeting another race like Asians or Blacks just on the basis of their race? Would you care?

Spreading lies or repeating the false narrative breeds hate and hate breeds violence.

I believe that any politician promoting the Great Replacement theory is evil. I never refused to condemn anyone who believes in that horse shit.

Who is saying Hamas is allowed anything? Condemning erasing 10/7 phone records or bombing aid convoys somehow exculpates Hamas? No, it's just you want Israel to be above criticism. Just say that.

I didn't say you were racist. Islam isn't a race. Arab isn't a race.

You like arguing with yourself, because wrestling with the facts, as provided by Israeli media, voids the "Israel is above criticism" narrative. Netanyahu's aide was just indicted for releasing classified documents endangering the hostages. Any comment on that? You can't blame Hamas or the media. This is Israeli Jews indicting Israeli Jews for something you claim isn't happening.

I would not have funded Hamas to make the PA look bad, no. And every other non-current Israeli PM agrees.

Amsterdam and Rochester. But not Columbus, huh? Swastikas marching through the streets last week. No comment. But soccer hooligans- oh that's a comment. And then you wonder why anyone can draw a bigoted narrative from your commentary?

Could it because what is happening in Columbus jives with your political narrative...but the facts in Amsterdam deal with a bunch of idiotic soccer fans and idiot cab drivers being spun into something you prefer?

Hate to break it to you as to Rochester, but given your goal and the goal of those folks aligned a few weeks ago, college protests on this issue are probably done. So it will need to be a new narrative. One with distance from Columbus. Good luck! Not to mention, the Israeli media and Israeli judiciary are much less cowed in the face of fascism than ours, which is bad news for those that want to hold the Israeli gov above criticism. The indictments will keep rolling over there and they will be covered.

 

[Knight177lb]

Who is saying Hamas is allowed anything? Condemning erasing 10/7 phone records or bombing aid convoys somehow exculpates Hamas? No, it's just you want Israel to be above criticism. Just say that.

I didn't say you were racist. Islam isn't a race. Arab isn't a race.

You like arguing with yourself, because wrestling with the facts, as provided by Israeli media, voids the "Israel is above criticism" narrative. Netanyahu's aide was just indicted for releasing classified documents endangering the hostages. Any comment on that? You can't blame Hamas or the media. This is Israeli Jews indicting Israeli Jews for something you claim isn't happening.

I would not have funded Hamas to make the PA look bad, no. And every other non-current Israeli PM agrees.

Amsterdam and Rochester. But not Columbus, huh? Swastikas marching through the streets last week. No comment. But soccer hooligans- oh that's a comment. And then you wonder why anyone can draw a bigoted narrative from your commentary?

Could it because what is happening in Columbus jives with your political narrative...but the facts in Amsterdam deal with a bunch of idiotic soccer fans and idiot cab drivers being spun into something you prefer?

Hate to break it to you as to Rochester, but given your goal and the goal of those folks aligned a few weeks ago, college protests on this issue are probably done. So it will need to be a new narrative. One with distance from Columbus. Good luck! Not to mention, the Israeli media and Israeli judiciary are much less cowed in the face of fascism than ours, which is bad news for those that want to hold the Israeli gov above criticism. The indictments will keep rolling over there and they will be covered.

Noe-Nazis marching in Columbus is evil. I hadn't heard about it yet when I replied. Yes, there is racism all over and it's all evil. By the way, the neo-Nazis hate Jews as well. They view Jews not only lower than all other races, but as not even human at all. Did you think I was a fan just because I didn't comment on them? Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran also share the same opinion as Neo-Nazi's. This goes all the way back to the leader of the Arabs, Muhammad Hajj Amin Husseini, who collaborated with Hitler in the early 40's to murder all the Jews in Israel on an industrial scale like the Nazis were doing.

So you wouldn't have funded Hamas if you were PM of Israel? This would mean cutting off all funding going into Gaza. How would they eat? How would they live? Now you're accused of genocide. What's your next move?

I don't have a political narrative. I just think racism is evil. All of it. I never blew off what's happening in Columbus. You on the other hand, are going to great lengths to try and convince everyone that Amsterdam is just some silly soccer fans. This is how it all starts, by spreading lies about Jews. All these protests are spreading the lie that Jews are committing genocide. People start using violence against Jews and everyone looks away because after all, they have all the money and probably deserve it anyway.

College protests are far from being over. They'll keep going on spreading lies.

Netanyahu is not above criticism and I never said he's perfect. He has many critics in Israel. You're trying to make the point that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It doesn't make any sense.

Hamas is trying to kill all Jews. They make that very clear. Israel just simply wants to exist. Hamas demands that Israel immediately stop fighting and let them kill everyone. Do you expect Israel to meet their demands?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Noe-Nazis marching in Columbus is evil. I hadn't heard about it yet when I replied. Yes, there is racism all over and it's all evil. By the way, the neo-Nazis hate Jews as well. They view Jews not only lower than all other races, but as not even human at all. Did you think I was a fan just because I didn't comment on them? Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran also share the same opinion as Neo-Nazi's. This goes all the way back to the leader of the Arabs, Muhammad Hajj Amin Husseini, who collaborated with Hitler in the early 40's to murder all the Jews in Israel on an industrial scale like the Nazis were doing.

So you wouldn't have funded Hamas if you were PM of Israel? This would mean cutting off all funding going into Gaza. How would they eat? How would they live? Now you're accused of genocide. What's your next move?

I don't have a political narrative. I just think racism is evil. All of it. I never blew off what's happening in Columbus. You on the other hand, are going to great lengths to try and convince everyone that Amsterdam is just some silly soccer fans. This is how it all starts, by spreading lies about Jews. All these protests are spreading the lie that Jews are committing genocide. People start using violence against Jews and everyone looks away because after all, they have all the money and probably deserve it anyway.

College protests are far from being over. They'll keep going on spreading lies.

Netanyahu is not above criticism and I never said he's perfect. He has many critics in Israel. You're trying to make the point that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It doesn't make any sense.

Hamas is trying to kill all Jews. They make that very clear. Israel just simply wants to exist. Hamas demands that Israel immediately stop fighting and let them kill everyone. Do you expect Israel to meet their demands?

You didn't hear about it because as you mentioned you follow biased news sources. Let's think: why don't they want you to know about Columbus- I have some ideas!

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

How are Jewish protesters accusing all Jews of committing genocide? That fact is always absent from your analysis.

Where are these college protests still happening?

BTW, you know now Netanyahu is trying to shut down Israeli newspapers like Haaretz for reporting on his crimes....where have we seen that?

Israel has negotiated with Hamas over the decades. So I do expect there, whether via negotiation or other tactic, to be more than cursory effort to release the hostages. Releasing classified information to advance political narratives and hurt the hostages deserves condemnation. Surely if it was here people would be furious.

 

[Knight177lb]

You didn't hear about it because as you mentioned you follow biased news sources. Let's think: why don't they want you to know about Columbus- I have some ideas!

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

How are Jewish protesters accusing all Jews of committing genocide? That fact is always absent from your analysis.

Where are these college protests still happening?

BTW, you know now Netanyahu is trying to shut down Israeli newspapers like Haaretz for reporting on his crimes....where have we seen that?

Israel has negotiated with Hamas over the decades. So I do expect there, whether via negotiation or other tactic, to be more than cursory effort to release the hostages. Releasing classified information to advance political narratives and hurt the hostages deserves condemnation. Surely if it was here people would be furious.

When did I ever tell you about a biased news sources that I listen to you? I told you before that I have the news feed in my MSN browser home page and I watch the CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnel. Are these news sources biased?

First of all, there are no settlers in Gaza. Second, the leaders of every Arab nation wants the same thing that Hamas does, the death of all Jews in Israel. That would be impossible to work with. What's your next move?

I've told you before, there are Jews here in America, saying there is genocide because they don't know the truth. I was someone who also didn't know the truth until I did some research on my own.

There were just hundreds of protests on October 7th to celebrate the death of Jews and protests continue. There are too many links to post all of them.
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/jud...mpus-during-oct-7-anniversary#google_vignette

https://www.claremontindependent.co...n-one-year-anniversary-of-october-7th-attacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/11/10/pro-hamas-protesters-college-campuses/

Releasing the prisoners would be a great start towards peace. I'll believe it when I see it, but Hamas could have done this a long time ago. They also could have never attacked in the first place. The problem is that they don't want peace and would like more Palestinians to get killed.

 

[NotInRHouse]

When did I ever tell you about a biased news sources that I listen to you? I told you before that I have the news feed in my MSN browser home page and I watch the CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnel. Are these news sources biased?

First of all, there are no settlers in Gaza. Second, the leaders of every Arab nation wants the same thing that Hamas does, the death of all Jews in Israel. That would be impossible to work with. What's your next move?

I've told you before, there are Jews here in America, saying there is genocide because they don't know the truth. I was someone who also didn't know the truth until I did some research on my own.

There were just hundreds of protests on October 7th to celebrate the death of Jews and protests continue. There are too many links to post all of them.
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/jud...mpus-during-oct-7-anniversary#google_vignette

https://www.claremontindependent.co...n-one-year-anniversary-of-october-7th-attacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/11/10/pro-hamas-protesters-college-campuses/

Releasing the prisoners would be a great start towards peace. I'll believe it when I see it, but Hamas could have done this a long time ago. They also could have never attacked in the first place. The problem is that they don't want peace and would like more Palestinians to get killed.

A news aggregator like MSN feeds what you click- that is what it designed for.

Every Arab leader wants Israel ruined...but yet several signed peace eals?

So you know better than Jewish Americans about their existence?

You realize Netanyahu (as per Israeli media and courts) jeopardized the hostage release?

 

[NealPageNJ]

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

Westerner (Tik tok) dream here. Just because a group of people have the same skin color doesn’t mean they will get along. Long standing tribal fueds continue except when the opportunity to kill Jews arrives. Jordan has already kicked out the modern day Palestinians. If Jordan were to take the West Bank they would immediately rid the area of Palestinians. “Remove the settlers.” Yes that happened in Gaza in 2005 and here we are. Saudi’s Arabia wants nothing to do with this issue. They along with Egypt have no interest intervening or taking in the people of the region. The modern day Palestinian is the orphan of the Arab nations. The former day Palestinians, before Arafat, are long gone. Some forced out to other countries. Many sold their land (made lots of money) and relocated to places like UAE, KSA, USA, Canada and are living rather comfortable lives generations in. The modern day Palestinians ultimately chooses to stay and fight Israel and kill Jews. Choose may be an incorrect term as decades of terrorism has caused the modern day Palestinians to become rather unwelcomed in surrounding nations, this also orphaning them where they are.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Westerner (Tik tok) dream here. Just because a group of people have the same skin color doesn’t mean they will get along. Long standing tribal fueds continue except when the opportunity to kill Jews arrives. Jordan has already kicked out the modern day Palestinians. If Jordan were to take the West Bank they would immediately rid the area of Palestinians. “Remove the settlers.” Yes that happened in Gaza in 2005 and here we are. Saudi’s Arabia wants nothing to do with this issue. They along with Egypt have no interest intervening or taking in the people of the region. The modern day Palestinian is the orphan of the Arab nations. The former day Palestinians, before Arafat, are long gone. Some forced out to other countries. Many sold their land (made lots of money) and relocated to places like UAE, KSA, USA, Canada and are living rather comfortable lives generations in. The modern day Palestinians ultimately chooses to stay and fight Israel and kill Jews. Choose may be an incorrect term as decades of terrorism has caused the modern day Palestinians to become rather unwelcomed in surrounding nations, this also orphaning them where they are.

Again, you accuse "the modern day Palestinian people" of murder and bigotry. You just can't help yourself. If someone accused "modern day Jewish people" of anything you would be justifiably outraged, unless of course, it was accusing them of causing an election loss, which is totally fine! Or falsely accusing "liberal Jews" of organizing violence, in which case you get an ambassadorship.

There is a big difference in what you have stated, that the Palestinian people should just be kicked out and sent to other countries (again, which you inveigh against when it's suggested Israeli people leave, which I agree they shouldn't as much as they are increasingly packing up given their horrific government on their own) versus an Arab country governing their territory. The Saudis are very eager to show they are abandoning their bonesaw and stoning past, even if it isn't 100% true, and have said they are willing to recognize Israel in exchange for a security agreement with the US, which both parties here have expressed interest in. That could include the Saudis guaranteeing Palestinian security, and would be a win for everyone.

Glad you finally realized "here we are" after the settlements- as the report commissioned by the hostage families indicates, the far right lunatic Israeli gov's focus on the settlements and protecting settlers, who by the way, 15% alone have American citizenship, led to the tragedy of 10/7, among Netanyahu's funding, illegal leaks to hurt the hostages, altered phone records and other assorted crimes to speak only of the domestic ones.

Hopefully the Israelis get to have a free and fair election and get a real leader not beholden to settler terrorists who will sit down and negotiate with the Saudis and Western parties in good faith and get it done.

 

[NealPageNJ]

Again, you accuse "the modern day Palestinian people" of murder and bigotry. You just can't help yourself. If someone accused "modern day Jewish people" of anything you would be justifiably outraged, unless of course, it was accusing them of causing an election loss, which is totally fine! Or falsely accusing "liberal Jews" of organizing violence, in which case you get an ambassadorship.

There is a big difference in what you have stated, that the Palestinian people should just be kicked out and sent to other countries (again, which you inveigh against when it's suggested Israeli people leave, which I agree they shouldn't as much as they are increasingly packing up given their horrific government on their own) versus an Arab country governing their territory. The Saudis are very eager to show they are abandoning their bonesaw and stoning past, even if it isn't 100% true, and have said they are willing to recognize Israel in exchange for a security agreement with the US, which both parties here have expressed interest in. That could include the Saudis guaranteeing Palestinian security, and would be a win for everyone.

Glad you finally realized "here we are" after the settlements- as the report commissioned by the hostage families indicates, the far right lunatic Israeli gov's focus on the settlements and protecting settlers, who by the way, 15% alone have American citizenship, led to the tragedy of 10/7, among Netanyahu's funding, illegal leaks to hurt the hostages, altered phone records and other assorted crimes to speak only of the domestic ones.

Hopefully the Israelis get to have a free and fair election and get a real leader not beholden to settler terrorists who will sit down and negotiate with the Saudis and Western parties in good faith and get it done.

Lots of false assumptions and gibberish here. As usual plenty short on facts.

Can we go back to this plan you have proposed. Which Arab nations are waiting patiently to administer Gaza and the West Bank? Who are the Arab nations who can’t wait to be a part of this conglomerate? Then I’d love to know which of the Arab tribal factions throughout Gaza, Lebanon, and West Bank are looking forward to being administered upon by these foreign nations……..and all in a peaceful manner.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Lots of false assumptions and gibberish here. As usual plenty short on facts.

Can we go back to this plan you have proposed. Which Arab nations are waiting patiently to administer Gaza and the West Bank? Who are the Arab nations who can’t wait to be a part of this conglomerate? Then I’d love to know which of the Arab tribal factions throughout Gaza, Lebanon, and West Bank are looking forward to being administered upon by these foreign nations……..and all in a peaceful manner.

Let's start with why it's OK to call "the modern day Palestinian people" responsible for "killing Jews". What would be your reaction to flipping Palestinians and Jews in that sentence? You'd be screaming. Of course, both would be horrible, but you're only mad at one showing what a hypocrite you are.

You realize Saudis already agreed in principle to what I have outlined, subject to a security agreement with the US and Israeli agreement, right? Both parties in the US are on board with it, so of course you know who has refused...ah yes, the indictee, and can't even blame the one that lives in a country club on this one...

 

[NealPageNJ]

Let's start with why it's OK to call "the modern day Palestinian people" responsible for "killing Jews". What would be your reaction to flipping Palestinians and Jews in that sentence? You'd be screaming. Of course, both would be horrible, but you're only mad at one showing what a hypocrite you are.

You realize Saudis already agreed in principle to what I have outlined, subject to a security agreement with the US and Israeli agreement, right? Both parties in the US are on board with it, so of course you know who has refused...ah yes, the indictee, and can't even blame the one that lives in a country club on this one...

Please go on with this plan to bring peace that you have and nobody else in history has solved. Saudi Arabia has already agreed to administer Gaza? The West Bank? Both? Or have they agreed to lead the Arab conglomerate you speak of? And which group in these areas agreed? Hamas? Islamic Jihaad? Hezbollah? Palestinian Authority’s? All of them? Tell us a little more please.

 

[Knight177lb]

A news aggregator like MSN feeds what you click- that is what it designed for.

Every Arab leader wants Israel ruined...but yet several signed peace eals?

So you know better than Jewish Americans about their existence?

You realize Netanyahu (as per Israeli media and courts) jeopardized the hostage release?

My MSN feeds me everything, both left and right. I guess I'm reading both sides of the story.

What Arab leader signed a peace deal? I think Yasser Arafat might have, but never really meant it and started having Jews slaughtered anyway.

I know that anyone supporting anti-Israel protests doesn't know the whole truth. Doesn't matter what race they are.

Getting the hostages released is very difficult. There's going to be lots of disagreement on what the best way to do it is. Dealing with a terrorist group whose loftiest goal is to kill all Jews isn't easy.

 

[NotInRHouse]

My MSN feeds me everything, both left and right. I guess I'm reading both sides of the story.

What Arab leader signed a peace deal? I think Yasser Arafat might have, but never really meant it and started having Jews slaughtered anyway.

I know that anyone supporting anti-Israel protests doesn't know the whole truth. Doesn't matter what race they are.

Getting the hostages released is very difficult. There's going to be lots of disagreement on what the best way to do it is. Dealing with a terrorist group whose loftiest goal is to kill all Jews isn't easy.

It is neglecting Israeli media apparently.

Leaders of Jordan and EGypt. UAE, Morocco and Bahrain established relations. I have been to Egypt and Morocco, and Jewish history features prominently at tourist sites in both.

Again, the question is, are Jewish Americans calling for their own destruction by simply protesting Israel? How about Jewish Americans who support the 1A?

Does the Israeli court system misunderstand the hostage situation?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Please go on with this plan to bring peace that you have and nobody else in history has solved. Saudi Arabia has already agreed to administer Gaza? The West Bank? Both? Or have they agreed to lead the Arab conglomerate you speak of? And which group in these areas agreed? Hamas? Islamic Jihaad? Hezbollah? Palestinian Authority’s? All of them? Tell us a little more please.

Sure. I have the link to the article.

I'll share it as soon as you can explain how "the modern day Palestinian people" are collectively responsible for "killing Jews."

And then explain how it would be acceptable to flip Jews and Palestinians in your remark and not be bigoted.

 

[Knight177lb]

It is neglecting Israeli media apparently.

Leaders of Jordan and EGypt. UAE, Morocco and Bahrain established relations. I have been to Egypt and Morocco, and Jewish history features prominently at tourist sites in both.

Again, the question is, are Jewish Americans calling for their own destruction by simply protesting Israel? How about Jewish Americans who support the 1A?

Does the Israeli court system misunderstand the hostage situation?

No, I see Israel media. Some of it is critical of Netanyahu and some of it isn't. Once again, you're saying that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It makes no sense.

Egypt has had a peace treaty with Israel since 1979. Egypt doesn't attack Israel and Israel doesn't attack Egypt. It works great and peace can be achieved, but Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want that. They wany all Jews dead.

There are many Jews protesting against Israel that don't know the whole truth. Many are like Bernie Sanders. They believe that Israel has a right to exist, but they are unaware that the goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran is to kill every last Jew. They are unaware that a two-state solution has been offered five times and turned down by the Palestinian leadership each time. They are unaware that Hamas will not stop killing Jews until there are none left. There are many Palestinians that have escaped Hamas and are hiding out in America telling the truth about Hamas. You should listen to them. I know the official stance of the left is to hate Israel, but you don't have to go along with their playbook. You don't have to try and freeze the kicker. Use logic instead and win the game. You can still be a good liberal, but do some research and find out the whole truth.

 

[NotInRHouse]

No, I see Israel media. Some of it is critical of Netanyahu and some of it isn't. Once again, you're saying that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It makes no sense.

Egypt has had a peace treaty with Israel since 1979. Egypt doesn't attack Israel and Israel doesn't attack Egypt. It works great and peace can be achieved, but Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want that. They wany all Jews dead.

There are many Jews protesting against Israel that don't know the whole truth. Many are like Bernie Sanders. They believe that Israel has a right to exist, but they are unaware that the goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran is to kill every last Jew. They are unaware that a two-state solution has been offered five times and turned down by the Palestinian leadership each time. They are unaware that Hamas will not stop killing Jews until there are none left. There are many Palestinians that have escaped Hamas and are hiding out in America telling the truth about Hamas. You should listen to them. I know the official stance of the left is to hate Israel, but you don't have to go along with their playbook. You don't have to try and freeze the kicker. Use logic instead and win the game. You can still be a good liberal, but do some research and find out the whole truth.

Having a critical media doesn't mean the country is a democracy. Even Russia has some critical media.

There is nothing "liberal" or "the left" about respecting the judgment of Israelis or American Jews. You want to replace the judgment of yourself, a non-Jewish American, for that of someone like Bernie, a Jewish American who lived in Israel. I would say that is absurd. It used to be conservatism meant sticking up for the First Amendment and respecting the judgment of others. What happened?

 

[Knight177lb]

Putin does not have critical media within Russia. Anyone who spoke out against him and remained in Russia is dead. he even killed some outside of Russia.

How about respecting the judgement of Muslims like Hassan Yousef or Raheem Kassan or one of the many others who have escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas for what it really is, an organization that will not stop killing Jews until there are none left?

I think Bernie and you might be delusional. You think that Israel is allowed to defend itself, but only gently. That's not going to work though. Hamas is very clear about their ambitions to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Yahya Sinwar said "Palestinian deaths are a necessary sacrifice". Can you imagine what the world would say if Netanyahu said that? I just think you and Bernie aren't listening to Hamas and don't realize they're using innocent children as shields.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Putin does not have critical media within Russia. Anyone who spoke out against him and remained in Russia is dead. he even killed some outside of Russia.

How about respecting the judgement of Muslims like Hassan Yousef or Raheem Kassan or one of the many others who have escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas for what it really is, an organization that will not stop killing Jews until there are none left?

I think Bernie and you might be delusional. You think that Israel is allowed to defend itself, but only gently. That's not going to work though. Hamas is very clear about their ambitions to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Yahya Sinwar said "Palestinian deaths are a necessary sacrifice". Can you imagine what the world would say if Netanyahu said that? I just think you and Bernie aren't listening to Hamas and don't realize they're using innocent children as shields.

There actually is critical media, it's just very small. There is critical media in most countries other than North Korea.

What you see though is gov effort to clamp down- just like Israel is doing with Haaretz.

Haaretz petitions Israel's High Court to reverse Netanyahu government's boycott of paper

***

www.haaretz.com

And he's on trial for trying to bribe media sources.

LOL. Raheem Kassam. Oh this is TOO GOOD.

1) He escaped "Sharia Law"....he was born in London. All the women I saw in mini skirts in bars there...were they unaware of Sharia Law?
2) From his Wikipedia page:

Kassam was born in the Hammersmith Hospital in White City, West London. His parents were Tanzanian Muslim immigrants of Indian origin from Hillingdon.[1] He was raised an Ismaili Shia Muslim but wrote in 2016 that he had not been a practising Muslim for over a decade. Kassam was formerly an atheist,[citation needed] stating that Christopher Hitchens' rejection of religious faith ("religions are versions of the same untruth") inspired him.[9] Kassam was educated at Bishopshalt School, a state comprehensive school in Uxbridge and the independent[10] St Helen's College, Hillingdon, and then studied politics at the University of Westminster.[11]

Kassam briefly worked for the defunct American financial services firm Lehman Brothers before it went bankrupt in 2008.[12]

So...he has never lived in any country but the UK or US. His parents and their ancestors never lived in Palestine, or even a majority Muslim country at all. And he was never a practising Muslim.

Now, you're probably thinking....what kind of an idiot names a non-Palestinian, non-Muslim who never lived in any kind of a Muslim country to advance an argument that he can substitute his non-Jewish views for those of Jews because of (supposed) Muslim views?

But it gets SO much worse for you.

3) Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Just so I understand this, it's only "the left" and Muslims not upholding the rights of women?

Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Being delusional is perhaps the one topic you can speak to.

You're not Jewish, you've never set a toe in the Middle East, Israel or otherwise- but think your judgment is superior to that of a Jewish American who lived on a kibbutz.

Which is the definition of anti-Semitism.

But to top it off, you think your judgment is superior when you cited the judgment of a "Muslim who escaped Hamas" being a right wing pundit who:

- Isn't Muslim
- Never lived in Palestine
- Never lived in a non-Western country

LOL.

Congrats. I have seen some incredible examples of far right brainwashing (light rinsing, really) on this site, but the claim that a non-Muslim, British-born of Indian and Tanzanian heritage, racist, misogynist, right wing pundit of zero Palestinian heritage "escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas" is...*chef's kiss*. Top 5 example, and have bookmarked this so you forever get the credit.

And this was in the same post claiming why your judgment on Israel is better than a Jewish American who lived there ROFLMAO!!!!

 

[Knight177lb]

There actually is critical media, it's just very small. There is critical media in most countries other than North Korea.

What you see though is gov effort to clamp down- just like Israel is doing with Haaretz.

Haaretz petitions Israel's High Court to reverse Netanyahu government's boycott of paper

***

www.haaretz.com

And he's on trial for trying to bribe media sources.

LOL. Raheem Kassam. Oh this is TOO GOOD.

1) He escaped "Sharia Law"....he was born in London. All the women I saw in mini skirts in bars there...were they unaware of Sharia Law?
2) From his Wikipedia page:

Kassam was born in the Hammersmith Hospital in White City, West London. His parents were Tanzanian Muslim immigrants of Indian origin from Hillingdon.[1] He was raised an Ismaili Shia Muslim but wrote in 2016 that he had not been a practising Muslim for over a decade. Kassam was formerly an atheist,[citation needed] stating that Christopher Hitchens' rejection of religious faith ("religions are versions of the same untruth") inspired him.[9] Kassam was educated at Bishopshalt School, a state comprehensive school in Uxbridge and the independent[10] St Helen's College, Hillingdon, and then studied politics at the University of Westminster.[11]

Kassam briefly worked for the defunct American financial services firm Lehman Brothers before it went bankrupt in 2008.[12]

So...he has never lived in any country but the UK or US. His parents and their ancestors never lived in Palestine, or even a majority Muslim country at all. And he was never a practising Muslim.

Now, you're probably thinking....what kind of an idiot names a non-Palestinian, non-Muslim who never lived in any kind of a Muslim country to advance an argument that he can substitute his non-Jewish views for those of Jews because of (supposed) Muslim views?

But it gets SO much worse for you.

3) Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Just so I understand this, it's only "the left" and Muslims not upholding the rights of women?

Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Being delusional is perhaps the one topic you can speak to.

You're not Jewish, you've never set a toe in the Middle East, Israel or otherwise- but think your judgment is superior to that of a Jewish American who lived on a kibbutz.

Which is the definition of anti-Semitism.

But to top it off, you think your judgment is superior when you cited the judgment of a "Muslim who escaped Hamas" being a right wing pundit who:

- Isn't Muslim
- Never lived in Palestine
- Never lived in a non-Western country

LOL.

Congrats. I have seen some incredible examples of far right brainwashing (light rinsing, really) on this site, but the claim that a non-Muslim, British-born of Indian and Tanzanian heritage, racist, misogynist, right wing pundit of zero Palestinian heritage "escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas" is...*chef's kiss*. Top 5 example, and have bookmarked this so you forever get the credit.

And this was in the same post claiming why your judgment on Israel is better than a Jewish American who lived there ROFLMAO!!!!

Here we go again, just ignore the facts. Your argument is so beautifully crafted. I'm going to sum up everything you've posted so far and how you came to your conclusion.

1. Netanyahu is corrupt.
2. A racist killed Jews in Pittsburg.
3. There's someone somewhere in Russia that is somehow still alive after criticizing Putin.
4. Bernie Sanders is Jewish
5. Out of hundreds of protesters in Israel, they arrested two that were blocking traffic.
6. Xi is a good guy, he provides water to the last remaining Muslims that haven't disappeared yet.

Therefore, it's OK that Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran attempt to kill all the Jews in Israel and the Jews should do nothing and let Hama kill them. It makes perfect sense. So logical.

I have better judgement than you and Bernie on this particular topic. You get all your news from the left and you follow the left's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel has done everything they can to offer peace and they've been met with violence every time.

You spent a great deal of energy on researching Kassam, but I notice you didn't say anything about Hassan Yusef. Why not?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Here we go again, just ignore the facts. Your argument is so beautifully crafted. I'm going to sum up everything you've posted so far and how you came to your conclusion.

1. Netanyahu is corrupt.
2. A racist killed Jews in Pittsburg.
3. There's someone somewhere in Russia that is somehow still alive after criticizing Putin.
4. Bernie Sanders is Jewish
5. Out of hundreds of protesters in Israel, they arrested two that were blocking traffic.
6. Xi is a good guy, he provides water to the last remaining Muslims that haven't disappeared yet.

Therefore, it's OK that Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran attempt to kill all the Jews in Israel and the Jews should do nothing and let Hama kill them. It makes perfect sense. So logical.

I have better judgement than you and Bernie on this particular topic. You get all your news from the left and you follow the left's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel has done everything they can to offer peace and they've been met with violence every time.

You spent a great deal of energy on researching Kassam, but I notice you didn't say anything about Hassan Yusef. Why not?

Are you just going to ignore the fact that you claimed a British propagandist who isn't Muslim nor Palestinian "fled and exposed Hamas"?

And instead rehash things I never said (praising Xi, did you confuse me with you favorite felon?). Nor said "do nothing" about Hamas.

Your contempt for facts is only overcome by your contempt for Jews.

We get it- you don't like Bernie because he's Jewish, and your MSN homepage laden with propaganda won't be disobeyed.

You get all your news from the far right and you follow the far right's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel's government has done everything they can to prevent peace which caused October 7th.

Here's the far right playbook, page by page:

1. Cite a propagandist and claim they proved something they didn't- eg claim a British born person escaped Sharia
2. Blame Jews- "I have better judgment than Jewish Americans who lived in Israel, despite never setting foot there or in any Middle Eastern or Muslim country." And if you ever left North America it'd be a surprise.
3. Claim everything Israel does it above scrutiny because it's keeping them safe, when it obviously doesn't- eg, the indisputable fact Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, released classified info that hurt hostages, killed his own citizens and aid workers, etc


Oh don't worry- I have the material on Yusef. I'm going to share it when you explain how a Tanzanian-British non-Muslim "escaped Sharia law and exposed Hamas".

And speaking of energy- like most of your posts it comes between 12-2AM, and often on the weekend.

Tell everyone what gives you better judgment than Bernie. As you've admitted you're not Jewish and have never been to the Middle East. You obviously have no military or foreign policy background. Do you have a degree from RU, or anywhere, that gives you such license? Seems improbable, and just like everyone on the far right, another victim of the echo chamber that provides a vehicle for hate.

Is late night when the Joe Rogan comes on and you can type what he thinks here?

 

[Knight177lb]

Are you just going to ignore the fact that you claimed a British propagandist who isn't Muslim nor Palestinian "fled and exposed Hamas"?

And instead rehash things I never said (praising Xi, did you confuse me with you favorite felon?). Nor said "do nothing" about Hamas.

Your contempt for facts is only overcome by your contempt for Jews.

We get it- you don't like Bernie because he's Jewish, and your MSN homepage laden with propaganda won't be disobeyed.

You get all your news from the far right and you follow the far right's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel's government has done everything they can to prevent peace which caused October 7th.

Here's the far right playbook, page by page:

1. Cite a propagandist and claim they proved something they didn't- eg claim a British born person escaped Sharia
2. Blame Jews- "I have better judgment than Jewish Americans who lived in Israel, despite never setting foot there or in any Middle Eastern or Muslim country." And if you ever left North America it'd be a surprise.
3. Claim everything Israel does it above scrutiny because it's keeping them safe, when it obviously doesn't- eg, the indisputable fact Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, released classified info that hurt hostages, killed his own citizens and aid workers, etc


Oh don't worry- I have the material on Yusef. I'm going to share it when you explain how a Tanzanian-British non-Muslim "escaped Sharia law and exposed Hamas".

And speaking of energy- like most of your posts it comes between 12-2AM, and often on the weekend.

Tell everyone what gives you better judgment than Bernie. As you've admitted you're not Jewish and have never been to the Middle East. You obviously have no military or foreign policy background. Do you have a degree from RU, or anywhere, that gives you such license? Seems improbable, and just like everyone on the far right, another victim of the echo chamber that provides a vehicle for hate.

Is late night when the Joe Rogan comes on and you can type what he thinks here?

You often go through my posts without fully reading them, so I want to make a few things clear.

I believe the person I cited was born into a Muslim family. It seems that he doesn't share your political views as you've called him a propogandist, so does it really matter what his background is? He's pro-Israel, so he's automatically your enemy. Hirsi Ali is a woman who lived under the brutality of Shari law and escaped. Now she exposes how evil Sharia law is and you get all mad and start in with your "whatabaoutism" logic and point out that she had to tell a lie in order to escape. Therefore, since she's not perfect, it was wrong for her to escape Sharia law and you can't believe anything she says.

I never actually said that I don't like Bernie. I just disagree with him on the topic of Israel. He may have lived in Israel, but for a long time, he's been getting his information from the left and he's been given orders to be pro-Palestinian and he's not going to listen to the Israeli point of view. During the last interview I saw, he said that he believed Israel has a right to exist and that Oct. 7th was a terrible tragedy and that it wasn't justified. So, we agree on this point, but disagree on how Israel is defending itself.

I don't follow the far-right play book. I'm an independent free thinker. I can't ignore the fact Israel has offered peace to the Palestinians five times and it has been rejected each time. That is a fact. Each time they offer peace, the response has been to slaughter as many Jews as possible. That's a fact, but many on the left aren't aware of this. October 7th was not justified. Killing babies and raping women has nothing to do with "struggle".

There are tons of Jewish Americans who are pro-Israel. Jewish Americans are traditionally Democrats, but there are many who have been voting Republican because of the left's stand on being anti-Israel. In this past presidential election, there were many Jews who voted for Harris because she said she supports Israel's right to defend itself. Still, Harris lost some Jewish votes because if Israel. What's really crazy is that Harris lost Palestinian votes because they felt she didn't support them and they voted for Trump. I don't get that at all.

I don't think Israel is above criticism. That's about the 6th or 7th time I've said that. I don't criticize them for defending their very own lives. They have a right to exist. This in direct conflict with the beliefs of Hamas.

Please elaborate on Yusef. Was he less than honest when escaping Hamas and trying not to get assassinated for leaving Islam?

I'm up late at night. These boards are recreation for me. I don't have time to read or post during the day when I'm working or after work when I'm doing things with my family.

Now, as far as my race or religion, I've never told you what I am. Why do you think I'm not Jewish? Go ahead and read every post in this thread. I've never said that I wasn't Jewish. I never said what I was because I think race or ethnicity isn't important, but since it's so important to you, I'll tell you. My mother is 100% Ashkenazi which makes me 50% Ashkenazi. The other half is a mix of Polish, German, and English. As far as religion, I don't follow any.

I do have a degree from Rutgers. I have a bachelors and a masters.

I have never heard a Joe Rogan podcast.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You often go through my posts without fully reading them, so I want to make a few things clear.

I believe the person I cited was born into a Muslim family. It seems that he doesn't share your political views as you've called him a propogandist, so does it really matter what his background is? He's pro-Israel, so he's automatically your enemy. Hirsi Ali is a woman who lived under the brutality of Shari law and escaped. Now she exposes how evil Sharia law is and you get all mad and start in with your "whatabaoutism" logic and point out that she had to tell a lie in order to escape. Therefore, since she's not perfect, it was wrong for her to escape Sharia law and you can't believe anything she says.

I never actually said that I don't like Bernie. I just disagree with him on the topic of Israel. He may have lived in Israel, but for a long time, he's been getting his information from the left and he's been given orders to be pro-Palestinian and he's not going to listen to the Israeli point of view. During the last interview I saw, he said that he believed Israel has a right to exist and that Oct. 7th was a terrible tragedy and that it wasn't justified. So, we agree on this point, but disagree on how Israel is defending itself.

I don't follow the far-right play book. I'm an independent free thinker. I can't ignore the fact Israel has offered peace to the Palestinians five times and it has been rejected each time. That is a fact. Each time they offer peace, the response has been to slaughter as many Jews as possible. That's a fact, but many on the left aren't aware of this. October 7th was not justified. Killing babies and raping women has nothing to do with "struggle".

There are tons of Jewish Americans who are pro-Israel. Jewish Americans are traditionally Democrats, but there are many who have been voting Republican because of the left's stand on being anti-Israel. In this past presidential election, there were many Jews who voted for Harris because she said she supports Israel's right to defend itself. Still, Harris lost some Jewish votes because if Israel. What's really crazy is that Harris lost Palestinian votes because they felt she didn't support them and they voted for Trump. I don't get that at all.

I don't think Israel is above criticism. That's about the 6th or 7th time I've said that. I don't criticize them for defending their very own lives. They have a right to exist. This in direct conflict with the beliefs of Hamas.

Please elaborate on Yusef. Was he less than honest when escaping Hamas and trying not to get assassinated for leaving Islam?

I'm up late at night. These boards are recreation for me. I don't have time to read or post during the day when I'm working or after work when I'm doing things with my family.

Now, as far as my race or religion, I've never told you what I am. Why do you think I'm not Jewish? Go ahead and read every post in this thread. I've never said that I wasn't Jewish. I never said what I was because I think race or ethnicity isn't important, but since it's so important to you, I'll tell you. My mother is 100% Ashkenazi which makes me 50% Ashkenazi. The other half is a mix of Polish, German, and English. As far as religion, I don't follow any.

I do have a degree from Rutgers. I have a bachelors and a masters.

I have never heard a Joe Rogan podcast.

1) You said someone born in Britain to Tanzanian parents who lives in the US fled Sharia and exposed Hamas. That was the claim. On what planet can that be accurate? Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application and now rails against refugees. These people don't know anything about Israel, Palestine or anything besides hucksterism. The question is how a British non Muslim fled Sharia law. You still haven't explained it.

2) Bernie lived in Israel and is a Senator. He gets his info from intelligence reports and Israelis. Are they "the left"?

3) Was there a referendum on the proposals? Of course not. The Palestinians didn't reject anything.

4) Harris had the best results among American Jews in decades according to some exit polls. Jews have fled fascism and don't support it. Thus the turn against Israel among American Jews. Whatever Arab Americans voted for is on them. They'll deal with the consequences like the other 49%. Which, unlike people in Gaza, is fair- most people in Gaza are not old enough to vote and weren't alive the last time they had an election in 2006, of which I think the fairness is questionable in any case.

5) Yusef is a classic Israeli propagandic pinkwash. The far right art of pointing out that they are more benevolent (but in no way good or fair) to LGBT folks than Islamists. Whoopty frikin doo. The "only democracy in the Middle East" wants an award for being better for gays than Hamas. What a prize. Again, the actual comparison is how are gay folks treated in Israel versus other democracies. Let's see- did I miss when the Copenhagen Pride Parade had a stabbing of a young girl by a religious fundamentalist? Who BTW, wasn't Muslim? Let's see, the US, Canada, Australia, Taiwan, most of Western Europe and Latin America have gay marriage. Israel? Of course not- you can't even get married if the rabbinate considers you not to be Jewish. Did you know that? No because your far right media ignores it.

It matters to supplant your judgment because of what you read or hear, which as per your own refusal to address how a British man you cited as Palestinian, is absurd and ignorant. You obviously ingest a lot of propaganda. As per a bombshell piece today, Israel threw its own rules on civilian engagement out, thus more deaths. Israel's Supreme Court says they are starving Gazans. One need not listen to what you incorrectly label the "left". I can read Israel-based sources written only by Israelis living in Israel and see what you're saying is total hogwash (to be generous). You can, and will no doubt argue, that as an American you're more well versed and pro-Israel than an Israeli Supreme Court justice, who you probably would glibly call leftist if not anti-Semitic. And that's why the world is what is it is today. Americans ranting and raving, fact free, late night, name calling, with access to facts that a Gazan or North Korean or Russian or Chinese citizen would kill for. Sad, in so many ways.

 

[NealPageNJ]

1) You said someone born in Britain to Tanzanian parents who lives in the US fled Sharia and exposed Hamas. That was the claim. On what planet can that be accurate? Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application and now rails against refugees. These people don't know anything about Israel, Palestine or anything besides hucksterism. The question is how a British non Muslim fled Sharia law. You still haven't explained it.

2) Bernie lived in Israel and is a Senator. He gets his info from intelligence reports and Israelis. Are they "the left"?

3) Was there a referendum on the proposals? Of course not. The Palestinians didn't reject anything.

4) Harris had the best results among American Jews in decades according to some exit polls. Jews have fled fascism and don't support it. Thus the turn against Israel among American Jews. Whatever Arab Americans voted for is on them. They'll deal with the consequences like the other 49%. Which, unlike people in Gaza, is fair- most people in Gaza are not old enough to vote and weren't alive the last time they had an election in 2006, of which I think the fairness is questionable in any case.

5) Yusef is a classic Israeli propagandic pinkwash. The far right art of pointing out that they are more benevolent (but in no way good or fair) to LGBT folks than Islamists. Whoopty frikin doo. The "only democracy in the Middle East" wants an award for being better for gays than Hamas. What a prize. Again, the actual comparison is how are gay folks treated in Israel versus other democracies. Let's see- did I miss when the Copenhagen Pride Parade had a stabbing of a young girl by a religious fundamentalist? Who BTW, wasn't Muslim? Let's see, the US, Canada, Australia, Taiwan, most of Western Europe and Latin America have gay marriage. Israel? Of course not- you can't even get married if the rabbinate considers you not to be Jewish. Did you know that? No because your far right media ignores it.

It matters to supplant your judgment because of what you read or hear, which as per your own refusal to address how a British man you cited as Palestinian, is absurd and ignorant. You obviously ingest a lot of propaganda. As per a bombshell piece today, Israel threw its own rules on civilian engagement out, thus more deaths. Israel's Supreme Court says they are starving Gazans. One need not listen to what you incorrectly label the "left". I can read Israel-based sources written only by Israelis living in Israel and see what you're saying is total hogwash (to be generous). You can, and will no doubt argue, that as an American you're more well versed and pro-Israel than an Israeli Supreme Court justice, who you probably would glibly call leftist if not anti-Semitic. And that's why the world is what is it is today. Americans ranting and raving, fact free, late night, name calling, with access to facts that a Gazan or North Korean or Russian or Chinese citizen would kill for. Sad, in so many ways.

Happy Hanukkah!!

 

[NotInRHouse]

Happy Hanukkah!!

I thought we're saying Merry Christmas again?

Hard to keep track.

I guess we can ask the proudly Jewish Mexican President, or the proudly Jewish Ukrainian president, how they feel about the threats against their country from the guy who says :"The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."

Apparently we couldn't celebrate the birth of a Jewish socialist yesterday when he was blessing us with his felonious presence or something.

 

[Knight177lb]

1) You said someone born in Britain to Tanzanian parents who lives in the US fled Sharia and exposed Hamas. That was the claim. On what planet can that be accurate? Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application and now rails against refugees. These people don't know anything about Israel, Palestine or anything besides hucksterism. The question is how a British non Muslim fled Sharia law. You still haven't explained it.

2) Bernie lived in Israel and is a Senator. He gets his info from intelligence reports and Israelis. Are they "the left"?

3) Was there a referendum on the proposals? Of course not. The Palestinians didn't reject anything.

4) Harris had the best results among American Jews in decades according to some exit polls. Jews have fled fascism and don't support it. Thus the turn against Israel among American Jews. Whatever Arab Americans voted for is on them. They'll deal with the consequences like the other 49%. Which, unlike people in Gaza, is fair- most people in Gaza are not old enough to vote and weren't alive the last time they had an election in 2006, of which I think the fairness is questionable in any case.

5) Yusef is a classic Israeli propagandic pinkwash. The far right art of pointing out that they are more benevolent (but in no way good or fair) to LGBT folks than Islamists. Whoopty frikin doo. The "only democracy in the Middle East" wants an award for being better for gays than Hamas. What a prize. Again, the actual comparison is how are gay folks treated in Israel versus other democracies. Let's see- did I miss when the Copenhagen Pride Parade had a stabbing of a young girl by a religious fundamentalist? Who BTW, wasn't Muslim? Let's see, the US, Canada, Australia, Taiwan, most of Western Europe and Latin America have gay marriage. Israel? Of course not- you can't even get married if the rabbinate considers you not to be Jewish. Did you know that? No because your far right media ignores it.

It matters to supplant your judgment because of what you read or hear, which as per your own refusal to address how a British man you cited as Palestinian, is absurd and ignorant. You obviously ingest a lot of propaganda. As per a bombshell piece today, Israel threw its own rules on civilian engagement out, thus more deaths. Israel's Supreme Court says they are starving Gazans. One need not listen to what you incorrectly label the "left". I can read Israel-based sources written only by Israelis living in Israel and see what you're saying is total hogwash (to be generous). You can, and will no doubt argue, that as an American you're more well versed and pro-Israel than an Israeli Supreme Court justice, who you probably would glibly call leftist if not anti-Semitic. And that's why the world is what is it is today. Americans ranting and raving, fact free, late night, name calling, with access to facts that a Gazan or North Korean or Russian or Chinese citizen would kill for. Sad, in so many ways.

This is whataboutism at its best. Hirsi Ali had to lie on her refugee application in order to escape the brutality of Sharia Law. You really should hear her story. It's quite incredible what she went through. She risked her life by leaving her husband. I think that in order to escape that life, she has the right to do whatever was necessary for survival. In your view, since she led on her refugee application, it's OK for Hamas to continue their terrorism? Do you think she should be back in her Muslim country living under Sharia Law?

I think you need to listen to what Bernie is saying. He believes that Israel has a right to exist and a right to defend itself. This is the absolute opposite of what Hamas wants.

Israel offered peace five times.
1. 1936 - The Peele Commission suggested a two-state solution. The Palestinians rejected it and continued to slaughter Jews.
2. 1947 - The UN plan to divide the land. The Jews accepted it, the Palestinians rejected it by launching an all out war. It wasn't really a war, it an attempt at genocide by the surrounding countries to kill very last Jew.
3. 1967 - The Arab League Summit met and issued its three rules - No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, and no negotiating with Israel.
4. 2000 - Israeli PM Ehud Barak met with Yasser Arafat. Barak offered a Palestinian State, 94% of The West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem as its capital. Arafat rejected the offer and the PLO launched wave after wave of suicide bombers killing over 1000 civilians and wounding thousands.
5. 2008 - PM Ehud Olmert offered a Palestinian state and even more land. Mahmoud Abbas rejected the offer.

Someone gay was stabbed in Copenhagen, so it's OK for Hamas to kill all gays and Jews? Whataboutism. What is Yusef saying that isn't true? In Gaza, gays can't even live, let alone get married. They're executed by law.

I pointed out to you that many Jews voted for Harris because she said she stands with Israel at the Democratic convention. What did I say was incorrect?

The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that Israel is starving Gazans? I haven't heard about this. Can you provide a link?

Given any of the facts I've given you, what Israeli writer living in Israel is in disagreement?

What Supreme Cout Justice does not believe that Israel has a right to exist?

 

[NotInRHouse]

This is whataboutism at its best. Hirsi Ali had to lie on her refugee application in order to escape the brutality of Sharia Law. You really should hear her story. It's quite incredible what she went through. She risked her life by leaving her husband. I think that in order to escape that life, she has the right to do whatever was necessary for survival. In your view, since she led on her refugee application, it's OK for Hamas to continue their terrorism? Do you think she should be back in her Muslim country living under Sharia Law?

I think you need to listen to what Bernie is saying. He believes that Israel has a right to exist and a right to defend itself. This is the absolute opposite of what Hamas wants.

Israel offered peace five times.
1. 1936 - The Peele Commission suggested a two-state solution. The Palestinians rejected it and continued to slaughter Jews.
2. 1947 - The UN plan to divide the land. The Jews accepted it, the Palestinians rejected it by launching an all out war. It wasn't really a war, it an attempt at genocide by the surrounding countries to kill very last Jew.
3. 1967 - The Arab League Summit met and issued its three rules - No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, and no negotiating with Israel.
4. 2000 - Israeli PM Ehud Barak met with Yasser Arafat. Barak offered a Palestinian State, 94% of The West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem as its capital. Arafat rejected the offer and the PLO launched wave after wave of suicide bombers killing over 1000 civilians and wounding thousands.
5. 2008 - PM Ehud Olmert offered a Palestinian state and even more land. Mahmoud Abbas rejected the offer.

Someone gay was stabbed in Copenhagen, so it's OK for Hamas to kill all gays and Jews? Whataboutism. What is Yusef saying that isn't true? In Gaza, gays can't even live, let alone get married. They're executed by law.

I pointed out to you that many Jews voted for Harris because she said she stands with Israel at the Democratic convention. What did I say was incorrect?

The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that Israel is starving Gazans? I haven't heard about this. Can you provide a link?

Given any of the facts I've given you, what Israeli writer living in Israel is in disagreement?

What Supreme Cout Justice does not believe that Israel has a right to exist?

Not what happened with Hirsi at all. Dutch courts determined something else entirely. Do you want to research it on your own and realize you've (again) been propagandized by people who think they can profit on Islamophobia and lies like your best pal the British non-Muslim who fled Hamas? What does she have to do with Hamas- she's not even Palestinian.

This is where your Islamophobia shines through. You think someone who sounds Muslim on paper now talking crap about Muslims, whether they're a criminal like Hirsi Ali or someone like Kassam who was never Muslim but sounds it and talks about women like Hamas anyway validates Israel's behavior. The two are not connected, aside from the fact that Islamophobes endorse both. And likely rant about it at 3AM on a Saturday.

I agree with Bernie. You're here complaining about him by endorsing a British person who you still don't explain how he "exposed Hamas." When/how was it?

Please provide proof of when the Palestinian people- since you say Palestinians- voted on any proposal. Did the North Koreans vote to starve themselves? Did Russians vote to invade Ukraine? Did China vote to abuse Xinjiang or HK? You would never accuse all Chinese people of being responsible for Tiananmen, but have no issue again blaming all Palestinian people. Even here in the US, did "Americans" do My Lai, or was it a handful of people that did a horrible thing?

You have your whataboutism down like all Islamophobes. Israel killed civilians- but what about a Somali criminal that I heard on a podcast? No Palestinians voted for this sure, but what about a Tanzanian Brit that "fled Sharia" (in London) that I heard from on MSN that reinforces my far right views?

Oh and the Pride Parade stabbing was in Jerusalem. By a Jewish fundamentalist.

Was it not reported on your whataboutist, Islamophobic, MSN feed?

Yishai Schlissel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Harris also criticized Israel. Though to be fair, those who don't rever Raheem Kassam, Hirsi Ali and propagandists do so as a rule.

Here's the Israeli Supreme Court on Israel starving Gazans. As a whataboutist Islamophobe, let's predict your reaction:

1) Ignore it?
2) What about starving in some other country?
3) Here's an Islamophobe from a western country with a Muslim name. What about that?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/high-court-orders-state-to-demonstrate-aid-supply-to-gaza-is-sufficient/

The High Court of Justice issued interim orders against the state over the supply of humanitarian aid to Gaza, in effect placing the burden of proof on the government to demonstrate it’s providing enough humanitarian supplies to the Palestinian population in the war-torn territory to meet its legal obligations.

The state has 10 days to respond, after which the court will likely hold another hearing before making a final ruling.

Following a three-hour hearing on Monday, the High Court issued an interim order instructing the state to explain why it should not allow unfettered access of humanitarian aid, equipment and staff into the Gaza Strip in light of the severe humanitarian situation in the enclave amid the ongoing war started by Hamas’s October 7 attack.

You haven't provided any facts.

Like everyone else on the far right, you've provided:

1) Comments by far right race hustlers (Hirsi Ali, Kassam) out of context and not relating to any fact- eg, saying a British born man fled Sharia law

2) Bigotry (eg "The Palestinians" did x, y z instead of holding a gov responsible, hold an ethnicity

3) Accuse any source- even though I've used mostly Israeli and Jewish ones- of anti semitism

4) Substitute your own questionable judgment for people who lived in Israel

5) Pinkwash, while ignoring the reality that minorities in Israel have less rights than normal democracies (BUT THEY HAVE MORE THAN IRAN!! AND HAMAS!!! TALK ABOUT THAT!!! am I right?) Imagine if in 1964 the US said segregation was fine because minorities had it better than North Koreans. This is the sickening argument.

6) Ignore reality- eg the report this week that Israel knowingly ignored its own laws on civil engagement leading to countless deaths, including of Israelis, aid workers and others- because I know the dead Palestinian children don't upset you.

And...at 3AM. SMH.

 

[NealPageNJ]

Not what happened with Hirsi at all. Dutch courts determined something else entirely. Do you want to research it on your own and realize you've (again) been propagandized by people who think they can profit on Islamophobia and lies like your best pal the British non-Muslim who fled Hamas? What does she have to do with Hamas- she's not even Palestinian.

This is where your Islamophobia shines through. You think someone who sounds Muslim on paper now talking crap about Muslims, whether they're a criminal like Hirsi Ali or someone like Kassam who was never Muslim but sounds it and talks about women like Hamas anyway validates Israel's behavior. The two are not connected, aside from the fact that Islamophobes endorse both. And likely rant about it at 3AM on a Saturday.

I agree with Bernie. You're here complaining about him by endorsing a British person who you still don't explain how he "exposed Hamas." When/how was it?

Please provide proof of when the Palestinian people- since you say Palestinians- voted on any proposal. Did the North Koreans vote to starve themselves? Did Russians vote to invade Ukraine? Did China vote to abuse Xinjiang or HK? You would never accuse all Chinese people of being responsible for Tiananmen, but have no issue again blaming all Palestinian people. Even here in the US, did "Americans" do My Lai, or was it a handful of people that did a horrible thing?

You have your whataboutism down like all Islamophobes. Israel killed civilians- but what about a Somali criminal that I heard on a podcast? No Palestinians voted for this sure, but what about a Tanzanian Brit that "fled Sharia" (in London) that I heard from on MSN that reinforces my far right views?

Oh and the Pride Parade stabbing was in Jerusalem. By a Jewish fundamentalist.

Was it not reported on your whataboutist, Islamophobic, MSN feed?

Yishai Schlissel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Harris also criticized Israel. Though to be fair, those who don't rever Raheem Kassam, Hirsi Ali and propagandists do so as a rule.

Here's the Israeli Supreme Court on Israel starving Gazans. As a whataboutist Islamophobe, let's predict your reaction:

1) Ignore it?
2) What about starving in some other country?
3) Here's an Islamophobe from a western country with a Muslim name. What about that?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/high-court-orders-state-to-demonstrate-aid-supply-to-gaza-is-sufficient/

The High Court of Justice issued interim orders against the state over the supply of humanitarian aid to Gaza, in effect placing the burden of proof on the government to demonstrate it’s providing enough humanitarian supplies to the Palestinian population in the war-torn territory to meet its legal obligations.

The state has 10 days to respond, after which the court will likely hold another hearing before making a final ruling.

Following a three-hour hearing on Monday, the High Court issued an interim order instructing the state to explain why it should not allow unfettered access of humanitarian aid, equipment and staff into the Gaza Strip in light of the severe humanitarian situation in the enclave amid the ongoing war started by Hamas’s October 7 attack.

You haven't provided any facts.

Like everyone else on the far right, you've provided:

1) Comments by far right race hustlers (Hirsi Ali, Kassam) out of context and not relating to any fact- eg, saying a British born man fled Sharia law

2) Bigotry (eg "The Palestinians" did x, y z instead of holding a gov responsible, hold an ethnicity

3) Accuse any source- even though I've used mostly Israeli and Jewish ones- of anti semitism

4) Substitute your own questionable judgment for people who lived in Israel

5) Pinkwash, while ignoring the reality that minorities in Israel have less rights than normal democracies (BUT THEY HAVE MORE THAN IRAN!! AND HAMAS!!! TALK ABOUT THAT!!! am I right?) Imagine if in 1964 the US said segregation was fine because minorities had it better than North Koreans. This is the sickening argument.

6) Ignore reality- eg the report this week that Israel knowingly ignored its own laws on civil engagement leading to countless deaths, including of Israelis, aid workers and others- because I know the dead Palestinian children don't upset you.

And...at 3AM. SMH.

If Bibi was not the Israeli PM would you still present as such an antisemite? Is your issue with him? Totally fine to be critical of Israeli government and/or Bibi. But you have pretty much left a massive digital footprint on this thread as a bigot.

 

[Knight177lb]

Not what happened with Hirsi at all. Dutch courts determined something else entirely. Do you want to research it on your own and realize you've (again) been propagandized by people who think they can profit on Islamophobia and lies like your best pal the British non-Muslim who fled Hamas? What does she have to do with Hamas- she's not even Palestinian.

This is where your Islamophobia shines through. You think someone who sounds Muslim on paper now talking crap about Muslims, whether they're a criminal like Hirsi Ali or someone like Kassam who was never Muslim but sounds it and talks about women like Hamas anyway validates Israel's behavior. The two are not connected, aside from the fact that Islamophobes endorse both. And likely rant about it at 3AM on a Saturday.

I agree with Bernie. You're here complaining about him by endorsing a British person who you still don't explain how he "exposed Hamas." When/how was it?

Please provide proof of when the Palestinian people- since you say Palestinians- voted on any proposal. Did the North Koreans vote to starve themselves? Did Russians vote to invade Ukraine? Did China vote to abuse Xinjiang or HK? You would never accuse all Chinese people of being responsible for Tiananmen, but have no issue again blaming all Palestinian people. Even here in the US, did "Americans" do My Lai, or was it a handful of people that did a horrible thing?

You have your whataboutism down like all Islamophobes. Israel killed civilians- but what about a Somali criminal that I heard on a podcast? No Palestinians voted for this sure, but what about a Tanzanian Brit that "fled Sharia" (in London) that I heard from on MSN that reinforces my far right views?

Oh and the Pride Parade stabbing was in Jerusalem. By a Jewish fundamentalist.

Was it not reported on your whataboutist, Islamophobic, MSN feed?

Yishai Schlissel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Harris also criticized Israel. Though to be fair, those who don't rever Raheem Kassam, Hirsi Ali and propagandists do so as a rule.

Here's the Israeli Supreme Court on Israel starving Gazans. As a whataboutist Islamophobe, let's predict your reaction:

1) Ignore it?
2) What about starving in some other country?
3) Here's an Islamophobe from a western country with a Muslim name. What about that?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/high-court-orders-state-to-demonstrate-aid-supply-to-gaza-is-sufficient/

The High Court of Justice issued interim orders against the state over the supply of humanitarian aid to Gaza, in effect placing the burden of proof on the government to demonstrate it’s providing enough humanitarian supplies to the Palestinian population in the war-torn territory to meet its legal obligations.

The state has 10 days to respond, after which the court will likely hold another hearing before making a final ruling.

Following a three-hour hearing on Monday, the High Court issued an interim order instructing the state to explain why it should not allow unfettered access of humanitarian aid, equipment and staff into the Gaza Strip in light of the severe humanitarian situation in the enclave amid the ongoing war started by Hamas’s October 7 attack.

You haven't provided any facts.

Like everyone else on the far right, you've provided:

1) Comments by far right race hustlers (Hirsi Ali, Kassam) out of context and not relating to any fact- eg, saying a British born man fled Sharia law

2) Bigotry (eg "The Palestinians" did x, y z instead of holding a gov responsible, hold an ethnicity

3) Accuse any source- even though I've used mostly Israeli and Jewish ones- of anti semitism

4) Substitute your own questionable judgment for people who lived in Israel

5) Pinkwash, while ignoring the reality that minorities in Israel have less rights than normal democracies (BUT THEY HAVE MORE THAN IRAN!! AND HAMAS!!! TALK ABOUT THAT!!! am I right?) Imagine if in 1964 the US said segregation was fine because minorities had it better than North Koreans. This is the sickening argument.

6) Ignore reality- eg the report this week that Israel knowingly ignored its own laws on civil engagement leading to countless deaths, including of Israelis, aid workers and others- because I know the dead Palestinian children don't upset you.

And...at 3AM. SMH.

You didn't answer my question. Should Hirsi Ali be sent back to her country, forced to live under Sharia law, and forced back into her arranged marriage with a terrorist all because she lied on her refugee status?

If you agree with Bernie, then you're against the Hamas attack on October 7th. You seem to be for it though. You said, Israel never did anything for peace prior to October 7th.

What has Hirsi Ali said that was ever false? You call me Islamophobic because you're reading from the left playbook again. I'm for equal rights for women and gays and I think that Sharia law is evil. Is that why?

You said Israel never did anything for peace. Peace was offered five times and now you're saying it doesn't count because Palestinians didn't vote for it. Fine, but you're still wrong in saying that Israel never did anything for peace. There are still no Palestinian leaders that are calling for a two-state solution.

So, you point out that a gay person was stabbed in Jerusalem and that means that it's OK for gays to be executed by Hamas, Hezbollah, or any other Arab country?

The Supreme Court didn't rule that Gazans are being starved. They just asked for proof that Gazans are being provided food. You claimed that the court ruled that they are purposely starving Gazans. The Gazans are not being starved and the military will provide proof.

How is your judgement better than someone who lived under Sharia law? What has Hirsi Ali or Hassan Yousef ever said about life under Sharia law that's a lie?

 

[NotInRHouse]

If Bibi was not the Israeli PM would you still present as such an antisemite? Is your issue with him? Totally fine to be critical of Israeli government and/or Bibi. But you have pretty much left a massive digital footprint on this thread as a bigot.

As much as I'd defer to you on bigotry- it's the only "skill" you've ever presented on this board at all- the only person presenting as anti-Semite here is you.

You spend your day posting in support of someone who said a judge can't decide a case because "he's a Mexican"- despite being born in Indiana. Who said very fine people were on both sides of a rally where "Jew will not replace us" was chanted. Told people of color born in America to "go back to their own country." etc.

Of course your simping for Netanyahu makes sense. Like your American idol, he's a felon, check. He said "the Arabs are voting in droves. Bigotry, check. He tried to shut down democracy in his country, so aligns with your fascism. And of course, both hate freedom of speech as you have railed against the 1A. Sad.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You didn't answer my question. Should Hirsi Ali be sent back to her country, forced to live under Sharia law, and forced back into her arranged marriage with a terrorist all because she lied on her refugee status?

If you agree with Bernie, then you're against the Hamas attack on October 7th. You seem to be for it though. You said, Israel never did anything for peace prior to October 7th.

What has Hirsi Ali said that was ever false? You call me Islamophobic because you're reading from the left playbook again. I'm for equal rights for women and gays and I think that Sharia law is evil. Is that why?

You said Israel never did anything for peace. Peace was offered five times and now you're saying it doesn't count because Palestinians didn't vote for it. Fine, but you're still wrong in saying that Israel never did anything for peace. There are still no Palestinian leaders that are calling for a two-state solution.

So, you point out that a gay person was stabbed in Jerusalem and that means that it's OK for gays to be executed by Hamas, Hezbollah, or any other Arab country?

The Supreme Court didn't rule that Gazans are being starved. They just asked for proof that Gazans are being provided food. You claimed that the court ruled that they are purposely starving Gazans. The Gazans are not being starved and the military will provide proof.

How is your judgement better than someone who lived under Sharia law? What has Hirsi Ali or Hassan Yousef ever said about life under Sharia law that's a lie?

She should comply with the laws of the Netherlands which is a democracy, and probably one of the more permissive ones. Why didn't she?

I didn't say "Israel never did anything for peace" of course. Don't you have better things to do at 1:56AM?

Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application.

Do you ever put away that far right playbook?

Let's go through the steps:

1) You lie repeatedly. I never said "Israel never did anything for peace"

2) You cite far right pundits with a history of criminality. Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application. I've seen your fellow far right pals take Ls on this board, but damn.

3) You pretend to be for equal rights. Do Israeli women have the right to divorce? Do Israeli LGBT folks have the right to get married? Go ahead and say yes so I can own you some more. You didn't even know the gay pride parades in Israel have suffered violent attacks and somehow claim that is exculpated by Iran?

4) You lied about the Israeli Supreme Court. They issued interim orders because of proof o tion. And the military didn't show proof.

5) You change the question after taking massive Ls.

You claimed Raheem Kassam fled Sharia law.

I'm going to mention that lie in every post in that thread until you man up and take the L.

Say it. You're a far right propaganda follower. You heard a Muslim name, and given your inherent bigotry, when you heard that Muslim name belching your far right hymnal talking points, you assumed he must have been an immigrant. Showing your horrendous Islamophobia and xenophobia. And you can't even man up and say you claimed a British far right pundit, who never lived anywhere but the US and UK, had nothing to do with Islam, Sharia or "exposing Hamas" in anyway.

As exposed as Neal is, that you did that exposes you even worse in a lot of ways.

And then you try to exculpate yourself by citing another fraud, Hirsi Ali.

The program alleged that, contrary to Hirsi Ali's claims of having fled a Somali war zone, the MP had been living comfortably in upper middle-class conditions safely in Kenya with her family for at least 12 years before she sought refugee status in the Netherlands in 1992. In her version of events, she had fled civil war in Somalia, was forced into an arranged marriage with a man whom she had never met and was not present at her own wedding. Upon escaping she was forced into hiding in the Netherlands, for her ex-husband and father's brothers would have been by Somali custom, required to perform an honor killing. According to witnesses on the programme, she left Somalia prior to any mass violence and led a comfortable, upper-middle class life in neighboring Kenya, where she attended a Muslim girls' school and received a full western-style education with a focus on the humanities and science.

On 16 May Hirsi Ali resigned from Parliament after admitting that she had lied on her asylum application.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So let's sum up your (recent) lies.

1) You claimed Hirsi Ali fled Sharia law. She didn't.

2) You claimed Raheem Kassam fled Sharia law. He didn't.

3) You claimed I said "Israel never did anything for peace." I didn't.

Perhaps it's time

A) You put away that far right playbook of lies

B) You stop idolizing far right pundits and citing them merely because they share your Islamophobic and xenophobic views, and look at how they're scamming you?

C) You do something better with your time at 2AM than defend a country you've never set foot by citing other people who have nothing to do with it except sharing the Islamophobia and grifting of its PM?

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

 

[NealPageNJ]

As much as I'd defer to you on bigotry- it's the only "skill" you've ever presented on this board at all- the only person presenting as anti-Semite here is you.

You spend your day posting in support of someone who said a judge can't decide a case because "he's a Mexican"- despite being born in Indiana. Who said very fine people were on both sides of a rally where "Jew will not replace us" was chanted. Told people of color born in America to "go back to their own country." etc.

Of course your simping for Netanyahu makes sense. Like your American idol, he's a felon, check. He said "the Arabs are voting in droves. Bigotry, check. He tried to shut down democracy in his country, so aligns with your fascism. And of course, both hate freedom of speech as you have railed against the 1A. Sad.

A lot of words to mean nothing.

Happy Hanukkah.
Happy New Year.
Am Yisrael Chai.

 

[NotInRHouse]

A lot of words to mean nothing.

Happy Hanukkah.
Happy New Year.
Am Yisrael Chai.

Yeah I mean...could just do like you and quote tweets from people who promote anti semitism.

 

[Knight177lb]

She should comply with the laws of the Netherlands which is a democracy, and probably one of the more permissive ones. Why didn't she?

I didn't say "Israel never did anything for peace" of course. Don't you have better things to do at 1:56AM?

Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application.

Do you ever put away that far right playbook?

Let's go through the steps:

1) You lie repeatedly. I never said "Israel never did anything for peace"

2) You cite far right pundits with a history of criminality. Hirsi Ali lied on her refugee application. I've seen your fellow far right pals take Ls on this board, but damn.

3) You pretend to be for equal rights. Do Israeli women have the right to divorce? Do Israeli LGBT folks have the right to get married? Go ahead and say yes so I can own you some more. You didn't even know the gay pride parades in Israel have suffered violent attacks and somehow claim that is exculpated by Iran?

4) You lied about the Israeli Supreme Court. They issued interim orders because of proof o tion. And the military didn't show proof.

5) You change the question after taking massive Ls.

You claimed Raheem Kassam fled Sharia law.

I'm going to mention that lie in every post in that thread until you man up and take the L.

Say it. You're a far right propaganda follower. You heard a Muslim name, and given your inherent bigotry, when you heard that Muslim name belching your far right hymnal talking points, you assumed he must have been an immigrant. Showing your horrendous Islamophobia and xenophobia. And you can't even man up and say you claimed a British far right pundit, who never lived anywhere but the US and UK, had nothing to do with Islam, Sharia or "exposing Hamas" in anyway.

As exposed as Neal is, that you did that exposes you even worse in a lot of ways.

And then you try to exculpate yourself by citing another fraud, Hirsi Ali.

The program alleged that, contrary to Hirsi Ali's claims of having fled a Somali war zone, the MP had been living comfortably in upper middle-class conditions safely in Kenya with her family for at least 12 years before she sought refugee status in the Netherlands in 1992. In her version of events, she had fled civil war in Somalia, was forced into an arranged marriage with a man whom she had never met and was not present at her own wedding. Upon escaping she was forced into hiding in the Netherlands, for her ex-husband and father's brothers would have been by Somali custom, required to perform an honor killing. According to witnesses on the programme, she left Somalia prior to any mass violence and led a comfortable, upper-middle class life in neighboring Kenya, where she attended a Muslim girls' school and received a full western-style education with a focus on the humanities and science.

On 16 May Hirsi Ali resigned from Parliament after admitting that she had lied on her asylum application.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So let's sum up your (recent) lies.

1) You claimed Hirsi Ali fled Sharia law. She didn't.

2) You claimed Raheem Kassam fled Sharia law. He didn't.

3) You claimed I said "Israel never did anything for peace." I didn't.

Perhaps it's time

A) You put away that far right playbook of lies

B) You stop idolizing far right pundits and citing them merely because they share your Islamophobic and xenophobic views, and look at how they're scamming you?

C) You do something better with your time at 2AM than defend a country you've never set foot by citing other people who have nothing to do with it except sharing the Islamophobia and grifting of its PM?

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

Obviously, when I asked you what has Hirsi lied about, I meant what is she saying about Hamas and other terrorist groups that are a lie. Very cute, but you're still avoiding the question. Also, why won't you say what anything about Hassan Yousef? What is he saying about Hamas that's false? He's the son of a Hamas founder. Do you know better than him?

You still didn't answer my question. Do you think Hirsi should have never escaped and be married to a terrorist now?

Now this is really bazar. I claimed that Hirsi Ali escaped Sharia law. Then you post a link that proves she did indeed escape from Sharia law. She was being forced into an arranged marriage with a terrorist and if she stayed where she was, she would have been murdered. She went through genital mutilation. (yeah, you just ignored that). You're just proving my point. This is just like when you post that Israel isn't a democracy because there are protests against Netanyahu. So basically, they don't have democracy because they have democracy.

I think the marriage rules in Israel are stupid and they should be changed. That's why it's being changed as we speak. We went over this before. It is not Israeli law that gays should be executed. Under Hamas, that's the law. Pretty simple.

The Supreme court didn't rule that Gazans were being starved. They asked for proof. Now you're speculating that they won't provide proof. That's speculation, not a ruling like you claimed. In the future, I suggest actually reading the article before posting it.

I'm definitely not far right. I am presenting facts. I have no political agenda. The truth about Israel is important. Spreading lies and hate is only going to encourage more violence like we saw in New Orleans. I'm not following a far-right playbook. I'm an independent free thinker. I do watch people like Bill Maher and Chris Cuomo who are liberal, but also pro-Israel.

You seemed obsessed with the hours I keep. Kind of creepy.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Obviously, when I asked you what has Hirsi lied about, I meant what is she saying about Hamas and other terrorist groups that are a lie. Very cute, but you're still avoiding the question. Also, why won't you say what anything about Hassan Yousef? What is he saying about Hamas that's false? He's the son of a Hamas founder. Do you know better than him?

You still didn't answer my question. Do you think Hirsi should have never escaped and be married to a terrorist now?

Now this is really bazar. I claimed that Hirsi Ali escaped Sharia law. Then you post a link that proves she did indeed escape from Sharia law. She was being forced into an arranged marriage with a terrorist and if she stayed where she was, she would have been murdered. She went through genital mutilation. (yeah, you just ignored that). You're just proving my point. This is just like when you post that Israel isn't a democracy because there are protests against Netanyahu. So basically, they don't have democracy because they have democracy.

I think the marriage rules in Israel are stupid and they should be changed. That's why it's being changed as we speak. We went over this before. It is not Israeli law that gays should be executed. Under Hamas, that's the law. Pretty simple.

The Supreme court didn't rule that Gazans were being starved. They asked for proof. Now you're speculating that they won't provide proof. That's speculation, not a ruling like you claimed. In the future, I suggest actually reading the article before posting it.

I'm definitely not far right. I am presenting facts. I have no political agenda. The truth about Israel is important. Spreading lies and hate is only going to encourage more violence like we saw in New Orleans. I'm not following a far-right playbook. I'm an independent free thinker. I do watch people like Bill Maher and Chris Cuomo who are liberal, but also pro-Israel.

You seemed obsessed with the hours I keep. Kind of creepy.

2:23 on a Sunday morning! Getting later and later!

You asked what Hirsi lied about. Every source you cite is a liar- being a far right media drone, aren't you used to it?

Hirsi lied about the arranged marriage.

She should have stayed in Kenya. But she knew she had a future as a far right media hustler, I guess.

Hirsi Ali:

1) was not in an arranged marriage
2) was not subject to genital mutilation
3) Lived comfortable middle class, western life, in a majority Christian, middle income country (Kenya)

Do you not read English?

So I proved you an Hirsi Ali the fake refugee liars.

I promised to answer your question on Yousef when you tell me how Raheem Kassam, the British born non-Muslim fled Sharia law. Can you explain yourself, or admit you lied?

When is the legalization of gay marriage in Israel due? If you can't provide a link, add ANOTHER lie to the list.

Actually the Israeli Supreme Court- PER MY LINK- said there was proof of starvation.

You're lying again. Providing no proof, again. Maybe Raheem Kassam can "expose" the Israeli Supreme Court? LMAO.

You claim to present facts? LMAO

1) You claimed a British born non Muslim fled Sharia law
2) You claimed Israel had free marriage (doesn't even for women never mind LGBT)
3) You claimed there was no deliberate starvation in Gaza when Israel's own Supreme Court found evidence
4) You claimed Hirsi Ali fled Sharia law, when she went to an affluent, Western school in Kenya and was not being forced into an arranged marriage and then LIED on her asylum application about all of it forcing her to leave the Netherlands

And that is just on this page.

"Independent free thinker" posting about hustlers like Hirsi Ali at 2:30 AM ROFLMAO on a SUNDAY!!!

 

[Knight177lb]

2:23 on a Sunday morning! Getting later and later!

You asked what Hirsi lied about. Every source you cite is a liar- being a far right media drone, aren't you used to it?

Hirsi lied about the arranged marriage.

She should have stayed in Kenya. But she knew she had a future as a far right media hustler, I guess.

Hirsi Ali:

1) was not in an arranged marriage
2) was not subject to genital mutilation
3) Lived comfortable middle class, western life, in a majority Christian, middle income country (Kenya)

Do you not read English?

So I proved you an Hirsi Ali the fake refugee liars.

I promised to answer your question on Yousef when you tell me how Raheem Kassam, the British born non-Muslim fled Sharia law. Can you explain yourself, or admit you lied?

When is the legalization of gay marriage in Israel due? If you can't provide a link, add ANOTHER lie to the list.

Actually the Israeli Supreme Court- PER MY LINK- said there was proof of starvation.

You're lying again. Providing no proof, again. Maybe Raheem Kassam can "expose" the Israeli Supreme Court? LMAO.

You claim to present facts? LMAO

1) You claimed a British born non Muslim fled Sharia law
2) You claimed Israel had free marriage (doesn't even for women never mind LGBT)
3) You claimed there was no deliberate starvation in Gaza when Israel's own Supreme Court found evidence
4) You claimed Hirsi Ali fled Sharia law, when she went to an affluent, Western school in Kenya and was not being forced into an arranged marriage and then LIED on her asylum application about all of it forcing her to leave the Netherlands

And that is just on this page.

"Independent free thinker" posting about hustlers like Hirsi Ali at 2:30 AM ROFLMAO on a SUNDAY!!!

You first stated that Israel was purposely starving Gazans, I asked for the article. You posted the article without reading it. Now you're trying to twist the words around in a desperate attempt not to look foolish. The article you posted stated that the Supreme Court did not rule that there was starvation, they asked for proof that Gazans are being provided for. You saw the headline and posted the article without reading it. You screwed up, but that's OK. Going forward, you should read everything from both sides with an open mind.

It's a good thing that that the Supreme Court is concerned with the welfare of civilians. That's what happens in a liberal democracy. Once again, you're proving yourself wrong.

Hirsi Ali lied about her name and date of birth. That's all. In the link you posted it says "At the age of five, following local traditions in Somalia, Ali underwent female genital mutilation organized by her grandmother." Is she lying about anything she says about Sharia law? She's against female genital mutilation, forced marriage, and honor killings. Is that so wrong? Shouldn't all women have equal rights? Just because she criticizes Sharia law, she has constant death threats.

I never claimed that Israel has free marriage. I agreed with you that they have a stupid marriage law. What I do claim is that not having equal marriage laws for gays is not the same as Hamas law which is to execute all gays.

Again with the time? This is really getting creepy.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You first stated that Israel was purposely starving Gazans, I asked for the article. You posted the article without reading it. Now you're trying to twist the words around in a desperate attempt not to look foolish. The article you posted stated that the Supreme Court did not rule that there was starvation, they asked for proof that Gazans are being provided for. You saw the headline and posted the article without reading it. You screwed up, but that's OK. Going forward, you should read everything from both sides with an open mind.

It's a good thing that that the Supreme Court is concerned with the welfare of civilians. That's what happens in a liberal democracy. Once again, you're proving yourself wrong.

Hirsi Ali lied about her name and date of birth. That's all. In the link you posted it says "At the age of five, following local traditions in Somalia, Ali underwent female genital mutilation organized by her grandmother." Is she lying about anything she says about Sharia law? She's against female genital mutilation, forced marriage, and honor killings. Is that so wrong? Shouldn't all women have equal rights? Just because she criticizes Sharia law, she has constant death threats.

I never claimed that Israel has free marriage. I agreed with you that they have a stupid marriage law. What I do claim is that not having equal marriage laws for gays is not the same as Hamas law which is to execute all gays.

Again with the time? This is really getting creepy.

Here I'll make it easier for you. Just say "I don't know how civil law countries work." Israel is a civil law country. Judges have prosecutorial ability that ours do not. They already found cause for starvation.

You are reading.

You're also not reading how Hirsi Ali lied. She was found out. She lived in Kenya, not Somalia. Start there. She lied about everything. She moved to Kenya at 8. No arranged marriage. No Sharia law.

The program alleged that, contrary to Hirsi Ali's claims of having fled a Somali war zone, the MP had been living comfortably in upper middle-class conditions safely in Kenya with her family for at least 12 years before she sought refugee status in the Netherlands in 1992. In her version of events, she had fled civil war in Somalia, was forced into an arranged marriage with a man whom she had never met and was not present at her own wedding. Upon escaping she was forced into hiding in the Netherlands, for her ex-husband and father's brothers would have been by Somali custom, required to perform an honor killing. According to witnesses on the programme, she left Somalia prior to any mass violence and led a comfortable, upper-middle class life in neighboring Kenya, where she attended a Muslim girls' school and received a full western-style education with a focus on the humanities and science.

She's like you- she writes screeds about a topic she knows nothing about in defense of far right ideals at off hours. It's just she has monetized it. Like Raheem Kassam.

She was a wealthy immigrant who decided that Kenya, a secular country, wasn't good enough for her so she had to go to the Netherlands. Something I'm OK with totally. But I don't like the lies. Your far right pals don't want the US or Israel to allow this kind of immigration. But you're OK with her because she validates your partisan, independent-hating, free thought-opposing views. She made the claim about genital mutilation, and you're repeating it. But she's lied about absolutely everything.

We can stop mocking your late night lies when you explain how Raheem Kassam, born in London, fled Sharia law and exposed Hamas.

Until you admit you lied, I'll keep posting how you lie after midnight. Very easy. You made the claim, be a man, and back it up or admit you lied and shared propaganda.

 

[Knight177lb]

Here I'll make it easier for you. Just say "I don't know how civil law countries work." Israel is a civil law country. Judges have prosecutorial ability that ours do not. They already found cause for starvation.

You are reading.

You're also not reading how Hirsi Ali lied. She was found out. She lived in Kenya, not Somalia. Start there. She lied about everything. She moved to Kenya at 8. No arranged marriage. No Sharia law.

The program alleged that, contrary to Hirsi Ali's claims of having fled a Somali war zone, the MP had been living comfortably in upper middle-class conditions safely in Kenya with her family for at least 12 years before she sought refugee status in the Netherlands in 1992. In her version of events, she had fled civil war in Somalia, was forced into an arranged marriage with a man whom she had never met and was not present at her own wedding. Upon escaping she was forced into hiding in the Netherlands, for her ex-husband and father's brothers would have been by Somali custom, required to perform an honor killing. According to witnesses on the programme, she left Somalia prior to any mass violence and led a comfortable, upper-middle class life in neighboring Kenya, where she attended a Muslim girls' school and received a full western-style education with a focus on the humanities and science.

She's like you- she writes screeds about a topic she knows nothing about in defense of far right ideals at off hours. It's just she has monetized it. Like Raheem Kassam.

She was a wealthy immigrant who decided that Kenya, a secular country, wasn't good enough for her so she had to go to the Netherlands. Something I'm OK with totally. But I don't like the lies. Your far right pals don't want the US or Israel to allow this kind of immigration. But you're OK with her because she validates your partisan, independent-hating, free thought-opposing views. She made the claim about genital mutilation, and you're repeating it. But she's lied about absolutely everything.

We can stop mocking your late night lies when you explain how Raheem Kassam, born in London, fled Sharia law and exposed Hamas.

Until you admit you lied, I'll keep posting how you lie after midnight. Very easy. You made the claim, be a man, and back it up or admit you lied and shared propaganda.

She claims she was subjected to female genital mutilation and you claim she's lying? It happened when she was five. How do you know she lied about it? What do want for proof?

You didn't answer the question. What does she say about Sharia law that's wrong? Go ahead and keep questioning a woman who subjected to such a horrible procedure, but it doesn't change the facts:

1. Sharia law is evil
2. Hamas is evil
3. There would be no war if Hamas didn't attack
4. Israel is a democracy

Since you're so concerned with what time I post, I'm posting earlier today because there's nothing on TV except a football game where I equally hate both teams and I don't give a Damm who wins.

 

[NotInRHouse]

She claims she was subjected to female genital mutilation and you claim she's lying? It happened when she was five. How do you know she lied about it? What do want for proof?

You didn't answer the question. What does she say about Sharia law that's wrong? Go ahead and keep questioning a woman who subjected to such a horrible procedure, but it doesn't change the facts:

1. Sharia law is evil
2. Hamas is evil
3. There would be no war if Hamas didn't attack
4. Israel is a democracy

Since you're so concerned with what time I post, I'm posting earlier today because there's nothing on TV except a football game where I equally hate both teams and I don't give a Damm who wins.

She lied about everything. That's the problem. People don't usually just lie about one thing. How do you know she's truthful.

She said she lived under Sharia law. Kenya has Sharia law?

Keep parroting propaganda, it doesn't change the facts:

1. Netanyahu and Ben Gvir are evil
2. There would be no 10/7 and no war if Netanyahu didn't fund Hamas and actually focused on security rather than protecting American citizen settler violent terrorist lunatics in the West Bank
3. Israel has bombed churches, aid workers and its own civilians
4. Israel has killed multiple innocent American citizens, including a Christian journalist and a grandpa
5. Bombing churches and killing Americans and Israelis doesn't stop Sharia law or Hamas
6. Israel isn't a democracy
7. Hirsi Ali never, ever, lived under Sharia law or fled it in any way
8. You claimed a British born right wing pundit, Raheem Kassam, who was an aide for the leader of anti-Semitic UKIP Nigel Farage, fled Sharia law and provided no proof and have only exposed yourself.