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Rutgers ' spplications rise over 90%

well that explains that then. Appreciate the facts here. I always thought getting a Eco degree from then Rutgers College was a darn fine field and achievement. Profs like JJ and Sidney Simon were the real deal.
Newark had an undergrad business school long before NB. That’s where the date you got comes from.
 
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Try 20-25. Especially if they get denied from a school early on. They just apply anywhere
20+ wasn’t the normal when my oldest went through the process last year. But it doesn’t surprise me. Most kids (and parents) always get the reach, target reach and safety schools wrong. In reality, their idea of reach schools are no chance schools and target reach are really reach schools. One big reason is that they base it on schools published stats. But if you are from NJ, you need to be at the upper end to have a chance.
20+ apps is insane. It's getting somewhat harder to create those lists of target, reach and safety with the rise in apps, decline in acceptance rates, massive grade inflation, and test optional. Bringing back the standardized test requirement will help.
 
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20+ apps is insane. It's getting somewhat harder to create those lists of target, reach and safety with the rise in apps, decline in acceptance rates, massive grade inflation, and test optional. Bringing back the standardized test requirement will help.
I do like Naviance that shows you kids from your HS that got in or rejected to a particular college and their stats. If you are in the median or the bottom 25% of the stats the school publish, you have no shot from NJ.

ETA colleges that are school blind also help your chances. Think 8 or 9 kids got in to Wake last year from my town.
 
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A SUNY college president said that for every 100 student decline in attendance the college loses $1 million.
A central fact in the attendance decline is the male to female ratio - boys have been avoiding college.
SUNY New Paltz is 65% female and so are other SUNY colleges.

Of course college debt has scared people off but not the women so much.
The boys get worn by the institutionalized repression where they are made inferior people causing everyone else's problems.
College themselves were having "justice committees" where students (boys) get unofficially charged with all sorts of things.
A whole area of legal defense has sprung-up because of this.

Women meanwhile are often appointed cosmic heroes just because they are women.
I saw a GEICO site where they bragged they hired 67% women in the past year.
A look at LA fire situation shows who is getting hired and its a hostile agenda by hostile bureaucracies (see NC FEMA) .

College Student Disciplinary Hearings​


The Male Enrollment Crisis

"Men make up just over half of the 18- to 24-year-olds in America, but they’re vastly outnumbered in the nation’s colleges. In the spring of 2021, men represented just 40.5 percent of undergraduate students — an all-time low — as the Covid-19 pandemic accelerated and amplified a trend that’s been building for 40 years."


I graduated from RU during GS 1.0 and it was majority women. Law school at a top 25 school, majority women.

Actually enures to men's benefit if they play their cards right, lol.

Gen Z men not going to college is a result of propaganda. And it's unfortunate for them. The woman may make less than a blue collar job to start...but will lap them within 10 years, live longer, and be prepared for retirement in a job where she's much less likely to be injured and can work indoors if not from home.

A lot of these small colleges closing has nothing to do with this as they were mostly female. It has to do with there just being less kids now overall and people choosing colleges with the best bang for your buck giving how expensive college is. Also many of the private schools are religious and religious bodies cannot sustain the costs for a variety of reasons.
 
Rutgers New Brunswick gender breakdown

Rutgers New Brunswick undergrad gender breakdown has been remarkably steady at 50-50.

% Female % Male
2019 49.9% 50.1%
2020 50.3% 49.7%
2021 50.1% 49.9%
2022 50.0% 50.0%
2023 50.2% 49.8%


When I was in school during GS 1.0, RC was like 55-45 women. Not sure if adding engineering and pharma skews it back.
 
I noticed that Penn State is about the only school that has more men than females, 53% vs 47%. Reason not to go to Penn State.

It's an absolute sausage fest. Idk if it's because it's known for historically male careers like engineering but it's noticeable there versus NB. And I think PA people who study the historically more female liberal arts choose Pitt. RU gets both kinds of students.

In Spanish classes at RU if there were 25 kids in the class 20 were women. My friends in the sciences couldn't wrap their heads around it.
 
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20+ wasn’t the normal when my oldest went through the process last year. But it doesn’t surprise me. Most kids (and parents) always get the reach, target reach and safety schools wrong. In reality, their idea of reach schools are no chance schools and target reach are really reach schools. One big reason is that they base it on schools published stats. But if you are from NJ, you need to be at the upper end to have a chance.

The other factor going on with increased applications is the lack of required SAT scores. Since COVID many schools, including Rutgers, stopped requiring the SAT in the name of equitable opportunity. As a result, lots of kids began to apply to schools they never would have considered when SAt was required. The schools love it because their average SAT rose…they no longer have to accept kids on the lower end of their SAT range and so their average scores rise. All part of the game. Much of college admissions it full-on bullshit. Stats are manipulated systematically to drive perception.
 
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RBS did not have an undergrad school until the mid 80s.
When I entered Rutgers college in ‘83 all students wanting a business oriented degree became Econ majors
That's pretty much what it was. Sometime in early 80s, I think there was a greater push for more formalized undergraduate business education in NB/Pisc. At the time, that might have only been available in some form up in Newark. May have been a legacy of NB admin focused on a more classical/traditional program of study, i.e. economics (a very strong department at Rutgers) versus the more practical business admin program of study. Rutgers seemingly motivated in keeping with a liberal, ivy league-ish model with things like this.

Of course to this day Harvard for example does not offer an undergrad business degree. Many of its students focused on business studies have traditionally been econ majors there. HBS is only a graduate level school awarding the MBA. While Penn (Wharton) is both an undergrad/graduate school, for undergrad it only awards a bachelor's degree in econ along with being able to complete a concentration in accounting, finance, etc.

The predecessor to current day RBS on the NB/Pisc campus was the upper-division SBNB (School of Business, New Brunswick) established in 1986 on the Livingston campus and housed in modular buildings. The new Levin building for SBNB opened in 1989. Upper division business students would declare a major as rising juniors (from among Accounting, Finance, Managment, and Marketing) having started out their first two years as Pre-Business students while enrolled at one of the four liberal arts colleges. I think a minimum 3.0 gpa was needed. If denied the internal, upper division transfer to SBNB a logical and popular path would be to declare as an Econ major instead.

Coinciding with when they combined colleges and formed SAS in the mid 2000s they also decided to convert SBNB into a four-year, direct admit from high school, academic unit (benchmarking against several peer universities that had that preferred structure) and this was around the time when they rebranded to RBS (administratively combined between NB & Newark) which also folded in the separate Graduate School of Management (Newark).
 
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well, that explains that then. Appreciate the facts here. I always thought getting a Eco degree from then Rutgers College was a darn fine field and achievement. Profs like JJ and Sidney Simon were the real deal.
Agree. 👍
 
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