Sanders suspended 2 weeks.

[willisneverrana43]

Uhm, there are actually regulations - set by each school - for failed drug tests. Don't follow them and it could be one of many reasons you lose your job.

More to the point, you may recall that RU hired a firm that specializes in NCAA compliance, and one focus was the enforcement of suspensions for positive drug tests. Coming out of that, there would be no leeway for any deviation.

That said, I have no idea why EJ suspended Sanders.

Either way, no, I'm not feeling particularly "healed" with Eddie in charge the last 3 years.

 

[ruman]

More to the point, you may recall that RU hired a firm that specializes in NCAA compliance, and one focus was the enforcement of suspensions for positive drug tests. Coming out of that, there would be no leeway for any deviation.

That said, I have no idea why EJ suspended Sanders.

Either way, no, I'm not feeling particularly "healed" with Eddie in charge the last 3 years.

Going to need another healer

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

 

[shields]

Really feel bad for Lewis who stayed all these years. I have seen Rice and bannon and now Jordan. Have no confidence anything will change.

 

[goru7]

Hey SPK has that copyrighted on these boards. lol

Go RU , You think the curse began this year? It began when we desecrated sacred burial grounds in Piscataway with the football stadium and the dreaded RAC. You don't F with native American juju... How many chances are we going to get until they do what the Uni. of Chicago did and shut the whole program down ? We are a joke within a joke. If you think I am trolling I don't really care. I am angry and appalled and after 50 years of being let down, quite sick of it.I am usually the guy who pokes fun at this nonsense but it is no longer funny. Jeez. Enough already..

actually I definitely think messing with ancient sacred burial grounds was a no no. But until this past year of suspensions, arrests, injuries, arrests, suspensions in football and basketball, any prior underwhelming performances was due to Ru being too cheap to ever hire the home run hire that could have gotten us the success in football and getting to the Big Dance in basketball. The administration's total lack of support and commitment over the last 30 something years can be viewed as the reason for our fate. Not this year , cursed or someone poking a voodoo doll is the only way I can explain it.

 

[shields]

Agree with above.

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Suspensions usually a trend with bad programs. Seagears/Judge had issues Year 1. Etou suspended Year 2. Now Sanders and Freeman.

Most times, players send signals that they want to leave and are testing the coach. Sanders andFreeman have the most "value" on the transfer market. Last year, Etou had the most transfer interest.

 

[ruman]

Suspensions usually a trend with bad programs. Seagears/Judge had issues Year 1. Etou suspended Year 2. Now Sanders and Freeman.

Most times, players send signals that they want to leave and are testing the coach. Sanders andFreeman have the most "value" on the transfer market. Last year, Etou had the most transfer interest.

I doubt either transfers - cant see them sitting an entire year - however, playing ball overseas is a different story

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Suspensions usually a trend with bad programs. Seagears/Judge had issues Year 1. Etou suspended Year 2. Now Sanders and Freeman.

Most times, players send signals that they want to leave and are testing the coach. Sanders andFreeman have the most "value" on the transfer market. Last year, Etou had the most transfer interest.

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.....you short-circuit your own ability to transfer with bad behavior, which is why Etou landed at Tulsa vs a better program......he wanted to go after one-year and left after 2....Seagears was headed out regardless and handlers had that decision made well in advance.

Freeman off a knee injury has little to no leverage to transfer, unless he sits another year....good luck with that...All of these players can decide to stay or leave at anytime, they don't need to do anything to force anyone's hands here.

 

[ruman]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

I hope we finally have a smart AD - Pernetti was too loyal to Mike Rice - he had a chance to clean him out and start over and should have fired him for cause - very likely Tim would still be here

 

[B1GNJHoops]

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.....you short-circuit your own ability to transfer with bad behavior, which is why Etou landed at Tulsa vs a better program......he wanted to go after one-year and left after 2....Seagears was headed out regardless and handlers had that decision made well in advance.

Freeman off a knee injury has little to no leverage to transfer, unless he sits another year....good luck with that...All of these players can decide to stay or leave at anytime, they don't need to do anything to force anyone's hands here.

Talent always wins out. Plus we don't know why they were suspended.

I don't think coaches will take the moral high ground if it means adding an impact transfer.

They can of course stick it out at Rutgers but why should anyone trust Rutgers? Time and again were disappointed.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

Works for me. Whatever it takes to get this circus out of town.

 

[willisneverrana43]

It's not just ANY two players , it's our best two players and arguably the only two B1G level players we have.

We gave Eddie credit for recruiting them but I think there are reasons they dropped to us.

There's usually a reason that kids are JUCOs or very talented but with top schools backing away. So, yeah, Eddie got them. But a big part of the reason was that other schools didn't want to take the risk. Much of Eddie's recruiting--including the very recruiting that he is doing right now--has been done in risky waters. And the more of that you do, and Eddie's done a lot of it, the greater chance you get hurt by it.

It's not how you build a program.

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

If there is weed involved with RU basketball it should be part of a game promotion. getting the fans stoned would help make the game entertaining and food concessions eatable.

Fracking drama of titanic proportions.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes. . . .

This is absurd.

 

[RUJMM78]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

The firing of Jordan might mean the departure of Freeman and Sanders and the continuance of the league game losing streak.I doubt if there is another basketball program that is more unprepared to compete in a power conference.Finding a replacement with a cupboard bare squad seems a very difficult assignment.

 

[RC85]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

If Hobbs did indeed force the Freeman and Sanders suspensions then the writing is on the wall for Eddie. And I don't think Hobbs pulls these levers if he isn't confident that he has a new HC ready and able.

 

[shields]

It will be 2020 before we are competitive.

 

[WJLeggett]

Rutgers Basketball: There is no such thing as bottom...

 

[RUSONIC]

There's usually a reason that kids are JUCOs or very talented but with top schools backing away. So, yeah, Eddie got them. But a big part of the reason was that other schools didn't want to take the risk. Much of Eddie's recruiting--including the very recruiting that he is doing right now--has been done in risky waters. And the more of that you do, and Eddie's done a lot of it, the greater chance you get hurt by it.

It's not how you build a program.

Agree, Jordan or his staff are not putting in the hours and hours of recruiting that other successful coach's do. He picks up players like unwanted free agants. Sanders went to 100 different high schools, is that the typical route for top players to get to college.

 

[higgins3]

Sanders is not leaving. He can go to the NBA after next year. I doubt he wants to transfer and sit another year to play NCAA when NBA is a chance after next year.

A friend of mine from the forum talked about this today. I don't see him going anywhere. Tend to side with Hawk.

 

[SAE96]

Nail meet coffin.

I think people are underestimating Hobbs and his ability to bring in a quality coach.

 

[shields]

We will see, I have seen this before. Thought Rice was good and also Bannon.

 

[78CollegeAve]

If Hawk is right, then I give Hobbs a lot of style points.

I'm sure that Sanders can find a member of his family in Florida who has an, uh, illness that needs his attention so he can be eligible in 16-17. UCF? USF? Who wants the reward of his undeniable skills for the risk of whatever led him to 7 high schools in 4 years followed by suspensions in a semester and a month of college?

Freeman is a different case - big man who tore a meniscus in h.s. and misses most of a year of college ball with ...a bad leg. Maybe he finds a family excuse too and a school back in North Carolina like Charlotte will take a chance if it has a slot.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

This is absurd.

haha.....no clue....

 

[Turtle31]

We need a bigger dumpster and more gasoline

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Predictable

Another

Sanders is not leaving. He can go to the NBA after next year. I doubt he wants to transfer and sit another year to play NCAA when NBA is a chance after next year.

A friend of mine from the forum talked about this today. I don't see him going anywhere. Tend to side with Hawk.

Sanders is NOT an NBA player. Stop it.

 

[RICOelectric]

Nail meet coffin.

I think people are underestimating Hobbs and his ability to bring in a quality coach.

 

[rufeelinit]

I hope we finally have a smart AD - Pernetti was too loyal to Mike Rice - he had a chance to clean him out and start over and should have fired him for cause - very likely Tim would still be here

I would expect Hobbs to show the same loyalty to Ash and whomever he eventually hires to replace Jordan.

 

[rufeelinit]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

Well I am glad you clarified about 2/3rds of the way through that this was not fact since it sure sounded like you were saying it pretty definitively until then. If he did indeed orchestrate this then he must have the green light to eat the remaining contract and hire a credible replacement. I don't think this team with Sanders was winning more than 2 games the rest of the way and if that created a dilemma for PH then I might concerned with what influences him. I am not sure he would take the risk of the word getting out that he had a role in this. EJ probably had given CS a leash with prior minor indiscretions and perhaps the kid left him with no choice. Who knows. I do agree that the odds of EJ coming back took a major hit today and I fine with that regardless of who else stays or goes.

 

[higgins3]

Another


Sanders is NOT an NBA player. Stop it.

He is not?This is an online forum. It is okay,Fig. Our opinions differ.

 

[willisneverrana43]

haha.....no clue....

It is the worst example of internet message board thinking. In the fall, RU paid an NCAA investigative firm to investigate its athletic department top-to-bottom with a focus on enforcement of its drug policy. The investigation was a reaction to problems under Flood, and conducted while Hobbs wasn't even here.

So here you come, months later in a different sport and with a different AD, to suggest that that new AD is somehow manipulating that policy. Yeah, that's happening.

In the face of a costly drug policy investigation and a report whose ink is barely dry, the new guy has decided to try to manipulate it. I guess in this fantasy world, Hobbs knew about an earlier violation and did nothing until now when it somehow helps him. Or maybe the violation is new because Hobbs, the great manipulator, somehow engineered it.

This is message board conspiracy thinking at it's silliest. It fails the grown-up test.

Setting all that silliness aside, this is based on the even sillier notion that Hobbs needed anything more to build support for firing an already-under-fire 6-win coach who has lost more and more quickly than any coach in RU history.

Now, I know that your post is sufficiently vague that nobody can tell precisely what you're on about. That's typical of these conspiracy theories. Maybe it's drugs. Maybe it's grades. Maybe its something else. But whatever it is, it's Hobbs, you better believe it.

I could go on--and believe me I will if you force the issue--but this is the silliest thing written on this board this season.

 

[bac2therac]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

Im not sure I believe this theory but I actually want to. Because if Hobbs thought of this, then it means the guy is pretty shrewd and crafty and has pretty much been given carte blanche by Barchi. I want to believe it. alas I don't think its true. Perhaps Hobbs has had a talk with Eddie though and perhaps there is some accountability now.

One thing is clear..its a big suspension...what do you have to do to get suspended that many games..its not minor

 

[knights1212]

I have no idea why Corey was suspended but I as a loyal fan for 45 years and a season ticket holder for well over 25 years feel really let down. Corey was the one player who gave many of us fans a reason to have hope and to see some outstanding basketball. This was like a slap in the face to us for his not following team rules. Haven't the season ticket fans suffered enough already? How much suffering must we endure? Will this ongoing nightmare ever end? Haven't there been enough suspensions? Why can't these athletes just follow the rules? Why is that so difficult?

 

[Mr Magoo]

I have no idea why Corey was suspended but I as a loyal fan for 45 years and a season ticket holder for well over 25 years feel really let down. Corey was the one player who gave many of us fans a reason to have hope and to see some outstanding basketball. This was like a slap in the face to us for his not following team rules. Haven't the season ticket fans suffered enough already? How much suffering must we endure? Will this ongoing nightmare ever end? Haven't there been enough suspensions? Why can't these athletes just follow the rules? Why is that so difficult?

Look at it this way. This could lead to the inevitable re-build starting one year earlier than it otherwise probably would have. There may be hope once again if the right coach comes in. Trust in Hobbs.

By the way, I'm in the same boat as you...a season ticket holder for about 25 years. However, I will not renew if Jordan is still here. I've suffered enough.

 

[S_Janowski]

Suspension has Hobbs fingerprints all over it....Sanders didn't start doing anything differently than he did before....Sanders backed Jordan publically after Jordan's ill-advised comments and gets 23 points....you have 3 or maybe 4 winnable games left (PSU, Illinois and 2 vs Minnesota) and now you are left with sanders for only one of the four......If Sanders went off in these games and wins a couple, it becomes harder to let go of Eddie.....but if Sanders messed up like apparently he has done (or been doing), the timing of the suspension seems a little off to me.

RU with 3 wins would find it difficult to fire Eddie Jordan, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because there is still a lot of public sentiment that he should get a fourth year. The only way to gain public sentiment is cracking down on the student athletes, which makes it a reflection of the program and Eddie. Fans here are buying it 100%, echoing similar things like Flood etc.....

The problem is there is nothing different that Eddie is doing from Year 1 to Year 3.....Hobbs arrives and Freeman is suspended and now Sanders. It reflects back to the players because they are the ones suspended, but I don't see this is as a new item, just different eyes and ears (Hobbs) overseeing the program.

Hobbs is essentially lining this up for a removal of Eddie IMO.....I am not stating this as a fact or with any knowledge of anything, but the timing seems odd, at the end of an very forgettable season that as soon as Sanders generates red-hot results, he's suddenly suspended 2-3 weeks from the end of the season. Just my opinion, but I don't have any doubts now that a change is coming after this season. I've been back and forth on this over the last weeks, basing it on whether RU generated 2 to 4 wins or not....not that those wins mattered, but it would have changed the perception IF those wins occurred....without Sanders, there is little to no chance those wins are possible now. A winless or 1 win in conference warrants a change if parlayed together with the top recruits both earning suspensions. ......Call me crazy or just call it Hobbs cracking down on the program in perhaps ways that Eddie didn't or is perceived to not have done.

Hobbs has full support of Barchi, a 27 game BIG10 losing streak, a non-existent fan base and a morgue of a RAC.

Why in the world would he need his fingerprints on the suspension only Sanders to fire Jordan?

Other than money he has way more than enough ammo.

 

[RU848789]

It is the worst example of internet message board thinking. In the fall, RU paid an NCAA investigative firm to investigate its athletic department top-to-bottom with a focus on enforcement of its drug policy. The investigation was a reaction to problems under Flood, and conducted while Hobbs wasn't even here.

So here you come, months later in a different sport and with a different AD, to suggest that that new AD is somehow manipulating that policy. Yeah, that's happening.

In the face of a costly drug policy investigation and a report whose ink is barely dry, the new guy has decided to try to manipulate it. I guess in this fantasy world, Hobbs knew about an earlier violation and did nothing until now when it somehow helps him. Or maybe the violation is new because Hobbs, the great manipulator, somehow engineered it.

This is message board conspiracy thinking at it's silliest. It fails the grown-up test.

Setting all that silliness aside, this is based on the even sillier notion that Hobbs needed anything more to build support for firing an already-under-fire 6-win coach who has lost more and more quickly than any coach in RU history.

Now, I know that your post is sufficiently vague that nobody can tell precisely what you're on about. That's typical of these conspiracy theories. Maybe it's drugs. Maybe it's grades. Maybe its something else. But whatever it is, it's Hobbs, you better believe it.

I could go on--and believe me I will if you force the issue--but this is the silliest thing written on this board this season.

Hoping the issue gets forced - might lead to a Wrongoriffic sequel of epic proportions, lol. How anyone thinks there needs to be some conspiracy or subterfuge to justify putting out this dumpster fire is beyond me.

Here's a side story that reveals how little I've cared about this season. I thought Freeman was just injured and didn't know he had been suspended. Now Corey, too? I really, really wanted Eddie to succeed, but he has to be done with this performance or lack thereof. Damn I hate having to start over again.

 

[TobyTyler1]

sucks

 

[RutgersJoe]

So, not really sure how the end of year conference awards work..I know Corey was really gunning to be selected as the B1G freshman of the year...will this impact his chances (other than losing out on 4 opportunities to showcase his talents), or is it based solely on "on the court" credentials?

 

[Mr Magoo]

If he was "really gunning for it" he wouldn't have done whatever stupid thing he did.