Do you really think he should be walking into a teenage boy's house and say "I love you"? He's not a freakin' minister for crying out loud lol....listen, I don't know what he said, but everything I've heard about this guy, and seen with his recruiting results, it wouldn't shock me if he didn't say much more than what was was written. Honestly.
Saquon Barkley and Flood's last-ditch recruiting efforts
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Do you really think he should be walking into a teenage boy's house and say "I love you"? He's not a freakin' minister for crying out loud lol....listen, I don't know what he said, but everything I've heard about this guy, and seen with his recruiting results, it wouldn't shock me if he didn't say much more than what was was written. Honestly.
I guess Trey Sneed fell for the "I love you" line today then, ha. Come on man, you know ALOT more goes into recruiting then parsing one sentence from a high school coach. Whatever, no need to argue this, I just think we are making waaay to big a deal out of a high school coach's soundbite.
Depends..and correct me if I'm wrong, BUT, if you sign your grant you're here, period, regardless of what happens to the coaching staff, right? So if he wants to transfer he either sits out 1 (any Non-B1G school) or 2(B1G schools) years before he can play (same with Pollack).
Funny...we had heard how ALL these kids were going to stay, or leave, for Flood, but already 2 Florida kids - of all - have signed their grants which pretty much means they're coming here Flood-or-no-Flood. So I'm thinking it has nothing to do with Flood saying "I love you" if this is the case, right? LOL...just thinking out loud...who knows.
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I've no doubt these kids can see what everyone else can regarding KF's lack of coaching ability and know the clock is ticking loudly regarding the time Flood has left as RU's top guy. -And while they liked Flood as a person, and that was definitely a positive factor in terms of them being interested in becoming Scarlet Knights, in the final analysis these young guys decided they were committed to Rutgers first, and not just irrevocably committed to Kyle Flood alone.
If that wasn't the case, they would have never completed any kind of paperwork that tied them in any way to Rutgers. -And I have a feeling these two recruits won't be the only current commits who feel they're an RU commit, not merely a KF commit.
Perhaps you are correct that they're choosing the school, however, they signed grant in aid papers which reaffirms the player's commitment and scholarship, but is not binding. Whether KF is fired or not, they can get out of it.
Well, I take the fact that they put their signature to any sort of paperwork regarding Rutgers when it looks very much like KF is on his way out as a positive sign. -But, if it's not binding, and should Flood be fired and they decide it's in their best interest to look elsewhere, then they have to do what they feel is right for them.
Either way, a single recruiting class isn't worth keeping an unqualified coach. We've gone down that path before and that mistake has gotten us where things stand today.
There were basically three factions of forum members during the positoid/negatoid wars.
One group was mostly neutral, didn't love or hate Flood, wasn't giving a lot of thought to his long term potential and mostly just wanted to enjoy the wins and put the losses behind us. I never wanted Flood as the coach right from the start, but I still fit into this group because I wanted to just get as much entertainment and enjoyment as I could from the season.
Another group could loosely be called Flood supporters who, for whatever their reasons, took it personally when people had negative things to say about Flood, recruiting, etc. Some in this group were pretty extreme about attacking forum members that had negative things to say. Some of those extremists actually wanted to ban some forum members for their negative thoughts, to which I voiced my opposition.
And the third group of people could loosely be called Flood haters who, for whatever their reasons, were constantly negative about anything football related while Flood was coaching. Some in this group were pretty extreme too and would take every opportunity to piss all over anything positive anybody said. I posted a couple times about how it was kind of crappy of the extremists here to continuously rain on everybody's parade.
Anyway, in that situation, the negatoid vs. positoid wars, the extremists on both sides were a relatively small, overly loud segment of our population that seemed relatively balanced in numbers. Not exactly a lynch mob. Although I'm sure those on both sides felt like they were being lynched due to all the attack-minded posts.
This situation is very different. Almost nobody here thinks Flood is the right guy for the job. There are at most a large handful that might be in favor of retaining him as coach. Everybody else, the overwhelmingly vast majority are in agreement that we want a better coaching staff and that Flood's not the guy.
The problem is that there is a growing faction of that vast majority that seem unable to control their blood lust for Flood's firing. They constantly seek out any minute detail of Flood's behavior to demonize and pile on. And that faction attacks anybody that says anything that can be in any way loosely construed as less than 100% anti-Flood.
This faction of people is almost entirely unopposed about wanting to fire Flood. Yet the faction of Flood haters keeps making posts demonizing this imaginary enemy, the "Floodies". Putting aside the fact that people should have a right to support who they want without being attacked, virtually nobody is posting that Flood should stay. One or two people maybe. A statistical irrelevance.
At this point, the Flood bashing posts have moved beyond argument, because there's nobody left that any amount of argument here will convince, and are now all about lynching Flood or burning him in effigy. It's a lynch mob.
I hope so - I really do - but POSTERS here have flat-out told us that this class will "fall apart" should Flood be fired. I think it's pretty much bs - some kids WILL leave, no doubt - but these 2 having already "signed," despite all the negativity around Flood, lead me to believe that - thankfully - they're choice was "RUTGERS" and not just "Flood."
I think we went like 1 for 19 on kids offered by RU and PSU and committed to one of the schools
I was saying the kids love playing for Flood. That's the perception at least. You don't hear any grumbling like you used to with GS.
Dating back to when?
Here are kids that would be 5th year seniors now or younger....that according to Rivals had offers from both schools, and chose Rutgers
1.) Darius Hamilton
2.) Chris Muller (PA KID)
3.) Kamal Seymour
4.) JJ Denman (PA KID)
5.) Quanzell Lambert
6.) Savon Huggins
7.) Marquise Wright
8.) Miles Shuler
Are you silly enough to think that Flood walked up to a recruit while he was on the practice field and said, " I love you" . Obviously, he was repeating, F A M I L Y...... Forget about me, I love you. BUT, that does not make for a good article in PSU area.
NUTS........" Now you start using your head, that's that lump that's 3 feet above your azz "
I'm pretty sure we've gotten absolutely hammered, by PSU (head-to-head), the last 3 years (2014, 2015, and this class).
Kids love no rules and total freedom to do what they want. Some took advantage and robbed people.
There is absolutely nothing that could come out of Flood's mouth, and surprise me, at this point. We ARE talking about the moron who was quoted as saying "We decided we wouldn't take him out until the 4th quarter, regardless, so that's what we did."
Case closed IMHO.
exactly...with what we save seen from him on and off the field, how can anyone try to rationalize anything..we are not dealing with a full deck here. His decision making and management skills have been proven poor on multiple occasions
Actually yes 100% need to be against Flood...
Reading this....it goes to show that our recruiting fortunes would be much better with even minimum comptetence....
Our entrance to the B1G was wasted on Flood and RU needs to do something about it
Reading this....it goes to show that our recruiting fortunes would be much better with even minimum comptetence....
Our entrance to the B1G was wasted on Flood and RU needs to do something about it
SURE....Flood is so horrible compared to all the Horrible coaches in the history of College Football that he walks up to a recruit while he is practicing and says, " I love you" .
How is it possible that rational and smart (maybe not) people cannot tell that this was taken out of context and reported in a PSU area newspaper ????
the point is who knows with Flood, when he is capable of playing out a cloak and dagger routine in Princeton with a prof anything is possible
Yea, I know you can't get I like watching football. I also used to have NFL season tickets for a team I didn't like and even crazier, I hate golf but bought a house on a golf course.
You just typed a bunch of BS everyone on these boards loves watching football i guess you thought some would be impressed by the bs above to deflect how much of a psu fan you really are
He would have lost a close competition in camp, rotted on the bench no matter how badly the starter played, and by the time the season ended, message board posters would have turned him into the next Barry Sanders. Or, if he did wind up starting, he would be using all of his athletic ability to avoid unblocked 300 LB linemen screaming into the backfield the second the ball was snapped.
My fault, I should have clarified. I meant from the 2015 class. I believe the only PSU offered player we got a commitment from was Seymour, while PSU has like 17 kids with RU offers.
you seem to care about this more than anyone else. nobody else is in here writing novels, man. it's just you.
FYI, your groupings are entirely absurd: i hated the flood hire from the start, and yet i wasn't "constantly negative about anything football related" and yes i did in fact want to "enjoy the wins and put the losses behind us". i'm pretty sure every single person on this board wanted to do that. but you put people into your boxes where those who don't like flood are haters and extremists. ridiculous.
there is no "lynch mob" -- there is only a group of people that are more and more amazed that we're still paying this guy millions of dollars a year. and this is an interesting story that gives us an angle on flood's recruiting.
let's assume for a moment that he was stressing FAMILY and not just "i love you SB" (arguable)....... what does it say when the kid's coach only remembers "i love you"? flood was clearly doing something wrong. the guy is a dud. kyle dud.
