Schiano Poll
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Maybe we should bring Doug Graber back. He was a very good recruiter. He recruited Ray Lucas, Marco Battaglia, Bruce Presley, Terrill Willis, Forte, Higgins, Funderburk, Jay Belamy, Williams, Roberts, Swinger, Shawn Ohara, the Marcas brothers, all of these guys ended up in the NFL or a shot as free agents. There were others that I am forgetting.
I do not understand the love affair you guys have with Greg Schiano. His teams always under achieved because of Schiano's stubbornness.
SOme people prefer to go with a known commodity. He's not perfect, but he is a Former NFL head coach, He took us from basement to mediocrity. Maybe he could do better now with B10 in his recruiting pitch...maybe he learned from his past mistakes.
I personally would rather take that and have a proven figure head, than flood to be honest.
How much would Schiano be getting paid if we did have him back? You just know the SL would jump all over any sort of salary beyond Flood's.
The only former HC I'd bring back is Frank Burns.
Unfortunately circumstances preclude that from happening.
Unfortunately circumstances preclude that from happening.
Only rutgers fans would want to bring back a guy who never won a championship
I do not understand the love affair you guys have with Greg Schiano. His teams always under achieved because of Schiano's stubbornness.///////////////////
ALWAYS? 2006 top 10 finish was underachieving? We could go on but if one is unwilling to let facts get in the way, then they can always keep going in error.
ALWAYS? 2006 top 10 finish was underachieving? We could go on but if one is unwilling to let facts get in the way, then they can always keep going in error.
We finished 3rd that year and went to the Texas Bowl. I would hope we have higher aspirations. I thank Greg for all he did but I want a winner. Not close enough.
Agreed. Not to mention, he was getting killed in recruiting as recently as his 2nd to last year at Rutgers. Ten years into his tenure, he was getting destroyed by Pitt. That only changed when Pitt lost their whole coaching staff.
The Schiano recruiting success stories have to be viewed in light of the various coaches and players that came to Rutgers only after the staff they were committed to (or working for) was fired. One big player on that list is Ray Rice.
I think a lot of people forget the hype that existed going into some of the post-2006 seasons that resulted in quick disappointment. (Fresno State / Maryland / Cincinnati at least twice).
Rutgers can do better. There is a reason no other major school has seriously considered hiring Schiano -- it's because his resume is lacking.
According to Wikipedia, Rutgers finished 2006 ranked #12 in both polls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Rutgers_Scarlet_Knights_football_team
At least with Schiano I was proud to wear my Rutgers hat, I saw some pretty good football and went to some OK bowls (and won). Right now the future looks dim.
Oh, and anyone who thinks a big name coach is waiting for a phone call, think again. Even back when Schiano left, no one wanted to talk to us and then we were snubbed by Addazio and Cristobal which is how we ended up with Flood. No one in their right mind would take a job at this cluster f-ck of a Universities. Take a look at our President and AD...you wanna work for them? The 2 most spineless, disloyal, classless buffoons in D1 sports.
Oh, and anyone who thinks a big name coach is waiting for a phone call, think again. Even back when Schiano left, no one wanted to talk to us and then we were snubbed by Addazio and Cristobal which is how we ended up with Flood. No one in their right mind would take a job at this cluster f-ck of a Universities. Take a look at our President and AD...you wanna work for them? The 2 most spineless, disloyal, classless buffoons in D1 sports.
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All I remember was no Big East titles, embarrassing loses to Cincinnati and North Carolina and a coach walking out on us a week before we had our best recruiting class. I'm not a Flood guy but we need a big time coach.
Speaking of past history I think people forget the BE had some good coaches while Greg was hot. Rich Rod was at WV and then Michigan, Dantonio was at Cincy and then Michigan St. Kelly was at Cincy and then ND. Petrino was at Louisville and then Arky. Strong was at Louisville and then Texas. Heck even non BE Navy even had Paul Johnson (who beat RU one year) and Maryland had Fridge. UConn's Edsel went on to Maryland. The only really shitty coach was at SU. Even USF's Jim Leavitt was ok despite Schiano always beating him. The BE was a coaching hot bed for awhile
With schiano you had a very solid head guy. With the new schiano it will either be that or better because of added experience. If he doesn't win championships like so many of you guys are saying, then we can get someone else - this Rutgers football thing will be around for a long, long time. But to say it's not worth giving it a shot doesn't make sense.
I'd do it just to see some good defense again
And keep in mind - the guy was in his 30's and it was his first head coaching job. Pretty damn impressive Id say.
I'd do it just to see some good defense again
And keep in mind - the guy was in his 30's and it was his first head coaching job. Pretty damn impressive Id say.
The First 4 years of Schiano's tenure was getting Rutgers from being the absolutely worst team in America... Try recruiting on that. He ran a complete program and got us some integrity. He micromanaged because he had to.. No one was experienced. We had good days and bad. His recruiting classes got into the 30's from uncalculated. He was a dropped pass in 3 OT's from getting the championship...
Now it's Big Ten time, Greg could recruit before and now RU needs to shrug off the instability and stand up with the big guys. He can get us there because he knows how...
In the last 25 years he is the only guy that made me proud of RU football. He is an Ex NFL coach for the lowly Tampa Bay... You think it was Greg or an awful team?
Why experiment, Greg knows RU and Jersey...
Now it's Big Ten time, Greg could recruit before and now RU needs to shrug off the instability and stand up with the big guys. He can get us there because he knows how...
In the last 25 years he is the only guy that made me proud of RU football. He is an Ex NFL coach for the lowly Tampa Bay... You think it was Greg or an awful team?
Why experiment, Greg knows RU and Jersey...
I got news for you, just look around and you'll see the cheapest fan base in college football. They complain about $4 pretzels and contribute sh!t, so forget about a big time coach because...
IT AIN'T HAPPENING!!!! EVER!!!
Unless he signs a contract that forbids him from touching the O (okay, I'm only semi-kidding here, but there MUST be an "understanding") then my vote is "no" for now. I'd love for him to coach at another school - non P5 - and learn a little humility and to relax just a "tad," with some things like the press, first, before coming back to The Banks (and remember I was a fairly big Greg "guy"....).
People also forget attendance for RU games averaged around 22-24K a year when GS arrived. He moved ticket sales up over 20% a year so that by 2006 the place was selling out, and an addition to the stadium became possible.
But a lot of those coaches did not stay long and Schiano's record against most of them wasn't very good. Schiano doesn't get credit for never beating West Virginia just because Rich Rod coached there. When 2006 happened, the cream of the Big East had just left for the ACC the previous few years and some of the new members were still feeling their way in the new conference like we are in the B1G now.
As for bowl records, the Big East had poor bowl tie-ins which often meant that after the first team, which would go to a New Year's Day bowl, you had teams that would end up matched against schools lower in their conference than you were in yours. So the number three team in the Big East might end up playing the number five team in another conference. So when the Big East did well during the bowl season, it was usually a mirage. If Schiano came back, I doubt he would have as good a bowl record in the B1G simply because the matchups should be more even.
Nobody forgot what schiano did to build the program - what the Schiano supporters forget is his accomplishments are huge, and his quirks are bigger. HE comes at a price - I don't see us winning a lot of bigger games under him if he came back, his system just doesn't get "it". We'll be disciplined, have more stars next to our recruits, but he won't get good coordinators, would want a boatload of a deal, and we will be 4th or lower in our division every year. Now, if he has changed, and will want sharp coordinators, and give them leverage, it's a different situation
I don't think anyone forgets any of those things; I think people are very mindful of them when they say, "we thank you for your service, and we accept your resignation."
Well your post would imply that the fan base would do a worse job of selecting the head coach than our miserable administration. And your Avatar is confusing because I dont know if i can take you seriously or if you are trying to stir the pot.
Why have Boggs as an avatar?
Schiano isn't my first choice, but I wouldn't be against him coming back either.
Schiano would be a low risk, medium reward type hire. And would be a good program manager till such time as we can upgrade facilites, support and receive full big ten revenue for a better coach. Schiano made us into a solid Big East team year in and year out. In the big ten he would make us a solid big ten team year in and year out at the very least with no major off the field issues. All while recruiting NJ much better and locking out PSU from it more successfully. To me, if he is willing, it is a no brainer.
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Nick Saban? College coaches don't come better that Schiano. There are only a handful that may top him for success and charisma but none in NJ. Greg is a rock star coach who does it all. We need him a lot more than he needs us. We are so fortunate that he will be available for next season. Go Julie - lock him in and you will be a Rutgers legacy.
If it was not for him, we would have gotten beaten down by Temple or Navy in a conference game last week.
He deserves the chance to coach this team in the B1G and will end the off the field crap.
Who else with any BCS or P5 experience is coming here?
He deserves the chance to coach this team in the B1G and will end the off the field crap.
Who else with any BCS or P5 experience is coming here?
