I love him just for the fact he's so hated by Cuse fan's for very obvious reasons....they knew it was him and his charisma that put us past them as the local NYC team so much so they had to buy signs on cabs and at Yankee stadium....they couldn't buy a recruit around here and still have problems...their worst nightmare.
Schiano Poll
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I wish we could go back and see how many people here wishing Greg would come back were ripping him endlessly when he was here. I know of a few.
Too stubborn
Can't recruit NJ
Bad game day coach
Not the nice guy you think
Assistants stink
Plays favorites
Sound familiar?
Too stubborn
Can't recruit NJ
Bad game day coach
Not the nice guy you think
Assistants stink
Plays favorites
Sound familiar?
What do you guys want from coach Schiano? Seriously ask yourself the question before asking him to come back. Do you think you're going to win a Rose Bowl?? Do you think you're going to have 9 win seasons? Perhaps top 20 recruiting classes? He was here for 11 years and could not win a Big East Championship, he had two successful seasons 2005 (7-5 surprised everyone) & 2006 (10 win season).
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It's about two thirds for schiano and one third against. About what I expected actually.
Think he's learned a bit and will trust his staff more.
If we could replace Flood with Schiano at the end of this season, I'd sign up for that. I'd like to see what he could do with the Big10 as a selling point in recruiting. I would, though, like to see him hand the offense off to a competent coordinator (and maybe move toward a more exciting offense)...and have Greg concentrate on the defense.
wtf are you smoking. Schiano is good, but not that good. He couldn't even get it done in the Big East.
He is the reason we are in the B1G and have a nice stadium. He did something right.
The current stadium was built in 1994. You can only really credit Schiano with the expansion, and even that was a good part Mulcahy.
Completely different circumstances. You can't compare the two. The B1G is exactly the environment Schiano will prosper in. The man has a vision and can project and sell it. Something that is badly needed to get us out of the abyss.
I just don't get why people don't think he's learned anything or has changed at all over the years. He was hired very young. Are you the same person you were 10 years ago? Haven't you become better at your job over the years?
That's all the bum was able to do.
In all seriousness...us being in the B1G, any credit to Schiano?
I was a huge Greg guy. I remember a discussion here after he resigned where you talked me off the ledge lol.
I just don't think he's the answer ON THE FIELD. Now if the Schiano guys told me as you said he'd leave the offense alone, not demand that all DT's be 260lbs, and worry as much about how much RU pays the assistants as his own paycheck we may have a starting point.
People keep bringing up 2006 but seem to forget the team folded like a cheap suit at the end of the regular season. First the loss to Cincy, then the OT loss to WVU where the D didn't have an answer how to stop a backup QB.
Then there was Fresno, UNC, UMd, and the Cincy debacle the day the stadium reopened. He had the college football world on a string after 2006 but failed to capitalize on it.
And let's not forget he made mistakes recruiting kids too. Anyone remember the FB that never made it to campus because he was in jail? The DT who was muscle for a street gang? The fight on the sideline during the Navy game? Johnson and Stephenson were his recruits.
You can reasonably say Flood has to go. I just hope if RU replaces him, they don't look at one guy and ignore other candidates.
BTW, Schiano's last 3 years at RU = 22-16, Floods 1st 3 years = 23-16.
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Because he's getting paid not to coach. I think he's a better college coach than a gameday/nfl one. His weakest element was his gameday coaching, which is arguably the strongest part of the NFL game. His arguably strongest element was his developmental/recruiting skills, which are best showcased in college.
Sure. That's more than fair.
Does Flood deserve the same consideration for losing so many key players due to stuff beyond his control?
I hate feeling like I'm defending Flood but let's be fair, neither were the greatest thing since sliced bread.
If Schiano had no answers for Rich Rodriguez, Brian Kelly or D'Antonio, What makes you think he is going to have the answer for the coaches at the top of the Big Ten. In reality, Schiano will bring us to a decent level, but we will be at a huge disadvantage against the best teams. Which really gets you right back to where we were last year.
I would much rather see us get an offensive minded coach. I think that is the direction of football at all levels.
I would much rather see us get an offensive minded coach. I think that is the direction of football at all levels.
So basically you are suggesting bringing back Schiano as an interim coach for a few years. And I guess after he puts together a few 7 or 8 win seasons, for example, you would fire him and hire someone better.
I don't think that is really going to work. I don't know how you convince Schiano to take the job if he suspects that's the case. And I don't know how you hire someone to replace him.
Needed to win two more games after beating Louie and losing 2 ( Cincy & WV) out of the last 3 games left kept RU from a championship and BCS bowl bid.
Might not have been underachieving, but was disappointing only beating a 4 -8 Syracuse team (that had its 4 wins taken away because of NCAA violations) when RU needed two more conference wins of to be the BE's rep at a BCS Bowl Game
Beat Cincy or the Mountaineers that season and then call it a great year .
As it wound up, a good year but not as great as it could have been.
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Schiano since 05
1-1 against D'Antonio
5-1 against Edsall
1-0 against Franklin as coordinator
And I don't think more than 1 B1G coach has beaten Urban yet.
Love to see the breakdown of the ages of the voters. Yes numbers I sat in the grass and peed in the troughs. I bet most of the yes voters did too and few, if any of the no voters did.
The win against D'Antonio was in Cincinnati's first year in the Big East. D'Antonio is at Michigan State now which is currently ranked #2 in the country. Don't think that win is relevant to any future matchups in the B1G. The win over Kansas State isn't that meaningful, either. Franklin wasn't the head coach then and he's now at Penn State which is a much higher profile program than Kansas State. The only one of those W-L records that might mean something is the one against Edsall. But Edsall's at Maryland, who's most likely to be RU's competition for fourth place in the division for the next decade. So not really a big boost there in terms of an advantage.
Schiano was better than sliced bread. He did the impossible. The guy that turns around the basketball program.......
Can't believe this still has so much traction. He was an awesome fit the first time, built a program from nothing (with help from Bob, of course), but then plateaued. Never won a conference universally (and somewhat unfairly) regarded as the worst of the BCS leagues, padded his overall record with an awful nonleague schedule, had WTF losses even after he built the program, couldn't handle quarterbacks and had a mediocre conference record even if you eliminate the first four years.
Look, I don't think there are five coaches in America who could have done what he did from 2000 to 2006. But I think there are about a hundred who, having built the program during those years, could have done what he did from 2007 on.
Greg Schiano always will have a treasured place in Rutgers sports history. And that's where he should stay.
Look, I don't think there are five coaches in America who could have done what he did from 2000 to 2006. But I think there are about a hundred who, having built the program during those years, could have done what he did from 2007 on.
Greg Schiano always will have a treasured place in Rutgers sports history. And that's where he should stay.
