How can people still believe that this was a real threat? That was never going to happen. He was never going to accept an offer to coach at those places.
Schiano to OSU replacing Ash
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How can people still believe that this was a real threat? That was never going to happen. He was never going to accept an offer to coach at those places.
All we have to do is switch to a spread or air raid now and we gas Ohio State 9 times out of 10.
This seems like a pretty good read on it.
I don't buy that he was looking to stick it to Rutgers. Why would he? The guy was treated like a king there for a decade, and then left of his own volition. Is Rutgers supposed to keep the light on for him forever? Does anyone even know for sure he wanted to come back?
The guy hasn't coached for two full seasons, and exited the NFL as a spectacular disaster - not because of the record so much, but the way he was portrayed by folks in the NFL, for both his time with the Bucs and while still at Rutgers was really unflattering. No doubt it gave him a bit of a toxic aura, as he was passed up in interview after interview. he needed to work to stay current and viable, and being the associate head aoch and DC at Ohio State is a pretty good gig to get back in the game.
What does it mean for Rutgers? Minimal damage, I suspect. He's still got a lot of credibility in the high school community, but as has been said, it's not like Urban Meyer and OSU were chopped liver before hand.
So you weren't being sarcastic. LOL
First of all, you're assuming we offered the job. Secondly, even if he was offered, you're projecting some kind of psychotic personality disorder onto Schiano in that he couldn't handle the idea that RU wasn't waiting around on him to make a decision.
I think Schiano is probably reasonably healthy, psychologically. So I think he could deal w/rejection without uprooting his family across the country just so he could get "even" with RU for not waiting around for him.
This happening had actually crossed my mind since it kind of made sense. -GS could have probably come back to RU but he turned up his nose and showed little interest, (from what I read RU wasn't a big enough "name" for him any longer), then he gets stiffed on every HC opening he was interested in, and as result, because of his relationship with Urban Meyer, he slides into the vacant DC position at tOSU with the idea of rebuilding his image in order to eventually land another college head coaching gig.
Like some others have mentioned though, I don't view this as some sort of cataclysm. tOSU is one of those programs that can recruit on its name alone, (of course, it also helps having one of the best HC's in the country at the helm). They recruit nationally and just like everybody else, they can only take so many players, and GS being there isn't going to change that. -And our new HC strikes me as being a guy who doesn't back down from anyone in recruiting, and Schiano possibly being on tOSU's staff isn't going to make CA run away and hide either.
Like some others have mentioned though, I don't view this as some sort of cataclysm. tOSU is one of those programs that can recruit on its name alone, (of course, it also helps having one of the best HC's in the country at the helm). They recruit nationally and just like everybody else, they can only take so many players, and GS being there isn't going to change that. -And our new HC strikes me as being a guy who doesn't back down from anyone in recruiting, and Schiano possibly being on tOSU's staff isn't going to make CA run away and hide either.
Schiano returning to Rutgers would be bad for both Rutgers and Schiano. You are living in the past and trying to pretend the past 4 years didn't happen. Well it did, so get over it. If you thought the events of the past week positioned Rutgers to be the front runner in the Big East then I guess today's news is crippling for you. If you closed your eyes and didn't see the embarrassment that was the Schiano tampa bay bucs coaching tenure then why open your eyes to today's headlines. Go back to sleep an keep dreaming of the day when Schiano's best will be THE best...
Naturally. But if Urban is leaving for the NFL (as posited by the post above that mild was responding to), it's going to be sooner than later. As in, after this coming season or the next.
Moot points anyway, as he's not leaving for the NFL. He'll be at Ohio State until he retires, at which point the coaching landscape will look much different as Herman, Schiano and probably a few other current or future assistants will have head coaching/different head coaching jobs.
Don't overlook that if Ash is a rousing success that Ohio State might give him a call within the next decade to gauge his interest either...
Except that Fridge, when asked at some point about that very thing, more or less ridiculed the question. He said something along the lines of how he wanted to beat MD, but no more or less than he wanted to beat anybody else RU played that season.
Even if we officially offered Schiano, which I doubt, he didn't want to come here. So there's just no motivation for him wanting to "stick" it to RU other than that we're a team on the schedule and he wants to stick it to all of us equally.
Plus with Greg not showing up at Don Bosco when he left for Tampa left a bad taste in North Jersey Parochial coaches mouths.
So, you wanted him to shoot by DB on the day the news broke that he was leaving to coach in the NFL? I can guarantee you that no NJ coaches would give that a second thought. Some of you guys are absolutely clueless.
From what ive heard/believe there are a lot of high school coaches in NJ who are at best indifferent on Schiano to really, really disliking him. This move doesn't really worry me.
First of all Greg probably will be co-DC unless Urban gets rid of Luke Fickell who was the co-OC with Ash for the last 2 years and has been a co: DC for the Buckeyes since 2005, except in 2011 when he was OSU's HC. Meyer could drop him down , but don't see him doing that to Luke because Finkell played for the Buckeyes and has been an assistant there since 2002 and completely loyal to the program.
I look at this as a one year deal so Schiano can get back on the HC radar of the P-5 schools
and make it easier for him to get a shot at a P-5 job after next season or go to the pros as a DC
for the 2017 season.
Money being paid as the Buckeyes DC might not be as high as we might think it would be, because Schiano will still be getting his money from Tampa till Dec. of 2016 and what he makes as OSU's DC will be deducted from the $3 mil the Bucs have to pay him for the 2016 season.
It's a good move by Urban in keeping his D great and a redemption move by Greg to make himself more desirable as a HC for the P-5 schools.
Also helps with Florida recruiting because Greg should still have connections there and in NJ.
Will Muschamp was Auburn's DC for a year before being hired as HC by USCe , now Greg's going the same route.
Note: I argued with Knightmoves about whether Greg would get a P-5 HC position or not.
He claimed DC at one and not HC, I said HC .
So to keep my word , I said if it happened I would admit he was right, Knightmoves was right
about Schiano settling for a DC position because he wouldn't be hired as a HC when he did get a job.
I believe if you say something about being willing to admit you were wrong and/or someone was right you should keep your word or not have said it at all.
Ignoring the issue so you don't have to admit your were wrong is not the right thing to do in my opinion. So that's why I just posted this note.
I look at this as a one year deal so Schiano can get back on the HC radar of the P-5 schools
and make it easier for him to get a shot at a P-5 job after next season or go to the pros as a DC
for the 2017 season.
Money being paid as the Buckeyes DC might not be as high as we might think it would be, because Schiano will still be getting his money from Tampa till Dec. of 2016 and what he makes as OSU's DC will be deducted from the $3 mil the Bucs have to pay him for the 2016 season.
It's a good move by Urban in keeping his D great and a redemption move by Greg to make himself more desirable as a HC for the P-5 schools.
Also helps with Florida recruiting because Greg should still have connections there and in NJ.
Will Muschamp was Auburn's DC for a year before being hired as HC by USCe , now Greg's going the same route.
Note: I argued with Knightmoves about whether Greg would get a P-5 HC position or not.
He claimed DC at one and not HC, I said HC .
So to keep my word , I said if it happened I would admit he was right, Knightmoves was right
about Schiano settling for a DC position because he wouldn't be hired as a HC when he did get a job.
I believe if you say something about being willing to admit you were wrong and/or someone was right you should keep your word or not have said it at all.
Ignoring the issue so you don't have to admit your were wrong is not the right thing to do in my opinion. So that's why I just posted this note.
This guy can't do no wrong to some here. Th is is the guy who left Rutgers hanging by a thread at the latest date possible. His job is OSU DC. He dont, or at least shouldn't, give a rats ass about Rutgers now.
Can the Schianoites can finally get it through their heads that his job is to beat Rutgers on the field and in recruiting whenever possible???
Contrary to what Areyounuts said, above he won't be selling "the State of Ohio to recruits and coaches but rather the chance to play in the national championship game, which RU will only see on tv so long as meyer & Schiano are at OSU.
Dude I'm anti Schiano. Just relax this hire for OSU isn't the end of the world.
Good reading. All the Schiano lovers' heads are exploding. I don't know how OSU's superstar players will like Schiano's style. I think this will work out in Rutgers' favor.
You totally missed the point. No one was asking him to show up. He could of at least told the coaches who did. Or rescheduled.
tOSU fans are happy with the hire, general feelings is that we got an experienced DC who coaches a aggressive defense.
I'm cool, lol. I think OSU recruits itself anyway with/without Urban or Schiano. The fact that there's at least 5 Schiano to OSU threads is funny as hell. Give the new guy a chance... Sheesh, lol
Rutgers never had a dominate defensive line so he blitzed with the defensive backs and linebackers. His special teams were also one of the best blocking punts.
I think Rutgers won't get hurt by Schiano recruiting since Ohio State is only interested in the Top 3 recruits in NJ and we don't compete in that arena.
I'm a huge Schiano fan.
I don't see this as anything but business.
Good hire by Meyer. Good move for Greg, as others have said it's similar to Kiffin at Bama.
For us it changes nothing. This is big boy football. Recruiting is always going to be a war. Greg is a good recruiter. So is HCCA.
I don't see this as anything but business.
Good hire by Meyer. Good move for Greg, as others have said it's similar to Kiffin at Bama.
For us it changes nothing. This is big boy football. Recruiting is always going to be a war. Greg is a good recruiter. So is HCCA.
Will be an interesting match up now on Oct 1, 2016. 28 year old spread offense coordinator at Rutgers vs former RU head coach and NFL head coach.
