I am glad to be wrong here, at least think i am wrong.
The difference between this as a loss or a win is so wide that we will almost know how they dealt with it when the bracket is revealed. It is a full +2 in games over .500
agreed...Add we aren't playing well now but you never know...Play great D and maybe we upset someone and see what happens...Gotta be in it to win it48 hours of controversy and then no one will remember it again but us and maybe a few teams that got the 1 seed in the NIT. We still get a banner and we still make it to the dance.
This is my thought. They may be getting this out there so when we're sent to Dayton people aren't stunned. They are already letting people know now why.Got to follow the story. I am sure other bracket guys will weigh in on what they think this means.
I am guessing this means we are penciled in. A bad loss to Michigan (which seems inevitable) probably still gets us to Dayton at least
BAC the fan is super excited.
BAC the backetologist has coffee spilled everywhere as he pounded his fist on his credenza (sp?) spilling his 24 ounce cup of coffee.
It's pretty obvious what is meant by the statement, as "consider it as a loss" would be rendered nugatory given that it is already in the books as a loss. The context makes it clear it is a positive for us.Yes wording - “they will consider their loss” as in consider it as a loss and not a win? Or “consider their loss” as in consider the circumstances of the loss and treat it as a win if it absolutely came down to it Team X vs Team Y for the last spot?
Imagine being pathetic enough to think like this.All the negative press we'd get for sneaking in despite an end-of-season collapse wouldn't be worth another First Four appearance (and likely loss) in my book.
Dave, there is literally no universe in which it would be better to not make the NCAA tournament - long term, short term or medium term - none.In a way it’d almost be better long term to not get selected if we lose to Michigan. The controversy plus if we lose the first four game will make the narrative “Rutgers didn’t belong in the NCAA tournament” and you don’t want that thought on peoples mind in future years
You are not familiar with Aaron Breitman? Definitely recommend you follow him as an RU fan. He’s part of the media that follows the team. Always part of post game press interview session. Provides great analysis in different forms including the The Scarlet Faithful.I’m not familiar with this guy, is he reliable and actually have “sources”?
maybe, but OK a Q2 win is better than a lossand keep in mind. A major reason OSU is currently quad 1..is cause they beat Rutgers. If committee doesn’t wanna consider this a RU loss…it’s not a OSU win…and likely isn’t a Q1 win for RU.
and keep in mind. A major reason OSU is currently quad 1..is cause they beat Rutgers. If committee doesn’t wanna consider this a RU loss…it’s not a OSU win…and likely isn’t a Q1 win for RU.
this makes a big difference, with a loss i was thinking maybe 20% chance now its at least 50/50Very unlikely we get in with a loss Thursday. Just be aware.
Leather jacket… White T-shirt, sweater vest….Devastatingly handsomeYou are not familiar with Aaron Breitman?
Can’t keep track of everyone haha. But this is good to know, thanks.You are not familiar with Aaron Breitman? Definitely recommend you follow him as an RU fan. He’s part of the media that follows the team. Always part of post game press interview session. Provides great analysis in different forms including the The Scarlet Faithful.
because it would directly (and exclusively) affect other conference members - they are not going that far. All said, I think this is better than most on here seem to want to believe. We are in the tournament (probably dayton if we lose thursday, though I still think we sneak in as the last 11 bye).if the Big 10 felt so strongly why didnt they give that a consideration in the conference tournament seeding.
this makes a big difference, with a loss i was thinking maybe 20% chance now its at least 50/50
He’s a good one out there.Can’t keep track of everyone haha. But this is good to know, thanks.
Aware that we're in regardless. Committee probably made their decision prior to the game.Very unlikely we get in with a loss Thursday. Just be aware.
I doubt the committee would institute subsequent ripples if the win was awarded to us--there's only so much they can consider with the myriad scenarios of all possible teams for invitation to the tourny. When the B1G announced that the shot shouldn't have counted and we should have won the game, I suggested that rather than subverting the nature of refereeing by switching the result, the B1G could have kept the win in tOSU's column, which likely would have placated the refs union, AND awarded us a win, which would have been deferential to the actual result. It's messy when these things happen, but it can be remedied by the NCAA committee, since the regular season is all about getting into the tourny. tOSU isn't in even with the win against us, so they've got no beef with a win being assigned to us at this juncture. In fact, they'd love it if it kept Michigan out.and keep in mind. A major reason OSU is currently quad 1..is cause they beat Rutgers. If committee doesn’t wanna consider this a RU loss…it’s not a OSU win…and likely isn’t a Q1 win for RU.
if the Big 10 felt so strongly why didnt they give that a consideration in the conference tournament seeding.
Said this the day after the OSU game. The conference officially acknowledging this was very important.The only reason why I think this is important is that if the big ten admits they messed up, the tournament committee can/should take that into account when evaluating the result of this game. If the conference stays silent, we probably don’t get that benefit.
If they decide to take that next step, which I doubt they would. When the B1G announced that the shot shouldn't have counted and we should have won the game, I suggested that rather than subverting the nature of refereeing by switching the result, the B1G could have kept the win in tOSU's column, which likely would have placated the refs union, and awarded us a win, which would have been deferential to the actual result. It's messy when these things happen, but it can be remedied by the NCAA committee, since the regular season is all about getting into the tourny. tOSU isn't in even with the win against us, so they've got no beef with a win being assigned to us at this juncture. In fact, they'd love it if it kept Michigan out.
So Bac is confirming that it would have been a quad 1 win.lol....we lose by 1, we would have won by 2, the net wasnt going to change either way
Aware that we're in regardless. Committee probably made their decision prior to the game.
But @bac2therac is always right.You have every right to say “I told you so” and there’s a lot of proud people in that thread that couldn’t be bothered by your “ridiculous question” that now turned out to be true
Oh now there is a difference in high quad 1 wins and middle and low quad 1 wins ?? Is this a new metric someone like brad just came up with ?? WtfAgree with Brad.
Oh now there is a difference in high quad 1 wins and middle and low quad 1 wins ?? Is this a new metric someone like brad just came up with ?? Wtf
They made a statement that the shot shouldn't have counted.But the big ten never announced we should have won the game. Why would they have awarded us a win?
They made a statement that the shot shouldn't have counted.
Yes, that statement is like a Rorschach test.Maybe I’m off the mark, but that does not seem positive to me. I read that to mean that the committee will include the loss in its review.
Essentially they did with saying that the shot should not have counted… without officially changing the game result. From the conference view, they don’t want to establish a precedent where they reverse results of games after the fact. Would create a nightmare for the conference going forward with all the games that go down to the buzzer. Instead, they unofficially announced publicly that the officials screwed up which was very important to do so without creating additional controversy by reversing a game result.But the big ten never announced we should have won the game. Why would they have awarded us a win?
So in Wachtel’s mind, we would have been a lock with a road win at Minnesota, but a road win at Ohio State (a better team in the metrics) wouldn’t have mattered?
Meaningless if it’s a quad 1 win for us. What’s important is that the committee consider it a win.and keep in mind. A major reason OSU is currently quad 1..is cause they beat Rutgers. If committee doesn’t wanna consider this a RU loss…it’s not a OSU win…and likely isn’t a Q1 win for RU.