Quibbling there. We were dominated and barely managed to score.
Signs our program is getting stronger
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Quibbling there. We were dominated and barely managed to score.
Hey...I'm a RUTGERS fan.....been one since the Sixties. So I'm sorta an expert on blowouts.
28-3 is NOT a blowout.
NO one would say we blew out Norfolk State if we had beaten THEM 28-3.
I swear some on this board live to downplay our strengths and blow way out of proportions our weaknesses.
Pretty sad.
Assume we come up just short against Indiana and your whole perspective in this changes. It's a razor thin line right now as to which side of the fence we are going to fall on this year. If we keep OSU respectable then I am bullish for rest of year and agree with OP. If another thrashing then I am afraid we could spiral.
So define the term "blowout" then. Is it getting beat by 4 or 5 touchdowns, as was the case versus OSU, MSU and Wisconsin last year? At best, being held to a field goal in a 28-3 loss to Penn State is an ass-kicking.
Going from 6-7 to a 8-5 season then to a 5-7 season is not going in the right direction.
I am not alone who has a huge concern on the Defense depth / talent for next year.
Losing our best LB Gause and LB Lewis and DE Mera and DE Lambert is going to be tough. Hopefully Hamilton comes back and will be at 100%. If not , yikes .
DE Lambert comes back next year along with Hamilton who is redshirting this year. LB is a concern because you lose 2 of the 3 starters, but overall just about everyone is back in the 2 deep. 19 of the 22 return, so that a good base to start with.
Not winning either the Washington State game or Penn State has changed the overall look for season. Getting to 6 wins is very difficult now. Rutgers now has to pull upsets either on Nebraska, Michigan or Wisconsin to have a realistic chance at reaching 6 wins and postseason.
Not winning either the Washington State game or Penn State has changed the overall look for season. Getting to 6 wins is very difficult now. Rutgers now has to pull upsets either on Nebraska, Michigan or Wisconsin to have a realistic chance at reaching 6 wins and postseason.
The showing against TTFP was atrocious. It was the third time in B1G play we didn't even get in the end zone.
To lose to your biggest recruiting rival in such a way is fireable in and of itself at probably 1/3 of the p5.
To lose to your biggest recruiting rival in such a way is fireable in and of itself at probably 1/3 of the p5.
28-3 is in fact a blowout. I am the biggest apologist out there but that is just plain out not looking at the truth.
With that said...we could discuss that game and reasons why it may have happened. I believe on a neutral field with both teams full strength, it is pretty much a draw. On that day, their crowd and atmosphere was beyond extrodenary. We had the Floid and Carroo suspensions and you could see we did not have a pulse.
I wouldn't doubt that OSU ends up beating us by 25 too but, I would bet that we look much more alive then we did at PSU.
I hate losing to PSU but in the big picture, that game may not tell the story.
Guess what with something else, WSU just may not suck this year.
Let's see how this plays out. OSU, Mich, Neb, Wisconsin roll us- then horrible season. Competitive in 3 of 4 and maybe steal a game and beat and and Army- then 6 wins would be a huge improvement over last year's 7.
All hypothetical but if it did happen, you would have to be blinded by something not to see a progress.
With that said...we could discuss that game and reasons why it may have happened. I believe on a neutral field with both teams full strength, it is pretty much a draw. On that day, their crowd and atmosphere was beyond extrodenary. We had the Floid and Carroo suspensions and you could see we did not have a pulse.
I wouldn't doubt that OSU ends up beating us by 25 too but, I would bet that we look much more alive then we did at PSU.
I hate losing to PSU but in the big picture, that game may not tell the story.
Guess what with something else, WSU just may not suck this year.
Let's see how this plays out. OSU, Mich, Neb, Wisconsin roll us- then horrible season. Competitive in 3 of 4 and maybe steal a game and beat and and Army- then 6 wins would be a huge improvement over last year's 7.
All hypothetical but if it did happen, you would have to be blinded by something not to see a progress.
Nuts, you may not want to watch the OSU game and be near a keyboard for at least 72 hours. There is a real possibility that OSU gets close to 1000 yards and 70 points on this defense. Definitely not out of the realm of possibility. No way RU beats the Barrett led OSU team. Moral victory if we can keep it within 2 TDs all game long. Just the way it is right now.
I'm absolutely certain that if Rutgers had beaten Norfolk St. or Kansas or Indiana by a score of 28-3 no one here would have called it a blowout. But if RU loses 28-3 it was a blowout.
RU sure has its share of unique fans.
kbee- you know I am as big of a positiod as there is but 4 scores is in fact a blowout. If we beat any team by 4 scores and fans said we didn't blow them out, I would also say they are wrong too.
Yeah, well if OSU beats my pop warner team by 25, that's not a blowout, if they beat Alabama by 25 it is.
C'mon.....you know this board is like a High School with Zero Tolerance rules. There is no gray area.....Like everthing else here there must be no interpretation.......A blowout must be clearly defined as a certain amount of point/yardage differential regardless of the opponent.
well read the two posts directly above for more insight. Looks like a lot more people get the point we're making here ...
We were blown by PSU. 28-3 is a blowout. But the question you need to ask is, have we improved as a team since then? The answer to that is yes and there is significant improvement on both sides off the ball since then. That is a positive. If we continue to improve at this rate (a big IF) we should be able to get to 6 wins and a bowl game (maybe even 7 wins with a bowl win).
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So I went out to one of the area's juice joints last night. Big mistake as it was full of loser Mets fans. But I had to go as it was my birthday and my buds wanted to buy me a drink or three. Well, I told them about this thread and we decided to conduct an informal poll amongst the patrons of that establishment as to whether or not 28-3 was a blowout. It was almost unanimous. It was a nice sized crowd and almost everyone agreed that Rutgers may indeed have played poorly but they wouldn't call it a blowout. Some even said things about self-loathing Rutgers fans. I think the final tally was something like the score we were asking about....32-4. Of course that's if you wanna count that one guy with the Mets cap and the UConn sweatshirt sitting by himself picking his nose. He said it WAS a blowout and that Rutgers SUCKS. The more he talked about RU the more he sounded like some of the posters in this thread.
BTW, most of the respondents said that if you wanted to see what a REAL blowout looked like you should watch the RU-Ohio State game this Saturday night.
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Before the season I was adamant that we absolutely had to win 8 games to say the program was moving in the right direction. But now, after all the stuff that has happened in the last month would 5 or 6 wins (with 1 blowout loss) be terrible? Lost our best defensive player, best offensive player for 3 games, our 3 best cornerbacks, best safety, and even the head coach for 3 games. I doubt there's more than 15 programs out there that can go through that and win 8 games. Show me progress from Laviano, improvement from the young secondary, and no more blowout losses and I won't be in full panic mode.
I don't think anyone here is saying we didn't totally get dominated by Penn State, but I have a hard time calling a 28-3 score a "blowout".
To me, a football blowout entails one of the teams scoring a bunch/relentlessly, and 4 touchdowns over 4 quarters just doesn't cut it IMO. Maybe it's that there are so many horrible mismatches/teams playing lower division schools that I'm desensitized to seeing scores of 64-14, 49-10, etc. each and every week. But if I'm looking at the ESPN scroll and I see a score of 28-3, it just doesn't jump out to me as a blowout. My take is more like "One team was dominated defensively, and just couldn't score."
To me, a football blowout entails one of the teams scoring a bunch/relentlessly, and 4 touchdowns over 4 quarters just doesn't cut it IMO. Maybe it's that there are so many horrible mismatches/teams playing lower division schools that I'm desensitized to seeing scores of 64-14, 49-10, etc. each and every week. But if I'm looking at the ESPN scroll and I see a score of 28-3, it just doesn't jump out to me as a blowout. My take is more like "One team was dominated defensively, and just couldn't score."
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