Well Gail Goestenkors is back coaching as an assistant at Kentucky. She had a nice run and Duke as head coach and success at Texas before taking time off. One of the bigger names that is likely available.
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If she has the coaching fire back, she deserves a look-see.
Ger great record at Duke makes her deserve to be considered .
Funny thing is, despite her success at duke, never won the NC.
But we must remember after she left Duke her time as the Texas HC didn't go nearly as well
Also hasn't been a college HC in 10years after leaving Texas citing she was tired and wanted to take a break from coaching.
Agree….being an assistant at Kentucky may be a way for her to see if she has the desire to be back in coaching. Didn’t know she hadn’t won an NC at Duke.
At the time when I calculated that RU was about the 9th best program over a period of time by a whole bunch of metrics (about a year after our 2007 Final Four I think it was) I found that Duke was better. I don't remember if they were significantly better by the bulk of the metrics, it was a long time ago, but I remember being struck by their ranking.
Duke, in other words, was better than Rutgers at a time when Rutgers was at its peak.
That said, Gail isn't young. She might be a good choice to bring some order and success back to the program, but probably isn't a long term future coach.
Agreed I think Gail would be a fantastic option. Stabilize the program, create separation (never easy to replace a hall of famer), bring back a fun transition offense and mentor a coaching staff that can invigorate the team and fans alike.
Didn’t realize those stats about Duke which do speak favorably for Gail’s ability as a HC, according to her bio she is 58. Definitely young enough to come in and stabilize the program and get it going in the right direction again though have to be concerned about potential burn out given her departure from Texas.
Bringing in order and credibility is going to be needed.
At 58 Gail has enough years left to make RU into a respectable program, but I think we'll probably wind up wit the Texas Gail rather then the Duke powerhouse Goestenkors coached
But that would be a good start on the path to future excellence we all want for the RU WBB program
Top notch assistants will be a must in order for Gail to succeed.
Also a respected name like Goestenkors will take the sting out of forcing out a well respected HOF JC if Stranger forces Hobbs to do it
That's if Hobbs wants to replace CVS a HC.
Yes, G. Goestenkors deserves consideration off of huge HOF-level success at Duke. The Texas results are what worry me with going in this direction. She was not able to recruit there like she did at Duke. Would she be able to recruit at RU?
Her 5 seasons there yielded similar NCAA results to ours. over the last 4 seasons.....lots of first round exits.
Since she leaves questions and is not a slam dunk option, I would lean more toward a candidate who is popular with the young players they would need to recruit. Yep, here I go again.lol A Kristi Tolliver, Becky Hammon, Kara Lawson type coach would be great for RU. Basketball minds, success at every level, experience up to the highest of levels(NBA, USA Basketball, etc.). Also, they can bring great assistants with them due to their many connections.
Another thing that would give me pause on Gail......Although K. Elzy is the Kentucky HC, Gail was brought in to help their situation along. They don't look good at all so far this year. I don't know how they hold onto a top 25 ranking. Haven''t been competitive against good teams with exception of a win over Georgia.
Her 5 seasons there yielded similar NCAA results to ours. over the last 4 seasons.....lots of first round exits.
Since she leaves questions and is not a slam dunk option, I would lean more toward a candidate who is popular with the young players they would need to recruit. Yep, here I go again.lol A Kristi Tolliver, Becky Hammon, Kara Lawson type coach would be great for RU. Basketball minds, success at every level, experience up to the highest of levels(NBA, USA Basketball, etc.). Also, they can bring great assistants with them due to their many connections.
Another thing that would give me pause on Gail......Although K. Elzy is the Kentucky HC, Gail was brought in to help their situation along. They don't look good at all so far this year. I don't know how they hold onto a top 25 ranking. Haven''t been competitive against good teams with exception of a win over Georgia.
Hey, also noticed a new name in this thread. Scarlet Craig. It made me think about someone who I'm sure would love to be considered for the spot here at RU. He's been around for a while now, putting in time on a few notable staffs. Our very own ........Craig Carter. Played at RU back in the 80s?? I believe. Has been on Big Ten WB coaching staff at Wisconsin or Nebraska, I get them mixed up sometimes. Currently saw him on sideline with Florida State WB coaching staff.
Not suggesting he's the choice, just good to see an old familiar face have staying power like he has had. As far as I can remember, he was a role player that I didn't expect to see pursue coaching at this level.
Not suggesting he's the choice, just good to see an old familiar face have staying power like he has had. As far as I can remember, he was a role player that I didn't expect to see pursue coaching at this level.
Craig has been an assistant for 20 years, long time assistants moving up into a HC positions scare me, no matter what the connection to program is.
To fix this mess a candidate needs to have HC experience , in my opinion.
Just curious.......I know that Lawson and Hammon have taken jobs already, but if they were available now, you wouldn't go with either one of them because they hadn't been head coaches?
Lawson probably not. because of a lack coaching experience.
Duke can take the gamble because Joanne McCallie (330–107) left a stable program,
But must admit it was starting to look like going on the downward path
Though Duke is doing well under Kara, this mess here will take a more established hand.
Last year I might think different, but the mess now needs more experience at the HC level
because of how quickly the program deteriorated without CVS running it.
Becky Hammon would have been a good gamble last year as well.
But the lack of college coaching credentials and never been a HC makes me feel
she would be hampered by both them things and Rutgers needs more than a good assistant learening on the job as a college HC at a troubled college program without even experience college assistant experience.
Point taken about experience. I just think that either way, former HC or first year HC, they both have equal chances of success or not. A lot of HCs go from success at one place to not so much at another, if not totally flopping after big expectations based on previous job. I guess i'm leaning toward trying to land one of the next generation of HOF coaches before they end up somewhere else.
I would take a chance on the person who happens to be most impressive as a leader and has a personality that is best suited for our program and today's player.....along with all that other stuff that Lawson, Hammon, and Tolliver have on their resumes.
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I still think it's an overreaction to say that the program has deteriorated or is troubled. That suggests more serious matters that do take time to repair and are better suited for an experienced HC. That would be things like a scandal-ridden program, poor reputation, roster completely decimated, shabby substandard facilities, etc.
We have a coaching problem but not a program problem,.....at this point. if the coaching problem is not resolved in a timely manner(preferably before the end of the season, if possible) then we could end up with a decimated roster at worst. But even then, the program is not in a shambles. Our players are still handling business in the classroom, they are model student-athletes as far as we know. The interim coach is just stinking it up. Doesn't mean that the program is rubble.
A new coach can come in next year, retain our young talent, bring their own followers through the portal(which is program changer-friendly now) to round out the team until they can get a few of their own recruiting classes in. By next season, we could be a team in the mix of things(Top 20) very easily, depending on the coach we pick. That's because the program infrastructure will still be in tact. We play in a respected conference that can attract players for the new coach.
It doesn't have to be a gradual long-term rebuild.
We have a coaching problem but not a program problem,.....at this point. if the coaching problem is not resolved in a timely manner(preferably before the end of the season, if possible) then we could end up with a decimated roster at worst. But even then, the program is not in a shambles. Our players are still handling business in the classroom, they are model student-athletes as far as we know. The interim coach is just stinking it up. Doesn't mean that the program is rubble.
A new coach can come in next year, retain our young talent, bring their own followers through the portal(which is program changer-friendly now) to round out the team until they can get a few of their own recruiting classes in. By next season, we could be a team in the mix of things(Top 20) very easily, depending on the coach we pick. That's because the program infrastructure will still be in tact. We play in a respected conference that can attract players for the new coach.
It doesn't have to be a gradual long-term rebuild.
New coach has to be willing to be a major part of the New Jersey youth/high school girls basketball community. We can not continue to throw tons of money into a canyon for 1,400 (or less) fans.
Just to clarify for a lot of posters making comments about GG at Texas. There is back-story there. It actually has a remote RU connection. I suspect if you dig around, you can find it mentioned somewhere.
In any case, ultimately she couldn't really recruit there. And that situation was reportedly made intentionally worse by those who felt that she didn't "belong" there. Not part of the Conradt coaching tree, from an elite East Coast institution, etc.
I don't discount the burn-out, but the modest success, yes, I am not concerned.
In any case, ultimately she couldn't really recruit there. And that situation was reportedly made intentionally worse by those who felt that she didn't "belong" there. Not part of the Conradt coaching tree, from an elite East Coast institution, etc.
I don't discount the burn-out, but the modest success, yes, I am not concerned.
Interestingly enough after checking Houston's website, she was promoted to associate HC in 2018 but is no longer there. Rutgers connection: Houston HC Hughey was briefly an assistant under Stringer after the 2007FF team. He spent a number of years as the top assistant at Florida St before taking the Houston job.
Shauna Green - Women's Basketball Coach - University of Dayton Athletics
Dayton women's basketball head coach Shauna Green is in her sixth season in charge of the Flyers' program. Green was named the Flyers' head women's basketball
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Sign me up for giving her whatever she wants. Has Big Ten experience. Hope Hobbs reads this site or has one of his assistants read it.
I watched this game. Tim Eatmon still doesn't know what player rotations work best 20 games into the season. He makes bad substitutions, plays the wrong mix of players together and does not know how to adjust to the other teams offensive and defensive moves. When CVS returns, she needs to relieve him of his duties on the coaching staff, his poor coaching has damaged the team almost beyond repair. Its obvious the players do not like playing for him and do not respond well to him. Lord helps us recover for next season, this is truly heart breaking to see a Rutgers team play so bad. CVS you must come back!
Don’t think there is a way for CVS to come back from this. Time for a change.
Hobbs has a history of hiring "up and comers" from smaller time programs in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic region. Jury out on such hires, but trending positive in some sports (Volleyball, Gymnastics, Baseball, and to a lesser extent right now, Mens Basketball). Anyone interesting in that set of smaller schools?
I am a UD alum and a contributor to the UD women's basketball program (I am also a long time RU web season's ticket holder) Shauna Green is an excellent coach and a wonderful person. I would love to see her at RU, but selfishly, I also love seeing her coach at Dayton. I doubt she would be Hobbs first choice though as I think he will try to get Chelsey Newton (who I am fine with). I am a big supporter of CVS, but I don't believe she will be back as our head coach and I wish we could replace Tim as he is definitely not the right man for the job.. I feel bad for him having to manage a team comprised of so many transfers. Look what just happened to Chris Mack (men's coach at Louisville). His team of mostly transfers didn't want to play for him and got him ousted. Tim was put in a tough situation, but he wasn't up to the challenge, So he needs to go. I do not believe that we would have no wins in conference under CVS. She would have been able to manage getting the transfers to play together as a team.
Sounds promising.Shauna Green - Women's Basketball Coach - University of Dayton Athletics
Dayton women's basketball head coach Shauna Green is in her sixth season in charge of the Flyers' program. Green was named the Flyers' head women's basketball
Their OOC scheduling was more impressive than ours.
Please. Give me break on wanting CVS back. That ship has hopefully sailed.
This can't get resolved soon enough. We have done a major disservice to the members of the women's team by allowing this to go unaddressed for this long.
That ship has 100% sailed and as we said previously should have sailed awhile ago.
Hobbs is already working on new candidates he is not a stupid man
I’m keeping an eye on Ashley Langford, the Stoney Brook coach. This is her first year and she has them 17-2. Maybe in a couple of years after CVS retires.
In a couple of years?! What do we do in the interim?
Have to disagree. We need a well seasoned big name coach to begin to rebuild, and recruit. We lose 8, 8 players if not more. Not sure at this juncture who would even want to come to this mess.
I’m just being realistic. CVS won’t be fired. But I’m sure she’ll retire in a year or two.
I have to believe at this point she may not be able to come back for some serious reason.
If CVS we’re to come back and you were a recruit with multiple good options, would you commit to RU given the dumpster fire of a season we are having, CVS age, her sitting out part of last year due to health concerns and sitting out this entire season due to health?/Covid concerns. If you are being honest the answer is No.
