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T-Shirt ideas for PSU game?

While I understand your sentiment you must have missed the part in that post where I said the Vast majority of their fan base Agrees with you. The Paterno Truthers group is a small group compared to the size of their overall fanbase, and some players who are in denial about the man who treated them like a son.

I get what you are saying, but, in my humble opinion, wearing a t-shirt proclaiming that Joe Knew, or the cuddly bear logo does nothing to help the victims or a Great Academic University (yes they are ranked higher than Rutgers) and it's community from moving on from a dark chapter in their history.
You are not wrong, but the small group of JP-loyalists also happen to be the most vocal, with the Paterno family social media and the former players going on ESPN angry about the statue. Also blows my mind that the State of PA did not do a more thorough investigation, like they also wanted to sweep it under the rug.
 
Rutgers fans should worry about supporting Rutgers first and foremost...by wearing a shirt making jokes about child rape doesn't help anyone or anything, all it does is make Rutgers fans look classless. I am alum of both schools so remember that before you guys attack.
Nope. You've got it all wrong. We're talking about t-shirts accentuating the fact that part of your fanbase feels that your school, administrators and coaches did nothing wrong.
 
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Vast majority of their fan base Agrees with you. The Paterno Truthers group is a small group compared to the size of their overall fanbase,

Sorry, I call BS on this. Wishing don't make it so. Show us any evidence that this is the case.

The fact that your brother-in-law/co-worker/neighbor or whatever Nittany acquaintance is a "good guy" and shakes his head forlornly when the topic comes up don't cut it.

The "truthers" control every seat of the University board that the alumni elect. I don't know if any non cultists even bother to run anymore.

Show us the petition by the non-cultists that the statute should stay down.

Show us the editorials to Pennsy papers from fans/alums telling the cultists to stand down and move on.

Report to us the sermons by PA preachers on the evils of powerful men overlooking sinners that might interfere with their legacies.

Show us the bills in the PA legislature strengthening the child welfare reporting requirements and increasing the access to public records at the State University.

I'll wait.
 
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Here's the only T-shirt that is needed. Be classy.
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We had something similar back under Graber. The shirt said, "ouR hoUse". It was a black shirt with red letters except for "R" and "U", which was in white. We wore it under our uniform against WVU. After we won (1992) some guys took off their shoulder pads and jerseys to show the fans.
 
Doesn't silence on the subject indicate tacit acceptance? Should it be swept under the rug? Do we just ignore it happened and never mention it again? Or is it that we just don't care about it anymore? That is the message we send by our silence.

I'm not saying we should fly a "Ped State" flag, or we should proclaim child rape on a tee shirt. But saying we remember a horrendous wrong was inflicted is confirming our disgust -- particularly to those who deny it ever happened or believe the FB program is more important -- by keeping it in the forefront.

srru86 's point is well taken. Where is the action at PSU and Pennsylvania to chastise, maybe even condemn those "truthers?" To work towards the same thing never happening again?
 
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It just keeps getting worser.

Harrisburg Patriot News 7/20/16
Candidate for Penn State trustee chairmanship refutes Second Mile conflict claims

Don't let the name fool you "Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship" is a group of cultists that has a primary goal to punish members of the board and administration that did not support Paterno and caved to the NCAA, media, Freeh and all the other Nittany haters. They are behind the cultist slate of alumni trustees that have won all the recent elections
Meanwhile the idea that anybody in PA thinks it's a good idea to have somebody that profited from an association with Second Mile in a University leadership role just proves that the incestuous self dealing culture that Paterno presided over remains firmly in place.
 
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Apologising publicly for that flag in 14 was a stupid as apologising for those 10 kids yelling "F**k Navy!" all those years ago.

Really hoping this AD understands the modern media cycle and has the brains to know what one isolated but vocal group of idiots thinks is apology worthy today will be forgotten in a few days as long as you just simply ignore them.
 
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Did any of you attend the game at PSU last year? I have never felt so welcomed by a fan base in my life. It was the best road trip I've taken in any sport. I will welcome all PSU fans and offer them good and beers, like they did to me and my friends.
There was literally one group that was rude to us. Guess what...they were RU fans.
 
Did any of you attend the game at PSU last year? I have never felt so welcomed by a fan base in my life. It was the best road trip I've taken in any sport. I will welcome all PSU fans and offer them good and beers, like they did to me and my friends.
There was literally one group that was rude to us. Guess what...they were RU fans.
What other Big Ten/OOC road trips have you made to compare it to?
 
Did any of you attend the game at PSU last year? I have never felt so welcomed by a fan base in my life. It was the best road trip I've taken in any sport. I will welcome all PSU fans and offer them good and beers, like they did to me and my friends.
They just did that to make you ignore how evil they are.
 
I wonder what the folks who would wear such t-shirts to the PSU game think it accomplishes.

I also wonder if there are any Catholics among that group and if they think wearing a t-shirt to their church Sunday morning that has a priest w/a cross sticking out of his pants standing over a little boy in order to protest the substantially larger child rape coverup there would accomplish the same thing.

In the case of the PSU game, seems to me the most likely outcome of lots of fans wearing such t-shirts is that RU's name will be spread through national media in a very negative way.

I guess everybody should do whatever they think is right. I'm gonna wear my RU gear and treat visiting fans w/respect and friendship.

I don't know. Maybe that makes me a bad person.
 
Did any of you attend the game at PSU last year? I have never felt so welcomed by a fan base in my life. It was the best road trip I've taken in any sport. I will welcome all PSU fans and offer them good and beers, like they did to me and my friends.
There was literally one group that was rude to us. Guess what...they were RU fans.

I was there. They were, for the most part nice. Friendly.
Most welcoming? Hardly,

Fayetteville was the most welcoming place I've ever been...even after we beat the Hogs. Those people were just amazing. Nebraska was awesome. Michigan was great. Psu was mostly polite but certainly not welcoming.
 
From the RT and someone on the Fan Advisory Board . (I know I'm not supposed to share stuff but this seemed like something important to share):

One thing also discussed was Hobbs plans to implement a "fan code of conduct". It sounds like he is serious about tossing unruly fans/tailgates and ones who bring dishonor on Rutgers. Sounds like a Pedd State flag will get you tossed this year.
Code of conduct? Not sure what that defines but you isn't it the freedoms of speech to fly a flag or wear a shirt while tailgaiting or even inside the stadium? No one is going to throw you out for a "inappropriate" tee shirt.
 
What other Big Ten/OOC road trips have you made to compare it to?
The only other Big 10 team I've visited so far was Maryland, but I've also been to Temple, Pitt, Navy, UNC, Army, Cincinnati. bowl games in FL, AZ, and TX, and about 20 MLB stadiums as a visitor. And I stand by what I said. My two friends and I were welcomed by so many people. We had beers with about 6 or 7 different tailgates who invited us to join them. At the bars afterwards, several PSU fans bought us drinks and danced with us. While their message board fans may not be someone I'd want to know (and neither are some of ours, let's be real), the fans I met in real life were incredibly kind. Again, I'll invite every one I see to my tailgate when they come to Pway.
 
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Nope. You've got it all wrong. We're talking about t-shirts accentuating the fact that part of your fanbase feels that your school, administrators and coaches did nothing wrong.

Can't we all just get along? You are gonna throw stones at PSU after half your team was arrested for armed robbery, burglary, drug dealing, larceny and violent assault last year and many of these kids are going away for some significant prison time? Come on now. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Let's keep it classy!
 
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Can't we all just get along? You are gonna throw stones at PSU after half your team was arrested for armed robbery, burglary, drug dealing, larceny and violent assault last year and many of these kids are going away for some significant prison time? Come on now. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Let's keep it classy!
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Oh, I thought you were talking about PSU. Just because you said doesn't make it true. Within minutes someone will post the true facts, then you'll go running back to the PSU board and never to be heard from again.[cheers]
 
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I made the trip last year to psu and felt outnumbered by psu fans 100 to 1, still minus a few drunk students there fans were extremely classy, offering food during the tailgate, and some even shaking me and members of my groups hands and wishing us an enjoyable game day experience. I hope this time around the RU faithful extend the same kind of respect back.
 
It just keeps getting worser.

Harrisburg Patriot News 7/20/16
Candidate for Penn State trustee chairmanship refutes Second Mile conflict claims

Don't let the name fool you "Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship" is a group of cultists that has a primary goal to punish members of the board and administration that did not support Paterno and caved to the NCAA, media, Freeh and all the other Nittany haters. They are behind the cultist slate of alumni trustees that have won all the recent elections
Meanwhile the idea that anybody in PA thinks it's a good idea to have somebody that profited from an association with Second Mile in a University leadership role just proves that the incestuous self dealing culture that Paterno presided over remains firmly in place.

I'm slightly confused by your commentary. In your first paragraph you're bashing PS4RS but If you read the article PS4RS are 100% against Lubert being chairman. Im not defending either side just trying the reconcile your two statements.
 
The big difference between the Church and PSU scandals is Catholics are universally appalled by what happened. There are no Catholics hollering "He notified the Monsignor!" nor do any of them carry cutout figures of the Bishop
 
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Can't we all just get along? You are gonna throw stones at PSU after half your team was arrested for armed robbery, burglary, drug dealing, larceny and violent assault last year and many of these kids are going away for some significant prison time? Come on now. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Let's keep it classy!

Your post and attitude personifies the problem with segments of the cult.
Deflect and hyperbole much?
First, it was 5 or 6 players arrested. Two were arrested for home invasion, and four others for a fight. The charges were dropped against 3 players. So it was not half the team and none of these kids are going away for prison for a long time.
Most importantly, Rutgers took charge and OWNERSHIP of the situation by dismissing all of the involved players from the program immediately. Rutgers did not have JOE PA strong arm the police and authorities to reduce or drop the charges and let the players back on the team. None of the players will play football at Rutgers again.
Glass houses. Maybe your locker room and showers should have been in a glass house. . . . but it probably still would not have made any difference.
 
Did any of you attend the game at PSU last year? I have never felt so welcomed by a fan base in my life. It was the best road trip I've taken in any sport. I will welcome all PSU fans and offer them good and beers, like they did to me and my friends.
There was literally one group that was rude to us. Guess what...they were RU fans.
I've been on every road trip RU has taken to a Big Ten campus going back to Michigan State and Illinois before we were in the conference. Every one was a quite welcoming venue. I had a good time at State College every time I've gone including basketball games going even further back.

The most recent run to Central PA was good but I've had better. If you want friendly you need to get to Lincoln. If you want great campuses and towns try Madison or Ann Arbor.

I'm not advocating anybody attack Nittany fans or even bring up the topic, much less wear a stupid T Shirt. I'll be wearing one of my R shirts.

But their sanctimonious denial is not something that comes out of the ether unbidden. It comes from their fans.
 
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I guess you mean when OUR O has the ball? Do So called RUTGERS Fans really do that?
Yes. I was astounded how quiet 90,000+ Cornhuskers can be in Lincoln when their QB is under center.
 
I'm slightly confused by your commentary. In your first paragraph you're bashing PS4RS but If you read the article PS4RS are 100% against Lubert being chairman. Im not defending either side just trying the reconcile your two statements.

OK, try to keep up:

The cult wants to punish this guy because he was on the board when you dodged the death penalty by agreeing to the settlement. The cult wants to roll back any admission of any wrong doing by anyone other than the actual child raper.

This guy is a "Friend of Joe" with his fingers in the University and Second Mile till. That you can't find somebody without those sorts of connections to lead the board is astounding. The only folks with a problem on the topic want to reject him not because of his self interested dealing but because he did not stick to the Paterno line to the bitter end.

If the fan base was really serious about change they would be demanding:
- Hiring a President without any prior connection to Penn State or other football factory scandals.
- Clearing the board of anyone with business ties to the Paterno family or Second Mile
- Changing the law so that more objective outsiders are appointed to the board.
But no, for the cult the real crime is the University won't let Sue Paterno swim at the athletic facility anymore.

Both sides in this inbred Pennsyltucky spat are morally flawed. It's like choosing between the Hatfields and McCoys.
 
Can't we all just get along?

What a factually incorrect post. With a heavy dose of denial and unfounded moral relevance. In the same situation Paterno would have had those kids picking up trash at the stadium for a few hours as "punishment".
 
Fayetteville was the most welcoming place I've ever been...
Yes, I have never seen anything as welcoming as the Razorback fans, and just plain folks, in Fayetteville. Though Lincoln gives 'em a good run.
 
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How about just a Rutgers shirt. No need to give them anything else to cry about. not to mention another reason to infiltrate this place. Everyone but them knows what they are.
+1. No need to keep stirring the pot.
 
This is silly. It is pathetic that PSU does not try to put this behind them. Paterno should have been thrown under the bus. No one person should be more important to PSU as an institution or the football team. There are many good PSU fans/alumni that are sick of this. To PSU fans and alumni, throw the guy under the bus, you don't want to be perceived as "Unrivaled" as any reasonable University would have cut ties long ago. The tee shirts referencing the Paterno events are stupid.
 
What other Big Ten/OOC road trips have you made to compare it to?

I agree with him and I have been to Every old Big East Stadium to see Rutgers plus
Big Ten:

Michigan
Ohio State
Indiana
Penn State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Maryland

Adding Minnesota and Michigan State this year

OOC:
Army
Navy
North Carolina
Arkansas
Buffalo
Temple

Other Places for Non Rutgers Games:
Georgia Tech
Boston College

Nebraska by far was the best experience, but outside of one idiot running through our tailgate and stealing a flag my experience at Penn State was very good.
 
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