To me, Anyone who wears their stuff believes football is bigger than children. Might as well be wearing a bill Cosby t shirt
"The Boss"...NJ Native
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That is a stupid analogy. You are an idiot for comparing Bruce to Cosby! Cosby raped people. Bruce isn't a Rutgers fan. Doesn't make him a rapist. Why do you have to be so stupid to equate one with the other??
So now anyone who wears PSU stuff "supports pedophiles"?????
Yah...a little overboard here, in my opinion.
VKJ has gone off the rails. Glad he doesn't park next to me anymore. Feel bad for his kids that he has issues!
Wrong liberal. Bon Jovi has the bee farm. Bruce has an organic farm on his 400 plus acre estate in Colts Neck. Got to love limo liberals. They will tell you how you should act and think. Bruce once said nobody wins unless everybody wins, and he is winning by paying a small fraction of the taxes he otherwise would pay on his Colts Neck property.
He is a pretty big baseball fan, particularly the Yankees. For some unknown reason, he wore a Toledo Mud Hens hat for several years.
Hahahahaha, Bruce won't play in Carolina, but he wears a pink hanky and a Ped State hat. It really is funny as shite. I used to like this guy until he went bat shite political. Another dumb ass entertainer who thinks he's smart because of his bank account.
How did I compare Bruce to Bill Cosby. I said he might as well wear a Cosby shirt...the equation was to PSU and Bill and their legions of enablers.
Bon Jovi and Springstein liberal agenda in the media. Conservative when it affects their bank account.
Agreed. I think I'm pretty tough on the JoeBots, but this taking it a bit far. It's a ball cap.
Let me know when he talks about honoring the memory of Paterno or other child raper enabler nonsense.
Actually, the "bee farm" is Jon Bonjovi.
As for Springsteen... He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Bull. He looks better than Matt Harvey in the Glory Days video. He made a reference to Greg Nettles too at the end of the video.
Speaking of hats, he is wearing a REMBASS hat in that video, and that is the same hat he had in his back pocket on the album cover. REMBASS did research at Fort Monmouth for Remotely Monitored Battlefield Surveillance Systems. My mother worked in REMBASS at Camp Evans and worked with the woman who gave him that hat. Odd that a liberal is wearing a hat that supported Reagan's military industrial complex. :rolleyes: Like the art, but not necessarily the artist.
It is a PSU ball cap. That should mean something...
I'm pretty sure a starving, unclothed, African tribesman (who has a strong moral value) would rather sh!t on a PSU shirt than wear it.
Bruce barely graduated high school but he's expert enough to push his political agenda on the rest of us because he has the platform to do it. Thats a Fail in my opinion.
Get your facts right. Bon Jovi does not pay taxes due to his so called bee farm, not Bruce.
The problem with being so close to a major city is that eventually we are needed as a commuter area. This pushed out all of the Native New Jersey Farmers who were replaced by New Yorkers who could not wait to pour concrete on everything. As this occurred, the importance of the Rutgers agricultural complex diminished, it has even diminished in the 20 years since I have been there. So instead of a community chock-full of New Jersey Farmers who need the State University for agricultural research and resources, we have a bunch of straphangers with no New Jersey roots who populate this state.
The time for Rutgers to have made its mark on this state as a cultural staple was 50 years ago but whoever was in charge at the time lacked the foresight unfortunately. Now, we fight this uphill battle for traction. As a result, even local celebrities who wrap themselves around being from New Jersey do not give a s*** about the State University.
The time for Rutgers to have made its mark on this state as a cultural staple was 50 years ago but whoever was in charge at the time lacked the foresight unfortunately. Now, we fight this uphill battle for traction. As a result, even local celebrities who wrap themselves around being from New Jersey do not give a s*** about the State University.
Bruce didn't pay taxes because he had a tree farm. He got push back and decided to start an organic farm. Pretty much the same M.O. that Jon Stewart is using with his mixed use organic farm/animal rescue area.
He threw like a girl in the Glory Days video and called a fastball a speedball. Nuff said.
You been back to the old Camp Evans? It is an InfoAge Museum now. Some pretty interesting stuff there. I went through with my mother, who retired in 1992, and it was an interesting experience.
Just joking. REMBASS pretty cool also.Yes, I've been back a few times since they opened to the public. Fred Carl and the folks at Info Age are doing good work on a shoe string budget to keep the Camp Evans story alive. As a kid growing up nearby it was always a place of much wonder being a "Top Secret Base" patrolled by guard dogs and such. My Dad spent his career at Fort Monmouth.
165 acres, paying $2400 property tax
http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=1310&l02=131000019____00010____QFARMM
20 acres, paying $400 property tax.
http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=1310&l02=131000010____00003____QFARMM
18 acres, paying $262 property tax.
http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=1310&l02=131000019____00014___2_____M
30 acres, paying $440 in property tax
http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=1310&l02=131000019____00021_________M
95 acres, paying $1400 in property tax.
http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=1310&l02=131000020____00007_________M
Total, 330 acres, paying less than $5000 in tax. It's good to be the Boss.
He does pay $152,000 tax on his 13,000 square foot "home" on the remaining 3 acres.
So then looked at another way, he pays $157k in property taxes on 333 acres, right?
I don't really have a problem with any of it, frankly.
Not really, he is paying most of that tax on the gigantic home he built.
It is less problematic if the farm is really a farm and producing substantial quantities of product. The law used to require that the farm had to produce $500 in sales, which is ridiculous. Understood that one of the objectives of the law is to preserve open space/farmland. But there is something inherently distasteful with super rich entertainers skirting taxes with a bee farm or minimal farming on large plots of land, coupled with the insane property taxes that regular folks have to pay. In addition to the tax benefit, he gets to live in seclusion, surrounded by farmland he controls. There's a line from one of his songs, "The banker man grows fat, working man grows thin" that could equally apply to the entertainer man.
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that... But such has always been the case with the Landed Gentry, no? Best thing to do is save your money and buy a large piece of property.
I was noodling around on Zillow the other night and found a 640 acre ranch property in southern Montana - small river flowing through the middle of it, beautiful little house and a few outbuildings - for $390k, with an annual tax bill of about 1400 bucks. Stuff like that always causes me to ponder what the hell I'm doing in NJ.
Same goes in Arizona, if you don't mind a little heat, or you can move closer to Flagstaff, and get an ideal climate and low taxes and beautiful scenery. It is tempting to leave when I retire, but we will likely be tied to where the kids land after college, and I would be fine staying in NJ part of the year.
and I say good for him. He is utilizing tax law based on how it is written. Just stop telling others they shouldn't do they same with their taxes.
This has been one of the more effective single line trolls I've seen from a TTFP fan in quite some time.
He's a fraud. Champion of the common man lives in 13,000 square feet.
$152K on 3 acres sounds like a substantial amount. I have to laugh when I read complaints about the low taxes on these farm assessed properties. Without these break on taxes, every farm in NJ would be carved up into 5 acre lots with houses on them. No one would want to own open land. Let's assume that only 10% of the $152K is on the land (its probably much higher). Multiply $15,200 on 330 acres and the real estate tax bill would be $5 million. On land that costs the town absolutely zero in terms of services provided. I see nothing wrong with encouraging farm owners to keep their land as farms by charging little tax is a good thing for the state - it reduces congestion and air pollution.
As far as those who make a connection that someone wearing Penn State apparel is supporting pedophilia, that's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.
Same posters, same comments. Every thread.
BTW, after watching you, Frank, my brother and seemingly every other fan friend I know getting tix to his shows and me getting shutout by ticketmaster every year I finally got tix this time to one of the MetLife shows.
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