The Hurley Mistake

[e5fdny]

Be careful what you wish for.

Feb 2022:
“A couple of fans were yelling ‘(Bleep) you, Hurley, you suck,” Hurley said. “So I yelled back at them. If you’re going to yell at me, and you’re 100 feet away, behind layers of people — that’s some coward (stuff). But I understand. It’s part of the deal. But I’ll say, too, that you may hear something back from me. I won’t just walk away.”

UConn’s Dan Hurley has heated exchange with fans after ugly loss to Creighton

UConn head coach Dan Hurley got into it Tuesday with some fans at the XL Center after an ugly loss to Creighton.

www.nj.com

And that’s his own (or should I say UCan’t) fans.🤷‍♂️

That would never play here. And by “here” I mean the pages of The Star Ledger, Bergen Record, Asbury Park Press, etc.

 

[The RUT]

Yeah I’m good on the whole Danny Hurley thing. Dude can enjoy UConn.

 

[Plum Street]

This thread is so stupid.
Pike was a great hire. Hurley might have been too. He also was here as an assistant coach and he stunk .
Enjoy the games

 

[MiloTalon13]

And that’s his own (or should I say UCan’t) fans.🤷‍♂️

That would never play here. And by “here” I mean the pages of The Star Ledger, Bergen Record, Asbury Park Press, etc.

Yup - and think about that mentality with people yelling at you - does he apply that same thing when he yells at players?

 

[Plum Street]

For any of you folks following along , Hurley did not want the job . He made some outlandish demands and hobbs didn’t balk. Yes , if hobbs met those demands ,Hurley cries uncle and takes the sweet contract .

An analogy is our new football offensive coordinator. kC asked for a half million dollar raise …and schiano and hobbs obliged in this case. So KC cries uncle and takes the job.

Hurley stunk as a young assistant here (that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have been a good HC here C but needs to be part of the narrative ).

 

[RUInsanity]

For any of you folks following along , Hurley did not want the job . He made some outlandish demands and hobbs didn’t balk. Yes , if hobbs met those demands ,Hurley cries uncle and takes the sweet contract .

An analogy is our new football offensive coordinator. kC asked for a half million dollar raise …and schiano and hobbs obliged in this case. So KC cries uncle and takes the job.

Hurley stunk as a young assistant here (that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have been a good HC here C but needs to be part of the narrative ).

Amen. Tell that to the OP who keeps pushing his passive agressive narrative.

 

[RUsojo]

For any of you folks following along , Hurley did not want the job . He made some outlandish demands and hobbs didn’t balk. Yes , if hobbs met those demands ,Hurley cries uncle and takes the sweet contract .

An analogy is our new football offensive coordinator. kC asked for a half million dollar raise …and schiano and hobbs obliged in this case. So KC cries uncle and takes the job.

Hurley stunk as a young assistant here (that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have been a good HC here C but needs to be part of the narrative ).

Yea he did want the job. What outlandish demand did he make?

 

[Plum Street]

Yea he did want the job. What outlandish demand did he make?

He wanted 7 years and some other stuff if I recall. He also wasn’t in a hurry to leave Rhode Island as the veteran team he built there was expected to be good .

 

[RUPete]

I remember the length being a barrier at the time, but I have no idea how serious he was about coming here.

 

[Good-Knight]

Where is your heart? Is it open to love? If it is not, you'll look around at the current lucky/ hot coach and lust. If it is, you will love Pike and Pike is enough. If Pike was leading the Wagner group, they'd be eating taylor ham in Moscow this morning.

 

[RUPete]

Where is your heart? Is it open to love? If it is not, you'll look around at the current lucky/ hot coach and lust. If it is, you will love Pike and Pike is enough. If Pike was leading the Wagner group, they'd be eating taylor ham in Moscow this morning.

Pork roll.

 

[S_Janowski]

If and when Hurley had any type of success here…he probably would have left for greener pastures anyway.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

Yea he did want the job. What outlandish demand did he make?

If he wanted it, his negotiation suggested caution rather than hunger.

 

[willisneverrana43]

He wanted 7 years and some other stuff if I recall. He also wasn’t in a hurry to leave Rhode Island as the veteran team he built there was expected to be good .

He didn't want to be here so he asked for more guaranteed years here?

Now, I understand your point, but I don't think you're properly wrestling with the other side of it in reaching your conclusion.

 

[Plum Street]

He didn't want to be here so he asked for more guaranteed years here?

Now, I understand your point, but I don't think you're properly wrestling with the other side of it in reaching your conclusion.

He wasn’t gonna come here unless hobbs opened the vault.

Why Rhode Island coach Dan Hurley passed on going to Rutgers

 

[NickRU714]

I gotta say, this whole Hurley situation is sounding eerily:
Demanded a longer than typical contract.
Wanted the AD to open the vault in order to come here.

Considering the state of the program after HC Ash....err...HC Jordan, a longer than typical contract was justified?

It's pretty funny reading this thread along with the HC Schiano threads about needing a 8 year contract.
One is a savior and one is a villain for asking for the same thing it seems.

Note: I couldn't care less about Hurley coming here.

 

[willisneverrana43]

He wasn’t gonna come here unless hobbs opened the vault.

Why Rhode Island coach Dan Hurley passed on going to Rutgers

I read that article. I do not think it means what you think it means:



No doubt he wanted money. But he also wanted a commitment to the time that he thought it would take to turn the program around. That's the part you're missing.

 

[Plum Street]

I read that article. I do not think it means what you think it means:

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No doubt he wanted money. But he also wanted a commitment to the time that he thought it would take to turn the program around. That's the part you're missing.

It does mean what I think it means

 

[RUInsanity]

I gotta say, this whole Hurley situation is sounding eerily:
Demanded a longer than typical contract.
Wanted the AD to open the vault in order to come here.

Considering the state of the program after HC Ash....err...HC Jordan, a longer than typical contract was justified?

It's pretty funny reading this thread along with the HC Schiano threads about needing a 8 year contract.
One is a savior and one is a villain for asking for the same thing it seems.

Note: I couldn't care less about Hurley coming here.

Dude, you keep doing this. Show your work. While there were multitudes who cheered on having GS 2.0 (many of whom are now the same people denigrating him btw).....don't recall anyone who was particularly happy about the length of his contract. Most comments were that it was a necessary evil.

Also, Hurley was not a villian because of the contract length demands. He's a villian because he's a Hurley plus kind of a DB as a coach as well as the negotiations did not work out with RU. Are you new to this entire how many fans react/behave thing? It's generally not rational. If he came here, likely that most would have welcomed him.

 

[willisneverrana43]

It does mean what I think it means

Inconceivable.

 

[jakeknight]

Wright to Villanova was inevitable, the only roadblock was Steve Lapus once they fired Lapus it was a done deal thats were Wright wanted to be, RU might have gotten Wright 2-3 before he went to Villanova, and even if they had gotten Wright earlier he would have left RU to take The Villanova job.
Hurley has done a good job at Uconn, not sure that would have happened at RU, given the givens I think Pike was the right choice, for our situation. RU required stability and patience ie. A program builder, not sure the requirements fit Hurley's personality.

 

[Plum Street]

Wright to Villanova was inevitable, the only roadblock was Steve Lapus once they fired Lapus it was a done deal thats were Wright wanted to be, RU might have gotten Wright 2-3 before he went to Villanova, and even if they had gotten Wright earlier he would have left RU to take The Villanova job.
Hurley has done a good job at Uconn, not sure that would have happened at RU, given the givens I think Pike was the right choice, for our situation. RU required stability and patience ie. A program builder, not sure the requirements fit Hurley's personality.

I don’t know if wright to nova was inevitable if he came to rutgers . He started off his Villanova career very mediocre. Many thought Garry waters was doing a better job at rutgers over the first 3 years. I think we may have even beaten nova in the NIT .
If wright started his rutgers run very mediocre , not sure if Villanova would have come calling at that point

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I gotta say, this whole Hurley situation is sounding eerily:
Demanded a longer than typical contract.
Wanted the AD to open the vault in order to come here.

Considering the state of the program after HC Ash....err...HC Jordan, a longer than typical contract was justified?

It's pretty funny reading this thread along with the HC Schiano threads about needing a 8 year contract.
One is a savior and one is a villain for asking for the same thing it seems.

Note: I couldn't care less about Hurley coming here.

Relatively unproven Hurley vs GS returning who really knew the job and was successful here? C'mon.. that's not apples to apples. Mike Rice had a better resume than Hurley when he came here and if asked for a long-term guarantee.. well.. that would have gone well... right?

I am siding with the guys who say Hurley did not want to risk coming here so he made outlandish demands that no one should have agreed to.

Lets say Hurley looked at the blue blood bball programs as his ultimate goal.

If he jumps to Rutgers and does well.. he gets that shot at a Blue Blood. But if he does poorly? It is step down and then work his way back up.

But the way he played it? He stays at URI improves his resume and eventually, he makes the jump to UCONN, a blue blood, because they got desperate after 2 losing seasons in the AAC under Ollie.. who actually won an NCAA Tourney in his 2nd year (largely with Calhoun's recruits). But years 5-6 were losing seasons.

Now, once with UCONN, a blue blood.. that's his shot. That was the goal.. and he made the most of it... and did it faster than if he had come to Rutgers and had success here. As a young coach, success at Rutgers would me many offers coming his way and he would have bolted, I think.

We end up with a great coach and UCONN did too.

 

[RUsojo]

I gotta say, this whole Hurley situation is sounding eerily:
Demanded a longer than typical contract.
Wanted the AD to open the vault in order to come here.

Considering the state of the program after HC Ash....err...HC Jordan, a longer than typical contract was justified?

It's pretty funny reading this thread along with the HC Schiano threads about needing a 8 year contract.
One is a savior and one is a villain for asking for the same thing it seems.

Note: I couldn't care less about Hurley coming here.

Haha yeah this board is a walking contradiction most days

 

[RUsojo]

Relatively unproven Hurley vs GS returning who really knew the job and was successful here? C'mon.. that's not apples to apples. Mike Rice had a better resume than Hurley when he came here and if asked for a long-term guarantee.. well.. that would have gone well... right?

I am siding with the guys who say Hurley did not want to risk coming here so he made outlandish demands that no one should have agreed to.

Lets say Hurley looked at the blue blood bball programs as his ultimate goal.

If he jumps to Rutgers and does well.. he gets that shot at a Blue Blood. But if he does poorly? It is step down and then work his way back up.

But the way he played it? He stays at URI improves his resume and eventually, he makes the jump to UCONN, a blue blood, because they got desperate after 2 losing seasons in the AAC under Ollie.. who actually won an NCAA Tourney in his 2nd year (largely with Calhoun's recruits). But years 5-6 were losing seasons.

Now, once with UCONN, a blue blood.. that's his shot. That was the goal.. and he made the most of it... and did it faster than if he had come to Rutgers and had success here. As a young coach, success at Rutgers would me many offers coming his way and he would have bolted, I think.

We end up with a great coach and UCONN did too.

Hurleys “demands” are in practice essentially what Pikiell got like less than a full calendar year later after his original deal.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Hurleys “demands” are in practice essentially what Pikiell got like less than a full calendar year later after his original deal.

You don't know that.

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[dpwhite]

Just a reminder, we have the #3 recruiting class in the nation. Doesn't mean much until the games, but we have that. I think Hurley was on the table, but we ended up with the right guy

 

[KnightTerrors]

Just a reminder, we have the #3 recruiting class in the nation. Doesn't mean much until the games, but we have that. I think Hurley was on the table, but we ended up with the right guy

A freaking men! I don’t understand why fans keep bowing to a guy that spurned us. People can theorize all they want. We got the guy that made the dream a reality!

 

[greenknight]

I will say this Danny was a whiny complaining you could say bad attitude player and not nearly as good as Bobby but he is a better coach that's a little surprising to me.

 

[greenknight]

My memory is fuzzy on the details, but at one point there was a report that Bob Sr. was willing to take the RU job on a temporary basis after Fred Hill Jr was fired. Obviously, it never materialized.

I don't think Sr would have ever taken RU job he did way too much community stuff in JC and bettered alot of kids that would have ended up on the wrong side of the law w/o him

 

[mugrat86]

I will say this Danny was a whiny complaining you could say bad attitude player and not nearly as good as Bobby but he is a better coach that's a little surprising to me.

His dad was the best high school coach of all time so how could you be surprised that Dan did not learn a ton from dad’s tutelage

 

[mugrat86]

I don't think Sr would have ever taken RU job he did way too much community stuff in JC and bettered alot of kids that would have ended up on the wrong side of the law w/o him

Bob Sr might be the best human being ever involved in sports. As far as I could recall, there has never been another person who turned down millions to get paid nothing and had no ulterior motive other than to benefit inner city kids

 

[greenknight]

His dad was the best high school coach of all time so how could you be surprised that Dan did not learn a ton from dad’s tutelage

So did Bobby. I think Danny hates losing more than Bobby lol

 

[Lawboy12007]

Jay Wright?

Jay Wright was never an option. He always wanted the Nova job and took our offer and drove back to Philly to top it. I know this 100 percent as fact . He never let us counter.

 

[Saint Puppy]

He wasn’t gonna come here unless hobbs opened the vault.

Why Rhode Island coach Dan Hurley passed on going to Rutgers

I used to work for a company that was toxic and notoriously cheap. My friend is now being recruited by that company, and I told him don't go there unless they accept an offer you can't refuse and have an ironclad contract. He asked for it, and they are seriously considering it because they can't retain anyone. Same situation here - we had a bad reputation. To get somebody like Danny we had to go above and beyond because of who we were. It's the price you pay eventually for continually writing bad checks and having a bad reputation.

I kiss the ground Pike is here - turned this whole thing around.

 

[Kbee3]

Bob Sr might be the best human being ever involved in sports. As far as I could recall, there has never been another person who turned down millions to get paid nothing and had no ulterior motive other than to benefit inner city kids

So true.
And it can't be said enough.
Greatest high school coach. His team with Walker, Bob Jr., Dehere, Rhodes, and Rooney was the best I've ever seen. A joy to watch...especially on the break.

 

[Lawboy12007]

Jay Wright?

Jay Wright never really wanted the job. He took the offer and flew down the turnpike to play Let’s Make a Deal. I knew his next door neighbor on the Island and when I called him to tell him about the interview, he said 100 percent Nova. It’s a bargaining tool.

 

[BigRnj]

Villanova was Jay Wright's dream job. Can't really blame the admin.
Mario Cristobal was a huge miss.

Can‘t let this one pass (have to call a timeout, get it). A huge miss… really? 🤔🙄😬

 

[Rhuarc]

Can‘t let this one pass (have to call a timeout, get it). A huge miss… really? 🤔🙄😬

Dang, you beat me to this!