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The Hurley Mistake

As I said, RU probably approached Franklin to see if he was interested

The next thing we know is that he used that against us when PU and RU were recruiting the same player

Not a big deal, but of course Franklin had to act like a jerk afterwards
probably? I wonder how many times some executive search firm talks to agents of people who would never be considered by their client.. just to check boxes for a "thorough" search.. to prove their value as a search firm.
 
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What else can we do but go by the trusted and verified sources that reported in the matter? They back this notion more than any other. How about were are the sources to support your conclusion? You have none. Seriously every thread has to become an unsubstantiated attack so tiresome.

This OP was so straight forward and transparent and then all the insecure board argument police ran as fast as they could to argue consensus details rather than just discuss the topic. Or not assume positive intent.

Appreciate the posters who came in here and posted with positive intent; whether about hurleys performance, the reported details of the negotiation, and pikes success.

As soon as the guys come i. with disingenuous attacks it goes off the rails. Somethings we can just accept and not get hurt by as Rutgers fans. It’s ok.

Okie Dokie....blah blah blah......your obfuscating......still waiting on some type of link or backup to support your claim.

Ps.....generally when someone starts a thread that is a definitive statement or indictment of a team or player....but provides no backup to their claims, it opens up reason for others to challenge the claim.

Pps.....more and more posters are on to you. Constant passive agressive negativity towards RU and when called out or challenged ....cries of how you don't have any agenda or mal- intentions.
 
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I didn't read any of this stupid thread but I got it now. You won't let it die and you must get joy from rubbing the Boards face in it. How many flucking threads are you gonna hijack before the mods do something about you. There's something wrong with you. Seek help. GTFO of here. You're a jackass.
 
I didn't read any of this stupid thread but I got it now. You won't let it die and you must get joy from rubbing the Boards face in it. How many flucking threads are you gonna hijack before the mods do something about you. There's something wrong with you. Seek help. GTFO of here. You're a jackass.

Assuming this is directed at me, how would you know a thread is hijacked if you haven't read anything in it? Also, which other threads are you referring to?
 
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Assuming this is directed at me, how would you know a thread is hijacked if you haven't read anything in it? Also, which other threads are you referring to?
He couldn't have meant you. Your responses have been on-topic and then just responses to your on-topic initial post in this thread. As far as I can tell, practically everyone here is talking about former coaching searches and the people involved. And to "hijack" such a negative thread.. how is that a bad thing even if it happened?

I don't get it.
 
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I didn't read any of this stupid thread but I got it now. You won't let it die and you must get joy from rubbing the Boards face in it. How many flucking threads are you gonna hijack before the mods do something about you. There's something wrong with you. Seek help. GTFO of here. You're a jackass.
THANK YOU
 
Okie Dokie....blah blah blah......your obfuscating......still waiting on some type of link or backup to support your claim.

Ps.....generally when someone starts a thread that is a definitive statement or indictment of a team or player....but provides no backup to their claims, it opens up reason for others to challenge the claim.

Pps.....more and more posters are on to you. Constant passive agressive negativity towards RU and when called out or challenged ....cries of how you don't have any agenda or mal- intentions.
There is nothing passive nor aggressive about the OP. It’s straightforward and simply stated.
 
There is nothing passive nor aggressive about the OP. It’s straightforward and simply stated.

ok - but again, I'm just looking for you to expand on your claim that RU made a mistake by linking more details/insights from those who might have been close to the situation. Not sure why you keep avoiding this if your are so sure about your straightforward claim.
 
ok - but again, I'm just looking for you to expand on your claim that RU made a mistake by linking more details/insights from those who might have been close to the situation. Not sure why you keep avoiding this if your are so sure about your straightforward claim.
candidate was interested in the job. Confirmed by Richie see premium. Open up your wallet if you don’t.

He ended up winning a national title.

The length of contract was reported as the biggest contract obstacle, 7 years, reported by Carino and others.

Link something from a credentialed person that says he wasn’t interested.

Why do these threads have to transition to scarlet colored glasses irrationalism. This stuff is generally known you can’t just dispute the core items here because you don’t like it.
 
candidate was interested in the job. Confirmed by Richie see premium. Open up your wallet if you don’t.

He ended up winning a national title.

The length of contract was reported as the biggest contract obstacle, 7 years, reported by Carino and others.

Link something from a credentialed person that says he wasn’t interested.

Why do these threads have to transition to scarlet colored glasses irrationalism. This stuff is generally known you can’t just dispute the core items here because you don’t like it.


Hurley's interest and the ensuing discussions about the RU job can only be speculated. Some media outlets claimed that he was not really interested: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-coach-dan-hurley-passed-on-going-to-rutgers/

You made a definitive "dig" at RU based on that speculation. I can only guess that you are not a fan of Hobbs - because otherwise I can't see any other reason to call this an RU Mistake without knowing or hearing for sure from someone like Hurley himself.

My comments have nothing to do with having scarlet colored glasses. There are quite a few posters who have visceral reactions to your theme in this thread - perhaps you need to take a deeper look to understand why. That's up to you.

This all being said - there is no guarantee that Hurley would have had the success at RU that he has achieved at UConn. He is a very good coach and I would be happy if he had chosen RU back in 2016. However situations and players play heavily into success. RU was a mess in 2016 and UConn has a strong history of success. Even though there are some constant detractors on this board, Pike has turned out to be a very good choice for RU and currently with a very bright recruiting outlook.

This string has gone on long enough - so I'll leave it there.
 
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Hurley's interest and the ensuing discussions about the RU job can only be speculated. Some media outlets claimed that he was not really interested: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-coach-dan-hurley-passed-on-going-to-rutgers/

You made a definitive "dig" at RU based on that speculation. I can only guess that you are not a fan of Hobbs - because otherwise I can't see any other reason to call this an RU Mistake without knowing or hearing for sure from someone like Hurley himself.

My comments have nothing to do with having scarlet colored glasses. There are quite a few posters who have visceral reactions to your theme in this thread - perhaps you need to take a deeper look to understand why. That's up to you.

This all being said - there is no guarantee that Hurley would have had the success at RU that he has achieved at UConn. He is a very good coach and I would be happy if he had chosen RU back in 2016. However situations and players play heavily into success. RU was a mess in 2016 and UConn has a strong history of success. Even though there are some constant detractors on this board, Pike has turned out to be a very good choice for RU and currently with a very bright recruiting outlook.

This string has gone on long enough - so I'll leave it there.
The first game I got to see Mike Rice coach for us, I got concerned

He got in the face of one of our players and really let him have it

The look on face was semi crazed, and this was in front of the home town fans

When considering Hurley, We had just been through that and to tell the truth, I felt Hurley may have been more of the same

The university may have had some concern also and certainly did not want a repeat of that
The tendency is to look for a coach with a more moderate personality

For some reason every misstep the university makes is headline news every where so we had to be careful
 
Hurley's interest and the ensuing discussions about the RU job can only be speculated. Some media outlets claimed that he was not really interested: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-coach-dan-hurley-passed-on-going-to-rutgers/

You made a definitive "dig" at RU based on that speculation. I can only guess that you are not a fan of Hobbs - because otherwise I can't see any other reason to call this an RU Mistake without knowing or hearing for sure from someone like Hurley himself.

My comments have nothing to do with having scarlet colored glasses. There are quite a few posters who have visceral reactions to your theme in this thread - perhaps you need to take a deeper look to understand why. That's up to you.

This all being said - there is no guarantee that Hurley would have had the success at RU that he has achieved at UConn. He is a very good coach and I would be happy if he had chosen RU back in 2016. However situations and players play heavily into success. RU was a mess in 2016 and UConn has a strong history of success. Even though there are some constant detractors on this board, Pike has turned out to be a very good choice for RU and currently with a very bright recruiting outlook.

This string has gone on long enough - so I'll leave it there.
A lot of visceral reactions because of a lot of emotional Rutgers scarlet colored glasses fans.

Until next time
 
A lot of visceral reactions because of a lot of emotional Rutgers scarlet colored glasses fans.

Until next time
I don't like Dan Hurley. Where are the scarlet glasses there?

Have you considered that your OP may not be accurate in is formulation, either because he didn't truly want to be here or because his demands were not consistent with the existing market at that time, or even because he might not have been as successful at Rutgers.

You have repeated your position to defend it, but not made the thread more interesting by actually engaging and reflecting upon others' responses.

At a party, that before would be considered boorish. But it may be more acceptable on a message board. But it is not interesting.
 
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I don't like Dan Hurley. Where are the scarlet glasses there?

Have you considered that your OP may not be accurate in is formulation, either because he didn't truly want to be here or because his demands were not consistent with the existing market at that time, or even because he might not have been as successful at Rutgers.

You have repeated your position to defend it, but not made the thread more interesting by actually engaging and reflecting upon others' responses.

At a party, that before would be considered boorish. But it may be more acceptable on a message board. But it is not interesting.
I’ve considered all those things. I’ve only posted if someone has quoted me, for the most part.
 
I didn't read any of this stupid thread but I got it now. You won't let it die and you must get joy from rubbing the Boards face in it. How many flucking threads are you gonna hijack before the mods do something about you. There's something wrong with you. Seek help. GTFO of here. You're a jackass.

I'm still waiting on a response. If you're going to jump in and make accusations, threats, demands and name call.....ar least be a man about it and don't run and hide when asked for an explanation.
 
Appreciate the posters who came in here and posted with positive intent; whether about hurleys performance, the reported details of the negotiation, and pikes success.

Your OP and original post was basically taking a shot at Rutgers claiming the AD made a mistake (your words).

Your premise of Rutgers making a “mistake” is also based on a whole lot of speculation or prediction of the future.

This isn’t even considering the fact that we knocked it out of the park with the Pikiell hire. The guy turned Rutgers, which was arguably one of, if not the worst Power 5 basketball programs in the country into a highly respectable program across the nation and the best yet may still be to come considering our recruiting classes.

Yet expect all posters to be “positive”?

Haha…ooo the irony.
 
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Assuming this is directed at me, how would you know a thread is hijacked if you haven't read anything in it? Also, which other threads are you referring to?
Sorry not directed at you. I should have noted that it was directed at the OP. I was away from the board for a day and didn't see your post. You and I agree with each other regarding the OP.
 
UConn was a bottom feeder in the BE until Calhoun took over. College basketball is all about the coach. He wasn't leaving Rutgers for UConn if he was successful at Rutgers. And UConn wouldn't be National Champions today if Rutgers had hired Hurley.
How do you know that? Kevin Ollie won a title at UConn. How can you say whoever they hired wouldn't have also won?
 
RUsoho jumps into as many threads as he can and starts with the same tired argument that we'd have been better off with Hurley. The vast majority here are happy with coach Pikiell so why not let it go?
Not only that, he seems to be getting more negative towards RU sports in general and he's been doing it for a long time. If he's so negative towards RU why not go root for someone else?
 
If it weren’t Rutgers, it would be hard to believe a program could come close to hiring national champion coaches twice, and end up empty handed.

Yes the program is in ok shape now.

But to have turned away a proven college coach oozing big time potential and with the uniquely good fit being basketball royal family in your state was a mistake we will have to live down for a long time.

Counting on Pike to eventually make it as close to water under the bridge as possible,

The Hurley mistake is to think he would have succeeded here in any way similar to at UConn. Context matters. Thank goodness we did not hire him.
 
RUsoho jumps into as many threads as he can and starts with the same tired argument that we'd have been better off with Hurley. The vast majority here are happy with coach Pikiell so why not let it go?
Not only that, he seems to be getting more negative towards RU sports in general and he's been doing it for a long time. If he's so negative towards RU why not go root for someone else?

Happy is an understatement. Couldn’t be more thrilled to have coach Pike.
 
The Hurley mistake is to think he would have succeeded here in any way similar to at UConn. Context matters. Thank goodness we did not hire him.
I contend hurley would have won more than one ncaa tournament game in 8 years at RU.

I feel pretty confident most college basketball fans would agree.

I also feel confident saying Pikiell has succeeded as RU head coach.

Nothing wrong with any of this discussion. Not sure why there is so much insecurity running around here.
 
I contend hurley would have won more than one ncaa tournament game in 8 years at RU.

I feel pretty confident most college basketball fans would agree.

I also feel confident saying Pikiell has succeeded as RU head coach.

Nothing wrong with any of this discussion. Not sure why there is so much insecurity running around here.
No insecurity. I just don't like Danny and haven't since he was here.
 
No insecurity. I just don't like Danny and haven't since he was here.
I mean that’s different than saying he wouldn’t succeed at RU. Is it personal or do you really think he wouldnt do well here?
 
I mean that’s different than saying he wouldn’t succeed at RU. Is it personal or do you really think he wouldnt do well here?

I think had be come that his approach to the institution and his personality would not have been conducive to success. I'm not convinced of his resilience to the inevitable setbacks as a pioneer at Rutgers. I do not think he would have lasted here long enough to have had success.

I have no doubt his basketball knowledge and skills are first rate.
 
If it weren’t Rutgers, it would be hard to believe a program could come close to hiring national champion coaches twice, and end up empty handed.

Yes the program is in ok shape now.

But to have turned away a proven college coach oozing big time potential and with the uniquely good fit being basketball royal family in your state was a mistake we will have to live down for a long time.

Counting on Pike to eventually make it as close to water under the bridge as possible,
Hindsight is 20/20. And we don’t know how either of them would have done. Success is right time at right place.
 
I think had be come that his approach to the institution and his personality would not have been conducive to success. I'm not convinced of his resilience to the inevitable setbacks as a pioneer at Rutgers. I do not think he would have lasted here long enough to have had success.

I have no doubt his basketball knowledge and skills are first rate.

how much faster would folks want anyone to have done it? Pike had us in year 4 until COVID hit.
 
how much faster would folks want anyone to have done it? Pike had us in year 4 until COVID hit.
Be careful what you wish for.

Feb 2022:
“A couple of fans were yelling ‘(Bleep) you, Hurley, you suck,” Hurley said. “So I yelled back at them. If you’re going to yell at me, and you’re 100 feet away, behind layers of people — that’s some coward (stuff). But I understand. It’s part of the deal. But I’ll say, too, that you may hear something back from me. I won’t just walk away.”

 
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