This year is a perfect answer why the playoff shouldn't go to 8 teams

[WhiteBus]

There is Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State with a week left and conference championships games. None of the other teams belong. After the next two weeks there maybe only two great worthy.
College football doesn't need a participation trophy expanded playoff. You're great or not. There isn't 8 teams worthy.

 

[RUMcMahon]

I hear you but considering Penn State beat OSU they have a legit gripe.

 

[WhiteBus]

I hear you but considering Penn State beat OSU they have a legit gripe.

And that's my point. PSU is in if if you expand to 8 teams if they can win Saturday. Deserving? I think not

 

[vkj91]

This is like the less bowls argument. Makes no sense, The quicker they expand to 8 the better.
Washington, Clemson, and Wisconsin are capable of beating any of those top 4 teams.

 

[bac2therac]

Agree White Bus.....4 pretty much covers it because then you start to get into 2 loss teams and the further you go past 4 the closer teams say 7-12 become

 

[bac2therac]

This is like the less bowls argument. Makes no sense, The quicker they expand to 8 the better.
Washington, Clemson, and Wisconsin are capable of beating any of those top 4 teams.

yet Penn State was the only one to do it, why did you leave them out

 

[WhiteBus]

This is like the less bowls argument. Makes no sense, The quicker they expand to 8 the better.
Washington, Clemson, and Wisconsin are capable of beating any of those top 4 teams.

With games to be played one or two will lose.
Come Sunday morning you can't make an arguement for 8 teams. You may be pressed for a 3rd team.
Washington? No way.

 

[vkj91]

yet Penn State was the only one to do it, why did you leave them out

They are having a nice season but anyone who has watched them play this year knows they aren't on that level. Sorry if you don't agree. Let's talk Saturday afternoon.

 

[vkj91]

With games to be played one or two will lose.
Come Sunday morning you can't make an arguement for 8 teams. You may be pressed for a 3rd team.
Washington? No way.

Why because they lost to a very talented USC team? You are ok with a two loss PSU team but not a Michigan team that killed them? Aren't you a big hockey guy? You must hate the playoffs

 

[Abro1975]

IMO, The winner of every D1 conference gets a playoff berth. The race for division championships then becomes paramount, and the conference championship an exciting de facto play in
Then seed the conference champs, and figure out the brackets. Incorporate the bowls after the first round. Make the Independents like ND and BYU join some conference, even if for football only.

 

[vkj91]

IMO, The winner of every D1 conference gets a playoff berth. The race for division championships then becomes paramount, and the conference championship an exciting de facto play in
Then seed the conference champs, and figure out the brackets. Incorporate the bowls after the first round. Make the Independents like ND and BYU join some conference, even if for football only.

This at minimum all P5 champions should be in. If not, say goodbye to LSU vs Wisconsin type games early on.

 

[BoogieKnight]

The less Bowls argument is legit and is bolstered by the fact that attendance at these 2nd and 3rd tier bowl games is going down every year. Let's face it...they are filler programming for ESPN and nothing more.

 

[WhiteBus]

Why because they lost to a very talented USC team? You are ok with a two loss PSU team but not a Michigan team that killed them? Aren't you a big hockey guy? You must hate the playoffs

I'm not at all ok with a 2 loss PSU team. Read my posts! You support my point!
I am a big hockey guy. Hockey teams have already already played more games than any college team and they play until April before they figure out who is in and they let in way too many.

 

[vkj91]

I'm not at all ok with a 2 loss PSU team. Read my posts! You support my point!
I am a big hockey guy. Hockey teams have already already played more games than any college team and they play until April before they figure out who is in and they let in way too many.

So you would prefer we don't see any great OOC matchups? Why should LSU play Wisconsin? Oklahoma is out beciase they played Houston opening week? Would you prefer to see them play Tulsa? In fact, they are out beciase they played two great OOC games.

 

[vkj91]

The less Bowls argument is legit and is bolstered by the fact that attendance at these 2nd and 3rd tier bowl games is going down every year. Let's face it...they are filler programming for ESPN and nothing more.

Then we should cancel the MAC as well. Ohio is playing for a championship tonight and nobody is there. Do you not watch all these bowls? I love the fact that I can have the Bahamas Bowl on while I prep Christmas Eve dinner.

 

[jason21psu]

This at minimum all P5 champions should be in. If not, say goodbye to LSU vs Wisconsin type games early on.

I disagree. Think like a coach and not a fan for a second. If you know all you have to do is win your conference than scheduling cupcakes at the being of the season is the wisest thing to do. You get to develop depth, which also helps avoid getting stars injured. And fan bases demand wins from coaches. Look at UMD, 3 non-con pretty easy teams. A lot of you were even lauding the talents of Durkin. His team built up confidence, there was talk they could come in Penn State and win. Well transpose that against your schedule and getting woodsheded by UW. Would you have rather a win against cupcake U or playing a top 5 team but losing bigly. As a fan we'd sometimes sign up for the latter but coaches want the W's.

 

[RU31trap]

I believe that PSU is deserving of a playoff birth. Seriously guys, why is OSU more deserving?

 

[bac2therac]

They are having a nice season but anyone who has watched them play this year knows they aren't on that level. Sorry if you don't agree. Let's talk Saturday afternoon.

lol whatever you say but lets stop pretending that they didnt beat OSU

 

[BoogieKnight]

Then we should cancel the MAC as well. Ohio is playing for a championship tonight and nobody is there. Do you not watch all these bowls? I love the fact that I can have the Bahamas Bowl on while I prep Christmas Eve dinner.

I watch some and agree that they can be good for hardcore fans. Very cozy around the holidays. But can't ignore the poor attendance.

 

[vkj91]

I disagree. Think like a coach and not a fan for a second. If you know all you have to do is win your conference than scheduling cupcakes at the being of the season is the wisest thing to do. You get to develop depth, which also helps avoid getting stars injured. And fan bases demand wins from coaches. Look at UMD, 3 non-con pretty easy teams. A lot of you were even lauding the talents of Durkin. His team built up confidence, there was talk they could come in Penn State and win. Well transpose that against your schedule and getting woodsheded by UW. Would you have rather a win against cupcake U or playing a top 5 team but losing bigly. As a fan we'd sometimes sign up for the latter but coaches want the W's.

Well I think there are two classes in college football. Schools like RU should focus on bowls. Need to crawl before you walk. I'd prefer Marylands Model. Schools that aspire to win a NC should strive to play the best. I'm not saying you are wrong but if I'm Stoops and I get left out I'm telling my AD to cancel any games against historically great OOC teams. What's the point? Beat the Big12 and go to the dance.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Strong reasoning. "because whitebus thinks so."

Luckily, that logic only works for one person on earth .. and it's not really working so well for that guy, either.

 

[vkj91]

lol whatever you say but lets stop pretending that they didnt beat OSU

I've never pretended that and have offered them props. Also lost to Michigan by 35

 

[WhiteBus]

So you would prefer we don't see any great OOC matchups? Why should LSU play Wisconsin? Oklahoma is out beciase they played Houston opening week? Would you prefer to see them play Tulsa? In fact, they are out beciase they played two great OOC games.

Where did I say that?? They aren't in contention because they got blown out twice. And the Big 12 sucks this year.
OSU is 100x times better than Oklahoma. And the fact that the Big 12 bailed on a conference championship game puts them last in the pecking order. Add in the Big 12 doesn't want to expand. They need to be perfect to make the top 4. They don't have a perfect team. By their choice they are eliminated.

 

[vkj91]

I watch some and agree that they can be good for hardcore fans. Very cozy around the holidays. But can't ignore the poor attendance.

But everyone knows TV money is where it's at. Hockey attendance sucks in many places. So does baseball. Still always on TV

 

[vkj91]

Where did I say that?? They aren't in contention because they got blown out twice. And the Big 12 sucks this year.
OSU is 100x times better than Oklahoma. And the fact that the Big 12 bailed on a conference championship game puts them last in the pecking order. Add in the Big 12 doesn't want to expand. They need to be perfect to make the top 4. They don't have a perfect team. By their choice they are eliminated.

But that's the point. An indefeated Big12 team gets in. Right? So why bother playing OSU?

 

[WhiteBus]

Strong reasoning. "because whitebus thinks so."

Luckily, that logic only works for one person on earth .. and it's not really working so well for that guy, either.

Whitebus may think so. Irrelevant. The playoff committee backs me up.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Whitebus may think so. Irrelevant. The playoff committee backs me up.

So the playoff committee is only going to send three teams to the playoffs?

 

[WhiteBus]

But that's the point. An indefeated Big12 team gets in. Right? So why bother playing OSU?

Umm OSU played Oklahoma and killed them. They also lost to an AAC school too. OSU did play a much better schedule. You want to argue that?

 

[RU31trap]

I feel that PSU is just as deserving as OSU or Michigan. Cmon guys set your feelings aside and just be fair. Penn State beat Iowa who beat Michigan and we all know who beat OSU. If Michigan beats OSU in the last game of the year how could you deny PSU. There would be a public outcry, and many would point to 1994 when Penn State stepped aside for a 2 loss Miami team to play Nebraska. If we were in Penn State's position we would be outraged. Just saying.

 

[WhiteBus]

So the playoff committee is only going to send three teams to the playoffs?

No they are forced to send 4. Read my original post. There is no need for an 8 team playoff. Do you have a reading comprehension issue??

 

[vkj91]

Umm OSU played Oklahoma and killed them. They also lost to an AAC school too. OSU did play a much better schedule. You want to argue that?

Let's slow this down for you. My point was Oklahoma is being punished for playing two top 5 OOC games based of pre season rankings. Two games all college fans looked forward to epwarching. Why bother doing that in the future?

 

[vkj91]

I'll sum this up from my point of view. Five things men should never say
There should be less college football games
Cinemax should show less T and A after 10:30
BBQ is a waste of time
I don't like scotch
There should be less college football games

 

[WhiteBus]

Let's slow this down for you. My point was Oklahoma is being punished for playing two top 5 OOC games based of pre season rankings. Two games all college fans looked forward to epwarching. Why bother doing that in the future?

Let me slow it down for you. Oklahoma doesn't have a big win. And two awful losses. Why do they deserve to be considered when their conference passed on a Conference Championship?
Every other conference will force one of their teams to lose.
Its a gamble the Big 12 took. Some years it will pay off. Its not this year.

 

[FanuSanu52]

No they are forced to send 4. Read my original post. There is no need for an 8 team playoff. Do you have a reading comprehension issue??

No, I read what you said and all but repeated it back to you, minus the egregious number of errors laced throughout the short, logic-free post. Unfortunately for you what you said doesn't support the assertion that we don't need an 8-team playoff without the bridge I created for you: because WhiteBus thinks so.

 

[WhiteBus]

I'll sum this up from my point of view. Five things men should never say
There should be less college football games
Cinemax should show less T and A after 10:30
BBQ is a waste of time
I don't like scotch
There should be less college football games

Again you back my point. The Big 12 has decided they will gamble by playing one less game than every other conference by passing on a ConferenceChampionship game. The Big 12 has said less football is better.

 

[vkj91]

Let me slow it down for you. Oklahoma doesn't have a big win. And two awful losses. Why do they deserve to be considered when their conference passed on a Conference Championship?
Every other conference will force one of their teams to lose.
Its a gamble the Big 12 took. Some years it will pay off. Its not this year.

Again, if Oklahoma was 12-0 with wins against Tulsa and SMU vs losses against OSU and Houston are they in? If so, why ever play hard OOC games again?

 

[WhiteBus]

No, I read what you said and all but repeated it back to you, minus the egregious number of errors laced throughout the short, logic-free post. Unfortunately for you what you said doesn't support the assertion that we don't need an 8-team playoff without the bridge I created for you: because WhiteBus thinks so.

My God. Go to bed. You aren't making any sense.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Should be 8 teams. We should try it. When we see an 8 beat a 1 on the road.. then's we'll know.

Already the 4 teams have shown that the old imaginary 1 vs 2 was BS... because a 4 beat a 1, and then the 2 as well.

Try it.

 

[WhiteBus]

Again, if Oklahoma was 12-0 with wins against Tulsa and SMU vs losses against OSU and Houston are they in? If so, why ever play hard OOC games again?

And they won't play an elimination game in game 13. And you keep ignoring the fact that OSU played them in a OCC game. Its not like OSU played ULM like Oklahoma did.

 

[vkj91]

Should be 8 teams. We should try it. When we see an 8 beat a 1 on the road.. then's we'll know.

Already the 4 teams have shown that the old imaginary 1 vs 2 was BS... because a 4 beat a 1, and then the 2 as well.

Try it.

5 P5, top non P5, and 2 at large.
First round at higher seed home field
Second round at regional bowl sights
Final in same locations as now.