Thread for well-balanced, thoughtful RVision talk
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My answer is I don't know.
I guess I just felt like an unpaid intern fresh out of college should be given a break with her rooting interests while still a student, and actually welcomed and wished good luck.
I think some people were a bit surprised to watch her work after hearing that she was far and away the best candidate for the position.
She graduated 2 years ago and has been working as a sports reporter in front of the camera for two years, most recently as a sideline reporter for the Trenton Freedom and Suburban One Sports. At what point do people get to critique her as a professional in her industry, rather than an "intern fresh out of college"?
I do wish her the best of luck as she grows into the position, and hope that first interview with Luicci was just "new job nerves". I watched the demo reel on her Facebook page, which was a bit better, but I'm not really a fan so far.
Taryn has Tweeted her support for her and told her welcome to an amazing family.
With regard to RVision, there are open questions regarding hiring and vetting for sure.
With regard to Macy, however, I think we should follow Taryn's example (and I think most people on this thread agree).
With regard to RVision, there are open questions regarding hiring and vetting for sure.
With regard to Macy, however, I think we should follow Taryn's example (and I think most people on this thread agree).
Move on people. The issue, and IMO the only issue, is how she performs in the position she has been hired. She was recommended for the position by someone most of you respect; hired after being interviewed by staff. It may be very likely that she was the most qualified candidate for the position; and, most importantly, if you would look at the product (the videos produced) she is doing a very professional job. For example, her interview with the players a couple of days ago were very well done. No one has stated that her performance has been anything but professional.
In an ideal world, would we all like the position to go to a Rutgers graduate? Yes, but, I would like Rutgers to hire the best qualified candidates for each position. Do we need to go through a list of non-Rutgers graduates who are doing an excellent job at the University. Sometimes, those positions will go to people who went to college or worked for rivals of Rutgers. Sometimes, because they are avid sports fans they may do or say something for the team that they were rooting for at the time that might be embarrassing in hindsight. We know that she is an avid sports fan based upon her social media posts. But, does that mean that they are condemned to languish in future employment because of those fan posts.
In an ideal world, would we all like the position to go to a Rutgers graduate? Yes, but, I would like Rutgers to hire the best qualified candidates for each position. Do we need to go through a list of non-Rutgers graduates who are doing an excellent job at the University. Sometimes, those positions will go to people who went to college or worked for rivals of Rutgers. Sometimes, because they are avid sports fans they may do or say something for the team that they were rooting for at the time that might be embarrassing in hindsight. We know that she is an avid sports fan based upon her social media posts. But, does that mean that they are condemned to languish in future employment because of those fan posts.
Well let's just say the first couple of broadcasts didn't meet with universal acclaim.
I guess I have been watching something different than the universal group you reference.
For the most part, we are not attempting to condemn Macy, despite disagreeing with the hiring of someone outside of R.U. and from a hated rival for a sports-intensive position affiliated with Rutgers U. She is working for RVision now, and will be given a fair shot.
But the fact that she did not think to "scrub" controversial social media posts that would be questionable even when being considered for a similar position at almost any other school, coupled with the fact that the interviewer and those choosing whom to hire either ignored or failed to notice them until fans like us did after the fact, is troubling. That's all.
And as for scrubbing the social media, oh, and it would be better to hire someone who posted something and then went back and removed it so they could get a job. In other words, in effect lying about who they are to get a position. I would rather hire a honest qualified candidate who doesn't hide their past communications and then defend them for being honest.
The world is what it is. Employers now look at social media accounts for prospective hires. Those prospective hires know to clean up their social media accounts prior to their being scrutinized.
The fact is, she was told up front that Rutgers fans had serious issues with all things Penn State. It would have been prudent to clean up her Twitter and Instagram accounts prior to taking the job. It would have been prudent for somebody in Kevin Lorincz's office to assist in that process. Neither of those things were done. Your attempts at rationalization change none of those facts.
So as a result, there was a shitstorm. An entirely, 100% predictable shitstorm. The kind of shitstorm that any competent manager, looking at the situation beforehand, would have anticipated and mitigated.
As I said before, hopefully this is a learning experience. Mistakes were made, so the next steps are to identify the mistakes, isolate the contributing factors and take the necessary action to ensure they're not repeated in the future.
That is how the world works at a certain level of competency and professionalism.
You don't get to say "there's nothing wrong here". That in itself is wrong.
Wouldn't taking something off your social media site that might be considered controversial to a potential employer be a sign you're aware of the trouble it might cause and had the foresight to remove it before it did.
Also if your social media site has something negative on it referring to people connected to a potential employer, wouldn't taking it off be more than a help than hindered when being interview for a position .
Not talking about her supporting Penn St football when they play any school, but what might have been put on her social media concerning other issues .
Sometimes a prospective employee's social media is checked by potential employers and it is considered wise to remove anything that might harm your chances to land the position you're trying for.
It's not dishonest to scrub your social media of the things that might hut your chances to land a job, it's common sense to make sure you put yourself in the best possible light to a potential employer and make sure your social media does the same.
I think the appropriate (and certainly expected) answer to that would be 'nunnayerbizness'.
Feel free to continue believing in your world of ideals, and I'll continue mine in reality. If you don't understand the difference between the common sense act of 'scrubbing' personal social media to avoid controversy with prospective employers, as opposed to the dishonesty of misrepresenting your qualifications/certifications/criminal record/etc., then I can't help you.
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You started this thread claiming that your sources told you that Jon Newman made this hire. You backtracked off that quickly and changed the story based on what you were allegedly told again.
Now you claim that a new employee was specifically told that Rutgers fans had issues with all things Penn State...stated as "fact" by you.
It's quite clear that either you have your own agenda, or people who are telling you things have their own agenda. I feel sorry for anyone who believes the junk you spew.
I waited a couple minutes and no level of caring ever set in, so... I'm just gonna assume that I don't care.
But thanks for caring.
Jeez, you're right, you can't help me. Going back to the sanity on the Round Table. Now I know why I joined, to keep from reading the posts on the free forum. Take care all, see you in the funnies!
That ^^^^ added a lot to this discussion, thank you [winking] .
I respect her. I hope she gets a job and all she deserves for whatever hard work she puts in. But, she really shouldn't be the girl in this position. We shouldn't feel bad for letting her go, we can give her nice reviews and everything. But she's just not the person for the job. This doesn't have to be a charity, stop feeling bad and just hire someone else.
