also Wisconsin was being touted as a 2 seed before their skid so that is how you know they built a very strong resume
Top 16 reveal today
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Really impressed with SDSU, they play really fast and physical. Not sure ANY team in Big10 can keep I=up with them, maybe Illinois. They seemed to have an endless motor, didn't stop for the entire second half.
Try winning 6 or 7 straight in any conference. Includes home and away games. In this year which has the highest % of home court wins at 71% in the last 20 years that is damn impressive and shows mental toughness. If Rutgers won 8 in a row , 6 ina row and then 7 in a row and were 21-4 , you would be clamoring for a 3 seed.
No . It is how are you as a team now. Body of work gets them in the 3,4 range until you look at their last 5 games. Their last 5 games with their only win against next to last Ohio State , they are not a top 16 team. The AP poll did them a favor and did not drop them out but dropped them to 21 which is a 5 seed at best. You can disagree with me but also all the media voters.
Its not how you are now
Its body of work to determine your seeding now
They have 11 q1/2 wins
Ap poll is meaningless
Wrong. It is a snapshot of how you are today. Check it. How many seed lines did we drop going 2-6 down the stretch before beating Michigan in the BIG 10 tourney ? I am waiting to hear you
What is your point? That the Committee doesn't seed properly and should weigh recent games more than early season games?
Its body of work to determine where you are now
Do you realize this is just a reveal..its not march 17
Ru dropped from a possible 7 to out because they lost alot...they didnt have Wisconsin resume..or non confere sos
In fact Rutgers had no ooc win. Mag wasnt coming back. It was an injury. Wisky doesnt have either
Wisconsin built a huge cushion but can fall back with each loss. Probably a 5 now
Do you realize this is just a reveal..its not march 17
Ru dropped from a possible 7 to out because they lost alot...they didnt have Wisconsin resume..or non confere sos
In fact Rutgers had no ooc win. Mag wasnt coming back. It was an injury. Wisky doesnt have either
Wisconsin built a huge cushion but can fall back with each loss. Probably a 5 now
hes trying to compare rutgers freefall without Mag to a bad Wisconsin stretch
For a myriad of reasons its not the same
But each Wisconsin loss will hurt their profile. Are they danger of falling out? 2 wins seal it and that would still at worst put them a 8/9
Wisconsin dropped from a 2 seed to a 4 seed with those 4 losses your mistake is not realizing how insanely good their resume was before those 4 losses
Yes. That is the point. Your favorite team just lost again. A 4 seed does not lose 4-5 or 5 of 6. Just as the Committee misseeds teams in the Big Dance all the time that affects matchups. Rutgers was absolutely screwed out of bid last year , so getting seeding correct makes a huge difference.
Its not March 17...this was done likely by February 15 if not the 14
The fact that Illinois and Wisconsin both was a good sign for the conference but apparently that point was lost on you
What are you talking about , how good their resume was ? They lost to Tennessee , got boatraced by Arizona by 25 , lost to Providence , borderline bubble team by 13 , beat a good Marquette team in a rivalry game and Virginia in a blowout for their out of conference resume. In conference swept Michigan State , split with Nebraska , beat Northwestern , lost against Purdue , have not played Illinois yet, lost to Michigan the worst team in the BIG 10 by a lot , who had lost 10-11 , and Rutgers , who was 11-12 in conference at the time.
Where do you see a team with a # 2 resume ?
You seem kinda mad. They're not my favorite team. The Committee had them as a 4 seed this morning, like it or not. We are just trying to explain their criteria/rationale to you, but apparently it's way over your head.
Obviously if they keep losing they won't be a 4 seed when all is said and done.
Before their skid Matrix had them as possible 2
They had 6 q1 wins they had 10 q1/2 wins before the recent skid. They were 8-1 in league and i believe 15-4 overall. Their only BAD loss even in the skid is Michigan which is still Q2. They haven't lost a game outside q2
That is not the criteria and they were never a 2 seed no matter how many times BAC says so. Why do you think I am mad when I just hit you with facts not illusion ? The team we played a week ago and boatraced by 22 was not a 4 seed where the Committee put them , Seems pretty factual to me studying resume and watching them.
Its amazing how upset he was over the reveal. Its not a big deal. Its something fun to watch to see their early thinking but this level of ange i dont know
All we are doing is explaining the whys. Wisconsin did very well in non conference play. So carolina didnt and neither did Dayton
You clearly arent functioning
on February 1 they were 16-3/8-1 with 6 quad 1 wins and 10 q/2 which led the country with a top 10 schedule. They were considered a possible last 2 seed over Marquette who they beat by the way
Facts don’t work on you. Deflect and read anger into an internet post. You are a genius.
I dont do bracketology in January but others do
At the time their resume was amazingly sick
I just gave you the facts..16-3 6 quad1 win 10 q1/2
Yes in two and half weeks they have annexed 0 Q1 wins and 1 q2 over a bad ohio state
Is that a prediction? 😅. Sorry low hanging fruit.
BTW I appreciate the analysis… good insight.
After last season i want to cover bases
5% a good rule
There is a scenario out there where Nebby cant win a Big 10 game the road and Berry less Northwestern tanks a la Rutgers last season while Rutgers falls short and voila only 4 dance
5% a good rule
There is a scenario out there where Nebby cant win a Big 10 game the road and Berry less Northwestern tanks a la Rutgers last season while Rutgers falls short and voila only 4 dance
Oh look South Carolina drops 2nd quad 3 SEC home game to awful LSU
Net 50 probably drops 5-8 spots in the NET
BUT HOW COULD THEY BE A 4 SEED!
Net 50 probably drops 5-8 spots in the NET
BUT HOW COULD THEY BE A 4 SEED!
You dropping Wisconsin and Marquette who got boatraced byUconn today as well? Then of course they drop. But unlike Wisconsin who had lost 4-5 , South Carolina had only lost 1 game after winning 7 straight conference games. Just a little different.
South Carolina has a net of 50 which will be mid 50s...wisconsin will be low 20s tomorrow.
South Carolina played a horrible non conference schedule and best there is Grand Canyon...they have 2 Q3 losses to LSU and Georgia. They are hanging onto a 5 seed right now and with their upcoming schedule its going to just keep going down
well thats how things work, its day to day
Dayton, Creighton, and Clemson were the other 3 schools that just missed out on that last 4. Personally I would go with Clemson but could see the Creighton argument.
South Carolina wasnt in contention for the last 4 by the way
Marquette is still a 2 today but its very close with Iowa State. Wisconsin a 5, South Carolina a 5
body of work and each game is part of that but only part of that
I've seen SDSU in person 4 times this year (I think). They are extremely tough when they are on their game. Ledee is a complete monster. Even if you don't think he's having a good game you look up and see he's got 20 and 10
