Tweets between T.Hunt and a Bergen Cath. player
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This kid didn't have the credentials that James and Burton had. Not. Even. Close.
As I've said before, as a Bergen Catholic alum and legacy, I can say with almost 100% certainty that Rutgers and BC will NEVER have a pipeline type relationship. Some of you get this. There is a certain type of kid that goes to Bergen: It is the kid that has parents that view going to Rutgers as an abject failure. Their kid can go to inferior schools, like Fairfield or Scranton, but so long as it is not Rutgers they feel good about themselves and their decision to send their kid to Bergen (btw, I believe this phenomenon not to be limited solely to Bergen Catholic, but also expands and includes all of Bergen County, especially Northern Bergen County). It's simply a longstanding fact and state of mind that will never go away, no matter who the coach is.
In view of that, I'm not saying that we should "blackball" Bergen kids (assuming that is even true), but I do appreciate not bending over backwards to create a relationship where none will ever exist, unless, of course, we become a powerhouse. If we become a powerhouse, then the Bergen kids will come begging, because that's the type of people that go to that school...
In view of that, I'm not saying that we should "blackball" Bergen kids (assuming that is even true), but I do appreciate not bending over backwards to create a relationship where none will ever exist, unless, of course, we become a powerhouse. If we become a powerhouse, then the Bergen kids will come begging, because that's the type of people that go to that school...
Good post. Look at wrestling. We now have a top 20 program competing well in the best conference in the country. We have 2 big time commits from BC (Mulligan and Grello) in our next class. In football, we have a built in disadvantage attracting these kids compared to Notre Dame and Boston College. Like Volt states, if Ash gets RU to where I think he will, Rutgers will look much more attractive to BC's top recruits.
You would think that if that's the way they feel, they would send their kids to Andover, Exeter, or Lawrenceville. Otherwise, the Bergen Catholic-looking-down-at-Rutgers thing has me pretty perplexed. And I don't go out of my way to defend Rutgers, but jeez...
You assume they'd get in.
What I don't understand is why It seems to be somewhat unique to Bergen. Bosco, Joes, DePaul all have sent kids to Rutgers over the years, and not just 2 stars.
Never let ego get in the way of productivity.
I leave it to Ash and his staff to evaluate this relationship and how best to manage it on their own. I'm pretty sure they know the real score on the Korab Idrizi fiasco, and whether or not to do a complete end-around on the Bergen Catholic coaching staff in order to make New Jersey's top football talent know that they are beloved by their own state's flagship, Big Ten University. It would be wise to bear in mind that it's not the school that did this; it was Campanile and/or Idrizi. The former may be coaching somewhere else in a year, and I'm guessing that 95% of the folks around here wouldn't want "Rutgers" held accountable for any perceived recruiting slights of Kyle Flood. If we have any self-esteem at all, we're totally indifferent to the grandstanding of some pokey, upstate parochial school's coaching staff. We're a member of the Big Ten Conference and New Jersey's State University; we don't get into pissing contests with disgruntled, provincial catholic school football coaches.
There are times when it seems like some of us are just looking to get into a fight, even when one isn't warranted.
I agree with this. But I will say this-there is SO MUCH freaking talent within a 4 hour drive, heck, a two hour drive of the school that we can afford to wait out BC until they either get on board or have no choice to send kids to us because that's what the kids want. We are positioned better than I could have expected in recruiting at this point.
I'm confident in the future and I'm also confident enough that when BC recruits want to be invited to join in on the action that the builders of this program have already begun, Ash will answer that knock. Until then, I'm sure Ash will bring in the best recruits that want to be at RU.
BC is only a small piece of a larger RU puzzle. Historically, they've been absent from the puzzle. IMO, not worth the drama at this early phase.
BC is only a small piece of a larger RU puzzle. Historically, they've been absent from the puzzle. IMO, not worth the drama at this early phase.
What Ash and company need to do is go where they are celebrated, and not tolerated. If the BC kids don't come, then they don't come. RU can keep recruiting them, and if they say no, then move on. If Nunzio tries to push a kid that's not worthy of a scholarship to RU, and then uses it as an excuse to not send his players here, then that's an irrational flaw he has to deal with, not this coaching staff. BC is just one school in NJ, there's an entire state that this staff has to recruit to. Why cater to a small few of silver spoon cry baby prima donnas, who never pissed on the palms of their hands after bloodying and hardening them in the first place? It's a waste of time, it's a waste of time. Move on already.
Can't say that I've read all the threads but let's be objective, CA fired Nunzio's brother (or at least demoted him to a non coaching position), "blood is thicker than water" is there probably going to be some bad feeling on this one?probably when the smoke clears this will probably run it's course, and quite frankly bad blood does neither program any good.
Good post and it applies more broadly both beyond Bergen county, and football, at Rutgers
It's definitely not a bergen county thing. I graduated Rutgers in the past decade, and there were a ton of bergen county guys there. Agree with everything else you said about Bergen catholic though. By the way, a couple of guys in my dorm freshman year who went to Bergen were from New Milford. Definitely not the type of town that looks down on people.
Having gone to Catholic schools in NY and now with my kids having friends who've attending the Catholic schools here in NJ, there are two sets of kids who attend these schools. There are the kids who grew up in Catholic families and have attended Catholic schools their entire lives and view the Jesuit/Dominican Colleges as the optimal next step. I know a few kids in my neighborhood who are headed to Notre Dame, Fordham, BC, Scranton, Seton Hall, etc. It is what they know, it is where their high schools lead them, it is the affiliations. Perhaps the kid that flipped to Boston College citing his "dream school" is one of these kids. It should not be taken personally. Then there are the kids who may or may not be Catholic, but their parents want them to attend private schools (but cheaper than an MKA, Newark Academy) with more structure and discipline. Those are the kids that would consider RU as much as anywhere else. Your coach will recruit the best he can from wherever he can and if that is at Bergen C, he will recruit him too. That's my "unwelcomed" 2cents:)
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