Apples and oranges ? OK, but one has a HC job in the B1G and the other has been sitting home doing nothing but making breakfast for his kids for two years.
Unlike Greg Schiano, Rutgers coach Kyle Flood welcomes NFL scouts at practice
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Apples and oranges ? OK, but one has a HC job in the B1G and the other has been sitting home doing nothing but making breakfast for his kids for two years.
The most important work that GS did at Rutgers were the intangibles of creating a framework for continued success with RU football. Based on Kyles successfully running of the program so far I would say Schiano succeeded HUGE. When he took over the job of HC for Rutgers it truly was where coaches went to let their careers die. Mulcahy was a visionary in seeing how taking a young, unproven coach was the right choice in resurrecting RU football. If it were not for Greg, We might not be in the B1G right now! We have a lot to be thankful for in his hiring. With that said, he was very focused and brusque even to the fans at times. I am sure it was a lot of pressure to turn around an entire program.
]His career record was 1 game over .500. I'd say 11 years of coaching at a job is a big enough body of work to make the statement that he is an average coach with that record, no? You want to throw the first two seasons out the window? Then I'm going to heavily scruitinize 2010, the awful losses to UL, WVU and UCONN in 2011 which cost us the conference championship and the 1-5 start in 2008 all while playing what we are coming to find out was the equivalent of a mid major schedule those 3 seasons. All three of those years should have been much better than they turned out. I'm not saying the guy is an ahole or is a bad person off the field. I'm saying he did a great job resurrecting a terrible program from the dead but never took the next step to championship level. Id say that is a fair assessment.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you do have to throw out the 1st 3 or 4 years as RU was a total rebuild after the Shea debacle. After qualifying for a bowl in 2005, which was huge in RU's resurgence, they continued to go to bowls and finish above .500 every year except for 2010 (LeGrand's injury against Army after which they did not win another game). There was a reason that other programs wanted to hire him and he got a job in the NFL and it was not because what he did at RU was mediocre. You sound like a guy who thought 2006 was going to last forever and we had suddenly turned into Clemson. If only things were so easy in major college football.
Yes, you do have to throw out the 1st 3 or 4 years as RU was a total rebuild after the Shea debacle. After qualifying for a bowl in 2005, which was huge in RU's resurgence, they continued to go to bowls and finish above .500 every year except for 2010 (LeGrand's injury against Army after which they did not win another game). There was a reason that other programs wanted to hire him and he got a job in the NFL and it was not because what he did at RU was mediocre. You sound like a guy who thought 2006 was going to last forever and we had suddenly turned into Clemson. If only things were so easy in major college football.
Definitely fair Boogie. As a Defensive coordinator, Schiano is a fantastic coach, and his tenacity and mental toughness were required to build this program literally from scratch to be competitive in big time college football. I don't think any of us could begin to understand the adversity he faced in this process nor could many of us understand the necessity to be such a hardass at times. However, Schiano, with a few exceptions sometimes failed miserably on game day, especially in big games due to his rigidity and need for control. He reached his ceiling here and was not gonna take RU to the next level. Yet and still I am grateful for what Schiano did for RU football, there may have been nobody else who could have done it.
Wait, what? NFL scouts were at practice this week?
Is that normal for scouts to come to fall practice before season?
Not sure why I never heard that before.
Is that normal for scouts to come to fall practice before season?
Not sure why I never heard that before.
If people are going to go on and on about Coach Schiano, they should at least get his first name right.
Might be sitting at home, but recognized as the HC that made RU into a respectable program and good enough to become a B1G one.
We'll see if he stays a couch coach or on the sidelines as a HC next season, my guess is sidelines.
The qualities that make for good coaches and program builders don't necessarily make for great people. Does anyone honestly believe that Saban, Meyer, and Belichick aren't control freaks like Schiano was? The bottom line with Schiano is this: he changed the conversation and expectations around Rutgers football. Before he got here, people considered a bowl game appearance to be a distant and unattainable Holy Grail. Now the minimum expectation is that Rutgers will not only get to a bowl, but win it.
