Was firing gleeson mid-season the right call?

[MADHAT1]

No. Nothing improved after he was canned. We could have went 1-5 with him too and just fired him today.
It appears he was a scapegoat for nebraska game , which was a bad game by Gleeson.
schiano also had said many times gleeson will be a head coach at this level one day .

thanks.
But I must disagree,
Something was needed to get the O going because it was ranked around #108 in total offense and at 104 scoring.at the time.
So a move was needed to be made and in my opinion replacing the OC was the obvious move rather finding someone else to blame for the dismal performance.
Just like gutting the O staff this off season and replacing most has to be a priority
in order to find a way to move the chains and put points up next season.

Campanile needs to find another program to show the potential he's supposed to have and not get move back and forth like he has had happen to him at RU and winding up leading a motley crew to losses .
That's no fault of his own, Rutgers put him in positions he most likely wouldn't be successful at when moved into interim positions that had more going again success than likelihood of a successful outcome .
He needs a fresh start away from Rutgers, in my opinion

The rest of the O staff, RU needs to start over without them.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

No. Nothing improved after he was canned. We could have went 1-5 with him too and just fired him today.
It appears he was a scapegoat for nebraska game , which was a bad game by Gleeson.
schiano also had said many times gleeson will be a head coach at this level one day .

First time Schiano has let a coach go before the end of the season. The reason the move was made midseason was already given in this thread.

 

[jakeknight]

It seems that we couldn’t have done much worse if Gleason was left in place until season end, really don’t know the interplay between GS and SG, philosophical differences? Scheme differences? or personality issues?
It appeared the offense never developed a clear direction the injuries to the QB’s certainly didn’t help. Plus the offensive line and lack of a strong receiver group didn’t help either.

 

[SkilletHead2]

You never know what goes on behind the scenes. If GS and SG were battling over direction, then it was a good move. If it was, "well, somebody has to go and it ain't gonna be me", then no, it wasn't a good decision. It certainly looked like a move made out of some level of desperation; I didn't like it.

 

[Bleed_Scarlet]

We didn’t do Nunzio any favors by making him interim OC.

He was put in a situation where he couldn’t succeed and he didn’t - that’s hardly the way you treat a valued employee

 

[AdventureHasAName]

You never know what goes on behind the scenes. If GS and SG were battling over direction, then it was a good move. If it was, "well, somebody has to go and it ain't gonna be me", then no, it wasn't a good decision. It certainly looked like a move made out of some level of desperation; I didn't like it.

It looked to me like a guy who had been told "We're up two TDs and they can't score, don't do anything stupid," who proceeded to do lots of stupid things during the remainder of the game. It seemed obvious that it was a head coach who said to himself, "this guy just doesn't get it." We could have took a knee for three downs and then punted the ball for the entire second half and still beat Nebraska.

 

[MGSA99]

Maryland went for it on 4th down 4 times because they knew we couldn't move the ball. No risk at all. They still converted all 4. We converted ONE 3rd down.

 

[RURod]

No

 

[rudad02]

I don’t think so, but Schiano needed a scapegoat for the team’s poor play. He needs to keep his nose out of any offensive decisions.

Amen!

 

[essexknight]

Parting after the season would have been better. It looked like an act of desperation and creating a scapegoat to do it in season. The results on the field did not really change anyway.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Parting after the season would have been better. It looked like an act of desperation and creating a scapegoat to do it in season. The results on the field did not really change anyway.

It would have been worse, as someone posted above Gleeson was starting to lose players in the locker room.

 

[jtung230]

Parting after the season would have been better. It looked like an act of desperation and creating a scapegoat to do it in season. The results on the field did not really change anyway.

We beat Indiana right after

 

[Plum Street]

It would have been worse, as someone posted above Gleeson was starting to lose players in the locker room.

How much worse could it have been ? I mean we got shutout by Minnesota and Maryland.

 

[NickRU714]

We beat Indiana right after

Offence scored 17 points and racked up 300 yards.
A terrible performance.

Every other opponent scored more points and accumulated more yards against Indiana.
Not a good example of some sort of improvement after OC Gleeson was let go.

 

[NickRU714]

It looked to me like a guy who had been told "We're up two TDs and they can't score, don't do anything stupid," who proceeded to do lots of stupid things during the remainder of the game. It seemed obvious that it was a head coach who said to himself, "this guy just doesn't get it." We could have took a knee for three downs and then punted the ball for the entire second half and still beat Nebraska.

What stupid things? Calling pass plays?
I've pointed out before - the 3 interceptions were all in obvious passing downs (3nd and long or end of the game trying to score). Unless you literally mean we should have just gone run, run, run, punt all 2nd half.
Which worked out great the rest of the season.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

How much worse could it have been ? I mean we got shutout by Minnesota and Maryland.

The Indiana game would have been a toss up for starters.

 

[Plum Street]

The Indiana game would have been a toss up for starters.

It was a toss up anyway . The defense won that game and had the winning score
You can’t tell me the Maryland and Minnesota games would have been any worse with gleeson .

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

It was a toss up anyway . The defense won that game and had the winning score
You can’t tell me the Maryland and Minnesota games would have been any worse with gleeson .

Gleeson would never have started Sam Brown and you would have been seeing the circus QB carousel still. You think the defense was going to win that game with the offense doing nothing? Minnesota probably puts up 70+ on RU with Gleeson still here running the offense. It would have snowballed badly from there each week but believe what you want. I guess you didn't learn anything during the Ash years of how bad things look when players quit on coaches.

 

[jtung230]

How much worse could it have been ? I mean we got shutout by Minnesota and Maryland.

It’s call pick 6

 

[Plum Street]

Gleeson would never have started Sam Brown and you would have been seeing the circus QB carousel still. You think the defense was going to win that game with the offense doing nothing? Minnesota probably puts up 70+ on RU with Gleeson still here running the offense. It would have snowballed badly from there each week but believe what you want. I guess you didn't learn anything during the Ash years of how bad things look when players quit on coaches.

I am not defending gleeson , but there is no reason to defend the performance after his firing.
0 points against a middling team in this conference . Twice !! Is good and not quitting on the coaches ?

 

[Plum Street]

Gleeson would never have started Sam Brown and you would have been seeing the circus QB carousel still. You think the defense was going to win that game with the offense doing nothing? Minnesota probably puts up 70+ on RU with Gleeson still here running the offense. It would have snowballed badly from there each week but believe what you want. I guess you didn't learn anything during the Ash years of how bad things look when players quit on coaches.

If you look at the film of that Minnesota game the effort was beyond pathetic . Just look at how the receivers and TE played in that game.

 

[jtung230]

Neb is giving Rhule 7mm for coaches pool. We are doomed

 

[Plum Street]

Neb is giving Rhule 7mm for coaches pool. We are doomed

Inground pool I guess ? We are more of an above-ground pool school . Or maybe run through the fire hydrants type school

 

[jtung230]

Inground pool I guess ? We are more of an above-ground pool school . Or maybe run through the fire hydrants type school

Slip n slide is fun

 

[colbert17]

A lot of revisionist history here regarding people's feelings about SG.
After Nebraska his supporters on this board were few and far between. Just a thread to stir up some implications that "Greg was wrong about this too" sentiment.
Hey but what do I know. In another thread I was accused of wanting us to be like Temple because I stated the fact that Temple improved during the season.

 

[RUKiid]

No way it was the right call. The offense regressed even further without him. Not a fan of the move.

 

[RU Cheese]

Not mutually exclusive. Gleason stunk and needed to go. But the way it was done, very reactionary and almost a panic move, doesn't sit well with me. There was no backup plan - it's not like they used the extra time to look for new OC - and replacing him with a nice guy who has no real coordinating credentials isn't exactly a good move. Oh and we didn't get better.

If there was tension or he lost the team or something then you can make the case. But Greg is the coach. This is on him no matter what

 

[Rufaninga]

No way it was the right call. The offense regressed even further without him. Not a fan of the move.

It was fine. Gave other coaches chance to rise up and meet the challenge. Staff didn't.
Joes vs Jimmies, but staff was 100% responsible for last 3 recruits cycles.

Offense was bottom of D1 bad. Time for a change.

 

[colbert17]

Our passing game consists of two routes. A five yard out pattern and a sideline go route where we try to put it in between the corner and safety. That's it.
The few times we threw a slant resulted in a couple of big plays. Sitting 9,000 miles away watching on a computer screen I can see this, why can't our multi million dollar coaching staff?
Hey, but what do I know.

 

[RUKiid]

It was fine. Gave other coaches chance to rise up and meet the challenge. Staff didn't.
How's vs Jimmies, but staff was 100% responsible for last 3 recruits cycles.

Offense was bottom of D1 bad. Time for a

Agree. You can’t pay coaches that perform this poorly