We were # 205 in Segarin before playing Drexel. We jumped 53 spots after the win. Segarin does not count games against D-2 teams so Molloy is not included. We just need to keep moving on up.
We jumped to #152 in Segarin.
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The needle is starting to move a bit on kenpom...we are now at a expected record of 14-17.
Fordham is now 55% and Stony Brook is 46%
Penn State at home is now moved to 51%
be forwarned....a WTF loss has a decent chance of coming
Niagara 87%
North Texas 79%
Hartford 92%
Morgan state 94%
CT CT 93%
FDU 80%
Our chances of going 6-0 vs. bunch is 44%.
Fordham is now 55% and Stony Brook is 46%
Penn State at home is now moved to 51%
be forwarned....a WTF loss has a decent chance of coming
Niagara 87%
North Texas 79%
Hartford 92%
Morgan state 94%
CT CT 93%
FDU 80%
Our chances of going 6-0 vs. bunch is 44%.
Well, to be fair, those chances are based on a very small 2016-17 sample size and colored by the 2015-16 final results. If we beat Niagara and North Texas, I'd imagine those numbers will continue to climb as the current year's data begins to supplant the prior year's data.
not quite...there is some look at how a team could have improved or got worse from last year. However you are right the #s are more based on that vs. actual on court performance on a small sample size.
There are flaws in everything...our last 10 minute slip up DePaul probably cost us 10 spots as our victory was less decisive.
We need to beat Niagara by more than 12 and North Texas by more than 11 to move the needle. A team ranked #160 is expected to beat those teams by that margin at home. A team ranked #100 beats them by 17 and 16 points.
We need to beat Niagara by more than 12 and North Texas by more than 11 to move the needle. A team ranked #160 is expected to beat those teams by that margin at home. A team ranked #100 beats them by 17 and 16 points.
I still like the rendition of "Moving on Up" from the Jeffersons' TV show. We also definitely need to win the 6 games listed by GRF plus Stony Brook and Fordham. We just must only take one game at a time otherwise we could lose a game that we should not lose. At this point the guys seem hungry and are all working for each other. I think this coaching staff will keep them on task.
I have a pen ready to sign up for 7-1 for those 8 games.
A 10-3 OOC 5-13 B1G win game 1 of B1G tournament and get to 16-16 and then pull the fire alarm and finish the season at .500
Who are the three non-conference losses? What are the five conference wins?
I'm thinking Penn State at home, Minnesota at home, Illinois at home, Iowa at home and Northwestern at home. I could see Rutgers having a good chance of taking Penn State on the road. Also, I like Rutgers chances at Iowa. Right now Iowa doesn't play great defense and their guard play isn't strong.
its not going to easy to win all those swing games, Id be careful with that. Can we? yes but we need to see this team and how they respond against better competition. What we have faced currently is sisters of the poor.
I think you know what I mean. But for our past, I guess every single game can be considered a test.
You have been a fan for awhile...nothing gets taken for granted. If 7-19 from 3 yesterday turns in to 3-19 you never know.Biggest difference...Niagara was 10-43 from 2 point shots. I think defense does show up most nights.
On any given day, I know. But I looked at this as a mini 6 game season to start. We had games that we "should" win (like I said you never know), but DePaul on the road was a +1 win for me, because of our history on the road. We passed that test. Miami is a step up in competition, which will be an interesting test to see how we handle this, also on the road.
But I do know what you are saying. We never should take anyone for granted here.
I agree about the defense. The stats in the first half yesterday were, however, a little puzzling given the score. We shot 49% from the floor, had a commanding lead on the glass, held Niagara to 30% shooting over all (with both teams shooting about 50% from 3), were tied in TOs and yet only led by 5 at the break. Part of that was Niagara's FT shooting and the fact they hit 1 more three than RU, but still those stats suggested a much bigger lead for RU.
Every game at this point is not a given. This weekend we will be favored in both games but they are the day before and the day after Thanksgiving. Strange things happen near the holidays when kids want to be with their family and may not be as focused on games. We need to get these 2 W's and than play well at Miami. Our 2 toughest OOC games by far are at Miami and at SHU. We need to win against Fordham and Stony Brook too which will be away from the RAC. We must still take one at a time but with luck we could finish even 11-2 in OOC if we just focus on one at a time. As for the BIG games, don't forget about our home game with Nebraska. I think we have a legit shot against Penn State, Northwestern, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota & Illinois all at home. I'm not saying we will win all 6 of those but if we can stay healthy and keep focused we will have a decent chance to get a W in each of those games. We need to establish that the RAC is "Our House" once again. Bring on those Pikesicles for coach and Big Heads for the players. Games can be a fun experience once again.
It is great to hear that we are now #126 in Segarin. "Moving On Up".
It is great to hear that we are now #126 in Segarin. "Moving On Up".
3 kenpom stats that are interesting
1. #9 in 2pt fg% against 35.9%
2. #18 in defensive block %. We swat 17.9% of opponents FGA
3. #271 in minutes continuity. 37.7% of minutes were played by people who played them last year. 48.5% is current average for all teams
1. #9 in 2pt fg% against 35.9%
2. #18 in defensive block %. We swat 17.9% of opponents FGA
3. #271 in minutes continuity. 37.7% of minutes were played by people who played them last year. 48.5% is current average for all teams
add #4
4. tempo 68.9 possessions per game which is #304.
a. we are digging in more on the defensive end resulting in longer possessions
b. relatively patient offensively
c. seen our share of zones
d. we aren't doing a good job of getting out in transition offensively
4. tempo 68.9 possessions per game which is #304.
a. we are digging in more on the defensive end resulting in longer possessions
b. relatively patient offensively
c. seen our share of zones
d. we aren't doing a good job of getting out in transition offensively
That makes me say,
What is the usefulness of these rankings?
Almost seem meaningless.
GRF, Just keep those stats coming. I really think we are better than Tulsa. They are really struggling so far. I think Etou made a mistake in leaving but I like the play & the attitude of our small forwards that we have now.
hate to say it but Miami is going to be ugly. they will turn us over, an aggressive defensive team we have seen nothing like. the freshman guard Bruce Brown turned away Indiana, Purdue, and others. they have a transfer who hasn't played yet that would probably be the best offensive player on our team, and he will probably be coming off their bench.
I've watched you post several times about what Rutgers isn't going to do. Do you have anything positive to add?:confused:
looking at Tulsa i would definitely agree with you. They went to the NCAAs last year, but......
They were all seniors. This year they are 345th in minutes continuity. 17.9% are being played by the minutes of last year.
Looking at body of work this year.....
Loss by 11 @ home to #284 Jacksonville State
Loss by 27 @ #24 Witchita state
Win by 9 @ home vs #305 New orleans.
They are clearly getting credit for what guys who are graduated accomplished. Definite flaws in the algorithims. Whenever past data gets thrown out completely we get a better feel.
I've been pretty positive and enjoying the success
Lot of reality will set in with many of you with Seton Hall and Miami though
Forgot other factors.....we beat Niagara by exactly 12 but the needle moved +8. DePaul and Drexel both won and moved higher making us look better
Most if not all had us struggling to beat Miami and SHU, so we know the reality. Actually some, including myself thought we would struggle at DePaul. Give fans some credit, many here know basketball, and we are enjoying this team so far.
Guess no one caught the radio post game interview with Nigel Johnson on Sunday. He went with the dreaded 1-0 every game reference."North Texas? We're just looking to be 1-0."
I really look forward to seeing Rutgers play Miami. There is much upside to the team and so many guys who can score and contribute in other ways. Their physicality and athleticism is a significant improvement over past teams and I think an upgrade in competition will bring out the best , especially in the guard play.
I really look forward to seeing Rutgers play Miami. There is much upside to the team and so many guys who can score and contribute in other ways. Their physicality and athleticism is a significant improvement over past teams and I think an upgrade in competition will bring out the best , especially in the guard play.
