We're # 11

[Kbee3]

Holy crap.
I know it's just a bunch of verbals and decommits happen and we've got a greater percentage of our spots in the 2017 class filled than most other schools.
But, damn.....#11 ?????
Has THAT ever happened before at Rutgers ?
Me like this Ash guy so far.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

We would have been ranked at #1 if he had Jersey Roots.

 

[Yeah Baby]

Schiano has a class that was ranked #2 or #7 early on when he landed Berkley Hutchinson and Will Gilkison. They were both highly rated and early commits.

 

[Kbee3]

Schiano has a class that was ranked #2 or #7 early on when he landed Berkley Hutchinson and Will Gilkison. They were both highly rated and early commits.

I'm not remembering RU ever being ranked quite that high.

 

[newwavedave1]

Ash has surely exceeded everyone's expectations. Next up is our play on the field and how that translates to wins/losses. Fingers crossed! :pray:

 

[knights1212]

Ash and his staff are definitely getting it done. I don't remember our team ranking with Schiano ever being ranked this high.

 

[RUchip]

What recruiting site is ranking us 11?

 

[jorand]

What recruiting site is ranking us 11?

Rivals: 11th

 

[eceres]

We even made 22 on ESPN formula.

 

[RBNY87]

If you rank by star average, what number are we? That is a better barometer of our final ranking.

 

[ron313]

If you rank by star average, what number are we? That is a better barometer of our final ranking.

Low 30, but our average star for top 20 recruits used in final will be higher and pass a few teams. Top 30 with bo and another 4 star or two. Top 25 still very much a possibility.

Much better barometer for sure, but our class has a lot of talent as it stands now and we're not close to done.

 

[RBNY87]

Low 30, but our average star for top 20 recruits used in final will be higher and pass a few teams. Top 30 with bo and another 4 star or two. Top 25 still very much a possibility.

Much better barometer for sure, but our class has a lot of talent as it stands now and we're not close to done.

I am very happy with this class because he has changed the perception in NJ and recruiting NJ is a huge part of our future success and are competitive advantage. Very similar with Maryland in there home state. I am less worried about rankings as i see limitations with certain players.

 

[Yeah Baby]

I'm not remembering RU ever being ranked quite that high.

I have no proof and my memory may be a little off but we were ranked very high around this time for that class. Back then, if you had 5 kids signed in June you were doing great. We had 2 4 stars. I don't care enough to dig out the rankings but trust me we were rated very high.

 

[oldman87]

If you rank by star average, what number are we? That is a better barometer of our final ranking.

Actually, Rivals average star ranking is the most misleading barometer simply because it doesn't consider the huge gap between a high 5.7 3 star who is a national recruit and a low 5.5 3 star who is a regional recruit, the national ranking of 3 stars can range from #317 to #1262, same applies to 4 stars but to a lesser extent (#22 to #316). A better barometer would be to use Rivals ratings which I believe is where the points assigned in the team ranking derives from, even then it is still way too broad as a 5.5 rating can range from #801 to #1262. This is why the 247 composite is generally considered the more accurate system because not only does it take the average of ratings from all major recruiting services, it breaks it down to the thousandth decimal point.

 

[huskersalways]

Actually, Rivals average star ranking is the most misleading barometer simply because it doesn't consider the huge gap between a high 5.7 3 star who is a national recruit and a low 5.5 3 star who is a regional recruit, the national ranking of 3 stars can range from #317 to #1262, same applies to 4 stars but to a lesser extent (#22 to #316). A better barometer would be to use Rivals ratings which I believe is where the points assigned in the team ranking derives from, even then it is still way too broad as a 5.5 rating can range from #801 to #1262. This is why the 247 composite is generally considered the more accurate system because not only does it take the average of ratings from all major recruiting services, it breaks it down to the thousandth decimal point.

I agree that the composite team rankings is hands down the best way to look at the team stuff.
Last year I sat down and started comparing Rivals, 24/7, and Scouts rankings on the player end of it. People are always posting about "well he's a 4* on the other service" stuff. What I found was that Rivals has the fewest number of 3*s compared to the other 2. Both Scout and 24/7 have more 4 stars also. The difference was that Rivals had way more 2*s than the other 2 did. 24/7 had the fewest 2*s and had the largest number of 3*s by far. Very few players, compared to the other services were 2*s on 24/7. They had a lot more low rated 3*s vs 2* players. Rivals(to me) seemed to have the best balance as far as break down. A low 3* on 24/7 seems to be a high 2* on Rivals. Scout had a pattern that was very similar to 24/7.
I think overall 24/7 does a better job of team stuff but Rivals does better on player ratings. Of course it's all just opinions anyway. Haha

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

quantity over quality. It won't mean much in terms of ranking come February from a rankings perspective. Still a great class though.

 

[oldman87]

I agree that the composite team rankings is hands down the best way to look at the team stuff.
Last year I sat down and started comparing Rivals, 24/7, and Scouts rankings on the player end of it. People are always posting about "well he's a 4* on the other service" stuff. What I found was that Rivals has the fewest number of 3*s compared to the other 2. Both Scout and 24/7 have more 4 stars also. The difference was that Rivals had way more 2*s than the other 2 did. 24/7 had the fewest 2*s and had the largest number of 3*s by far. Very few players, compared to the other services were 2*s on 24/7. They had a lot more low rated 3*s vs 2* players. Rivals(to me) seemed to have the best balance as far as break down. A low 3* on 24/7 seems to be a high 2* on Rivals. Scout had a pattern that was very similar to 24/7.
I think overall 24/7 does a better job of team stuff but Rivals does better on player ratings. Of course it's all just opinions anyway. Haha

It's an inexact science for sure, my main point was that the average star ranking is the most misleading stat to look at (on this site or otherwise) because it's way too broad where a team with mostly 5.7 3 stars would rank the same as a team with mostly 5.5 3 stars, don't understand why Rivals even have that column on their team ranking page, it's useless information for the most part.

 

[huskersalways]

It's an inexact science for sure, my main point was that the average star ranking is the most misleading stat to look at (on this site or otherwise) because it's way too broad where a team with mostly 5.7 3 stars would rank the same as a team with mostly 5.5 3 stars, don't understand why Rivals even have that column on their team ranking page, it's useless information for the most part.

I don't disagree with you there at all. 24/7 uses a more "per player" ranking for individuals but I think some of their player ranking are way off both in a to high and to low aspect a lot more than Rivals. I just think as far as ranking the players Rivals does a better job but I also think they have more people looking at the same player and come up with their ranking that way.

 

[Kbee3]

Rivals: 11th

Well...that didn't last long. We're now down to #13....one spot ahead of Miami, Fla.
Not too shabby though. Especially for a rookie head coach....with no local ties.

 

[PRH_RU]

#fireAsh. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

He is doing great. Hopefully it builds
During the season.

 

[Sec 127]

I understand and buy into the concept of average star rating being a better predictor of a class. However, a lot of the top teams haven't filled their class and will probably take the lion's share of 4 and 5 stars. Meaning, a lot of the teams behind RU may have to go to Plan B and not be able to fill their class with the same rated players as they are currently averaging. I am not saying that RU's class will end up in the Top 15, but it may not fall as far as some are predicting.
Either way, for the first time in a couple of years, the class is full of B1G size and speed.

 

[HeyHuey]

The guys on both sides of the line are the meat and potatoes of this paradigm shift. Especially the size of the D-line. Speed doesn't kill like it used to. Speed is a luxury. We need big beef and next year we need better big beef. As far as offense goes. As good as we may develop at any one position if we can't pull them together and run this spread offense it is going to be painful to watch.

 

[RUBand]

I could not be happier with all that has happened so far, the long-term future is certainly looking good,