What's up with the PSU Flags Flying at Texas Arizona Bar in Hoboken?
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It's Hoboken. What do you expect? Half that town is not from NJ or went to school outside NJ.
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I walk by Texas Arizona every morning on my way to the Path/Ferry. Not only do they have PSU flags up hanging over the entrance, they also have a huge banner on the railing facing the Path trains. Basically, when you come up the stairs into NJ off the Path train into Hoboken, the first thing you see is a large blue and white PSU banner.
Cadillac Cantina, which is the same ownership as TA is right next door, and they have RU flags and signs, but it's not nearly as visible as the obnoxious PSU banner. I'd be lying if i said it didn't bug me.
Cadillac Cantina, which is the same ownership as TA is right next door, and they have RU flags and signs, but it's not nearly as visible as the obnoxious PSU banner. I'd be lying if i said it didn't bug me.
that will never happen [bar close due to loss of RU business]. that bar is a PSU outpost, as is Miami Mikes on Route 10 in East Hanover.
There are more PSU fans in Hoboken than RU fans. That town is like a giant PSU frat & sorority reunion....
Not so sure about that, but regardless, all RU fans should boycott the bar 24x7x365
I see that stupid flag everyday and it bothers me to no end. Such a visible location in NJ!
And there are a lot of PSU fans in Hoboken, but definitely not more than RU - i dont think its even close. Every person that goes to PSU becomes a huge football fan and goes all out every Sat, while the RU fans are still kind of weak in that regard. More and more RU alumns have come up now (since 2006) with a competitive team and football being more a part of their college experience.
And there are a lot of PSU fans in Hoboken, but definitely not more than RU - i dont think its even close. Every person that goes to PSU becomes a huge football fan and goes all out every Sat, while the RU fans are still kind of weak in that regard. More and more RU alumns have come up now (since 2006) with a competitive team and football being more a part of their college experience.
If anyone is still in Hoboken that graduated before 2006, it's time to move on.
Hoboken has changed a lot in 15 years...
There is now a huge supply of expensive housing that is out of reach for recent college grads.
Thats exactly the point...there are more PSU fans Hoboken...I didn't say alumni.
As mentioned there are more casual PSU fans then casual RU fans. Until we can actually beat them on the field this trend will continue.
A lot of the kids that go outside of NJ to schools without football will root for the front runners and historical teams. Kids that go to NJ schools not named Rutgers don't always have an allegiance to their state school and will root for more traditional teams. Hoboken residents that grew up and went to college outside of NJ but have jobs in NYC have no allegiance to Rutgers.
We have the foundation in place but are still developing out casual fan base. We are not in the same category as casual fans from PA, OH, MI, and many of the other B10 states, SEC states, and B12 states.
A lot of the kids that go outside of NJ to schools without football will root for the front runners and historical teams. Kids that go to NJ schools not named Rutgers don't always have an allegiance to their state school and will root for more traditional teams. Hoboken residents that grew up and went to college outside of NJ but have jobs in NYC have no allegiance to Rutgers.
We have the foundation in place but are still developing out casual fan base. We are not in the same category as casual fans from PA, OH, MI, and many of the other B10 states, SEC states, and B12 states.
my daughter who is not even a RU student was there a few weeks ago. sent me pictures of ttfp, nd osu and florida flag. . she was appalled. actually asked the bartender who shrugged her shoulders and said "I just work here" Another bartender said : "there used to be a RU flag but I don't know what happened to it".
Perhaps the business owner should cater his bar to a couple dozen rutgers fans, rather than thousands of PSU fans. That would be great for his bottom line and for his restaurant to survive and thrive.
Lol...you're wrong. Apparently all the RU
You're being douchy, but your point is valid. Businesses want to make money. RU doesn't have many rabid fans. It used to be worse. I lived in hoboken from 03-06. I remember being in a bar in '03 and having to ask the bar tender if he could put the Army-RU game on the small TV in the corner of the bar for me. Now we at least have designated bars that get packed for games.
To the Penn State fans, please stop wasting my time trying to troll.
To the Rutgers fans, if you don't want it to be a Penn State bar, give it more business than they do. If not, there are other bars in the area that are Rutgers bars, so who cares?
To the Rutgers fans, if you don't want it to be a Penn State bar, give it more business than they do. If not, there are other bars in the area that are Rutgers bars, so who cares?
not really interested in getting arrested or walking through town with a large PSU banner.
There are definitely more RU grads in Hoboken. The difference is, the average psu grad is more likely to be a football fan than a Rutgers grad. A lot of it has to do with the demographics. Rutgers is much more diverse. PSU grads are predominantly white middle class.
What in the world does that hVe to do with being a football fan?
THE SAME OWNERS OWN THE RU BAR
Which is Cadillac Cantina next door so by avoiding TX AZ you are spiting RU too.
Cadillac Cantina is the much classier bar.
There is also a huge RU flag outside of Maxwell's, so we have 2 to their 1.
There are way more RU alumni and people from NJ in Hoboken. There is an unfortunate PA contingent, you'll notice the stupidity and ugliness but they are a minority and eventually go back there thankfully as they cannot afford it here.
Which is Cadillac Cantina next door so by avoiding TX AZ you are spiting RU too.
Cadillac Cantina is the much classier bar.
There is also a huge RU flag outside of Maxwell's, so we have 2 to their 1.
There are way more RU alumni and people from NJ in Hoboken. There is an unfortunate PA contingent, you'll notice the stupidity and ugliness but they are a minority and eventually go back there thankfully as they cannot afford it here.
Seriously, who cares? If that establishment has developed a loyal following of PSU fans for game days, so be it. Local RU fans should find another Hoboken watering hole for game days and make it their home. That said, when the Knights hand the Nits a loss this season, that may warrant a Scarlet " takeover" of said Texas Arizona Bar the following Saturday. Flash mob it, Jersey style.
Three things
1.) more PSU fans than ru fans in Hoboken? Lmao
2.) there are bars for different schools all over manhattan. This one happens to be in Hoboken and it's penn state...
3.) i expect a large rowdy group of Rutgers fans to enter the bar a little
Before midnight after our victory on sept 19th and take it over and drown it with ru chants and gear and social media photos ....
1.) more PSU fans than ru fans in Hoboken? Lmao
2.) there are bars for different schools all over manhattan. This one happens to be in Hoboken and it's penn state...
3.) i expect a large rowdy group of Rutgers fans to enter the bar a little
Before midnight after our victory on sept 19th and take it over and drown it with ru chants and gear and social media photos ....
I'm ashamed of our underclassmen. If that happened while I was at RU, that flag would've been in the Hudson within a week's time.
There is no way there are more PSU fans in Hoboken, then there are RU fans. If you think so, you are wrong.
Allow me to educate you. Here is a New York Times study of college football allegiance by zip code:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html#10,40.899,-73.881
Hoboken's zip code is 07030. The breakdown for the zipcode in their study is 12% PSU, 10% RU, 6% ND. So yes, according to the most reliable data set we have on the matter, there are more PSU fans in Hoboken than Rutgers fans.
Looking at New Jersey as a whole, PSU owns the state with the exception of the area directly surrounding Rutgers. As much as this message board echo chambers likes to pretend there is widespread support for the university in every corner of the state - it is just simple false.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html#10,40.899,-73.881
Hoboken's zip code is 07030. The breakdown for the zipcode in their study is 12% PSU, 10% RU, 6% ND. So yes, according to the most reliable data set we have on the matter, there are more PSU fans in Hoboken than Rutgers fans.
Looking at New Jersey as a whole, PSU owns the state with the exception of the area directly surrounding Rutgers. As much as this message board echo chambers likes to pretend there is widespread support for the university in every corner of the state - it is just simple false.
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