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Will Barnwell get to play if he becomes eligible?

He has been practicing all summer. If by some miracle he becomes eligible to play games, he will be in the rotation. He may be immature, but he is a very good DB.
 
I think the fact the Flood emailed the professor is an indicator of what to expect come eligibility wise. When I heard the story on Tuesday I was the least bit nervous about Flood. I was more upset that this probably meant Nadir is ineligible. Summer classes are easy. As a recent grad, you should be able to find an easy B+/A type class. Even if you're not the greatest student, it's not that hard.
 
biazza38 said:
I think the fact the Flood emailed the professor is an indicator of what to expect come eligibility wise. When I heard the story on Tuesday I was the least bit nervous about Flood. I was more upset that this probably meant Nadir is ineligible. Summer classes are easy. As a recent grad, you should be able to find an easy B+/A type class. Even if you're not the greatest student, it's not that hard.
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generality - yes, you should
...however sometimes you get hit by Murphy's law - and then - aw nuts, you get the one summer prof who thinks this is the elimination round for Rhodes Scholarships.

Huge unknown - it is a total mystery as to what kind of grade was needed to get Barnwell's proverbial bacon out of the fire
- was it just credits? - did he just need passing grade credits? (or did he also need higher grades to boost GPA too)
- did he need to get an A ? - to pull up a sub-par GPA?
- what did he get? ... and thus how much did he need to "improve his grade" to get himself across the "Mendoza Line"?
- was he working his butt off to get what he needed? or was he just sort of gagging the subject matter down and just dragging his butt through the course?
To all of this we just - don't know don't know don't know don't know
 
LevaosLectures said:
You really want to get smacked down again? Glutton for punishment, you are.
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As much as I'm sure you'd like to exercise your weird homo-erotic fantasies, that's not my thing and in all other aspects of confrontation you're woefully out of your league. So why don't you just go grade some papers or write some emails to your union rep or whatever it is that you do.
 
RU4Real said:
As much as I'm sure you'd like to exercise your weird homo-erotic fantasies, that's not my thing and in all other aspects of confrontation you're woefully out of your league. So why don't you just go grade some papers or write some emails to your union rep or whatever it is that you do.
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Actually, it's still summer. I think I'll pour another cocktail to celebrate the end of a wonderful week in Maine with my family and laugh about the pathetic old man whose repertoire consists entirely of "I make so much $$$$$$ derp."

Clown.
 
LevaosLectures said:
Actually, it's still summer. I think I'll pour another cocktail to celebrate the end of a wonderful week in Maine with my family and laugh about the pathetic old man whose repertoire consists entirely of "I make so much $$$$$$ derp."

Clown.
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You really need to stop being jealous, it's not becoming.

As far as Barnwell is concerned, you're missing a key point.

If he's academically ineligible he loses his scholarship. So not only can he not play (until such time as a successful petition for eligibility restoration is made to the NCAA), he would also have to pay his own way to stay in school.

This is why players who become academically ineligible at any given institution almost never play for that school again.

Additionally, regaining eligibility after becoming ineligible is a very hard road. Barnwell is a third year student. That means that to be eligible to play in his Junior year he must have completed 40% of the courses required for graduation and must have a GPA of at least 95% of the minimum required for graduation.

Assuming he pays his own way and sits this year, then in order to be eligible next year he would have to have completed 60% of the courses required for graduation and have a GPA of 100% of the required minimum for graduation.

So if he's shy of the mark this year the chances of him hitting the mark next year are basically slim and none.

If Nadir Barnwell is academically ineligible right now, as we sit here, you will never see him in a Rutgers uniform, again.

Bring me back some lobster, please.
 
RU4Real said:
You really need to stop being jealous, it's not becoming.

As far as Barnwell is concerned, you're missing a key point.

If he's academically ineligible he loses his scholarship. So not only can he not play (until such time as a successful petition for eligibility restoration is made to the NCAA), he would also have to pay his own way to stay in school.

This is why players who become academically ineligible at any given institution almost never play for that school again.

Additionally, regaining eligibility after becoming ineligible is a very hard road. Barnwell is a third year student. That means that to be eligible to play in his Junior year he must have completed 40% of the courses required for graduation and must have a GPA of at least 95% of the minimum required for graduation.

Assuming he pays his own way and sits this year, then in order to be eligible next year he would have to have completed 60% of the courses required for graduation and have a GPA of 100% of the required minimum for graduation.

So if he's shy of the mark this year the chances of him hitting the mark next year are basically slim and none.

If Nadir Barnwell is academically ineligible right now, as we sit here, you will never see him in a Rutgers uniform, again.

Bring me back some lobster, please.
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thanks for the thoughtfl summary
 
RU4Real said:
You really need to stop being jealous, it's not becoming.

As far as Barnwell is concerned, you're missing a key point.

If he's academically ineligible he loses his scholarship. So not only can he not play (until such time as a successful petition for eligibility restoration is made to the NCAA), he would also have to pay his own way to stay in school.

This is why players who become academically ineligible at any given institution almost never play for that school again.

Additionally, regaining eligibility after becoming ineligible is a very hard road. Barnwell is a third year student. That means that to be eligible to play in his Junior year he must have completed 40% of the courses required for graduation and must have a GPA of at least 95% of the minimum required for graduation.

Assuming he pays his own way and sits this year, then in order to be eligible next year he would have to have completed 60% of the courses required for graduation and have a GPA of 100% of the required minimum for graduation.

So if he's shy of the mark this year the chances of him hitting the mark next year are basically slim and none.

If Nadir Barnwell is academically ineligible right now, as we sit here, you will never see him in a Rutgers uniform, again.

Bring me back some lobster, please.
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Dude, LL knows everything. He's an ACADEMIC. [roll]
 
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RU4Real said:
You really need to stop being jealous, it's not becoming.

As far as Barnwell is concerned, you're missing a key point.

If he's academically ineligible he loses his scholarship. So not only can he not play (until such time as a successful petition for eligibility restoration is made to the NCAA), he would also have to pay his own way to stay in school.

This is why players who become academically ineligible at any given institution almost never play for that school again.

Additionally, regaining eligibility after becoming ineligible is a very hard road. Barnwell is a third year student. That means that to be eligible to play in his Junior year he must have completed 40% of the courses required for graduation and must have a GPA of at least 95% of the minimum required for graduation.

Assuming he pays his own way and sits this year, then in order to be eligible next year he would have to have completed 60% of the courses required for graduation and have a GPA of 100% of the required minimum for graduation.

So if he's shy of the mark this year the chances of him hitting the mark next year are basically slim and none.

If Nadir Barnwell is academically ineligible right now, as we sit here, you will never see him in a Rutgers uniform, again.

Bring me back some lobster, please.
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The coast is for people who don't actually want to go to Maine. No lobster here in Franklin County.

You're wrong. Barnwell will not lose his scholarship. So, maybe you should revise your sense of certainty...about this and many other things.

As for you RUScrew85, you are beneath even my contempt. Enjoy being a dumba$$ forever and don't forget to vote Trump.
 
Show your work.

Maintaining Eligibility
After being recruited to play college sports this is where athletes will hear the terms “continuing eligibility” and “progress toward degree” which means that student-athletes need to stay on track in order to maintain progress toward a baccalaureate or equivalent degree to stay eligible to at the NCAA level.

Student athletes at the NCAA division I and division II level are required to complete a certain percentage of their degree each year they are enrolled in college. If requirements are not met the student-athlete will be in violation of NCAA Scholarship Rules and could be in jeopardy of losing their athletic scholarship.
 
No matter how many times you and RUHudson say "show your work" it will never, ever be clever. Ever. I mean, it may garner titters in the mouth breather high-five-a-thon circle jerk that is the CE board, but over here amongst the people with brains it just makes you look like a doofus. I'd stop using it. 4Real.

Hey, try reading what you posted and tell me again it's some kind of trump card. Go ahead. Read ALL the words. You can do it.

In any case, trust me. I know what I'm talking about. Barnwell will stay on scholarship. As for the rest, you have a point that there is work to do, but considering that loss of scholarship would represent the single biggest obstacle to his success, I'd reiterate that you should rethink your position.
 
LevaosLectures said:
No matter how many times you and RUHudson say "show your work" it will never, ever be clever. Ever. I mean, it may garner titters in the mouth breather high-five-a-thon circle jerk that is the CE board, but over here amongst the people with brains it just makes you look like a doofus. I'd stop using it. 4Real.

Hey, try reading what you posted and tell me again it's some kind of trump card. Go ahead. Read ALL the words. You can do it.

In any case, trust me. I know what I'm talking about. Barnwell will stay on scholarship. As for the rest, you have a point that there is work to do, but considering that loss of scholarship would represent the single biggest obstacle to his success, I'd reiterate that you should rethink your position.
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Why would a team - any team - renew a scholarship for a player who isn't on the team? Scholarships are precious commodities at this level. They're currency. Injuries notwithstanding, athletic scholarships are for one thing and one thing only - athletics. They are absolutely conditional on, among other things, maintaining eligibility. If Barnwell can't remain eligible then there is no obligation to keep him on scholarship. Your assertion that "loss of scholarship would represent the biggest obstacle to his success", while true, is meaningless. His "success" at Rutgers is 100% contingent upon his being able to play football for Rutgers.

And all that is generalization with regard to "Player X". With regard to Nadir Barnwell, specifically, he's not even close to being eligible. He flunked a friggin' Theatre Appreciation class, for God's sake. He was given every chance to get himself squared away and couldn't even be bothered with showing up.

If the math doesn't work in his favor come 1st day of the Fall Semester, he's gone. Done. Period.
 
LevaosLectures said:
No matter how many times you and RUHudson say "show your work" it will never, ever be clever.
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Oh, and incidentally - that right there? That's a banning offense. @ruhudsonfan has, to this point, not participated in this thread. You calling him out in this thread is a verbatim violation of board rules.
 
LevaosLectures said:
The coast is for people who don't actually want to go to Maine. No lobster here in Franklin County.

You're wrong. Barnwell will not lose his scholarship. So, maybe you should revise your sense of certainty...about this and many other things.

As for you RUScrew85, you are beneath even my contempt. Enjoy being a dumba$$ forever and don't forget to vote Trump.
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LOL. Do and Teach. You teach, remember that perfesser.

You're a Sanders guy aren't you? Or Warren? You'll settle for Hillary! though won't you?
 
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LevaosLectures said:
No matter how many times you and RUHudson say "show your work" it will never, ever be clever. Ever. I mean, it may garner titters in the mouth breather high-five-a-thon circle jerk that is the CE board, but over here amongst the people with brains it just makes you look like a doofus. I'd stop using it. 4Real.

Hey, try reading what you posted and tell me again it's some kind of trump card. Go ahead. Read ALL the words. You can do it.

In any case, trust me. I know what I'm talking about. Barnwell will stay on scholarship. As for the rest, you have a point that there is work to do, but considering that loss of scholarship would represent the single biggest obstacle to his success, I'd reiterate that you should rethink your position.
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He's gone braniac. Finished. When you cant pass a Mason Gross class, you dont have much hope to suit up again.
 
RU4Real said:
Why would a team - any team - renew a scholarship for a player who isn't on the team? Scholarships are precious commodities at this level. They're currency. Injuries notwithstanding, athletic scholarships are for one thing and one thing only - athletics. They are absolutely conditional on, among other things, maintaining eligibility. If Barnwell can't remain eligible then there is no obligation to keep him on scholarship. Your assertion that "loss of scholarship would represent the biggest obstacle to his success", while true, is meaningless. His "success" at Rutgers is 100% contingent upon his being able to play football for Rutgers.

And all that is generalization with regard to "Player X". With regard to Nadir Barnwell, specifically, he's not even close to being eligible. He flunked a friggin' Theatre Appreciation class, for God's sake. He was given every chance to get himself squared away and couldn't even be bothered with showing up.

If the math doesn't work in his favor come 1st day of the Fall Semester, he's gone. Done. Period.
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Now you're just bloviating. You have no clue what MGSA class he took. You have no idea if he flunked it. Maybe he needed an A and got a B+. Who knows?

As to why they would keep him on scholarship, well, he is one of the most talented players on the team! Are you telling me a redshirt year schollie for Nadir freaking Barnwell, a proven commodity, is not worth it as opposed to...what, exactly? A completely unknown and unproven freshman? If he still isn't eligible after this year then maybe talk about cutting him.

Honestly, just put me on ignore already, because knocking your dIck in the dirt again and again is getting old.

By the way, I am fairly certain telling another poster to "die in a fire" is also contrary to board code of conduct. I don't GAF but cram your self-righteous garbage.

Are we done now?
 
I can see why the pencil neck doesn't have any friends.

Too bad I missed Hud's response, though. I sure do enjoy a good killin'.
 
Not ready to admit I was right?

Remember Diallo and Johnson?

"Big man Ibrahima Diallo and wing Ryan Johnson remain on scholarship and can practice with the team throughout 2014-15. They will have four years of eligibility starting in 2015-16."

So tell me again that Barnwell is a lock never to play for RU again, or admit you don't know what you're talking about and that I'm right.

And pencil neck? Really? Are you pretending to be a tough guy again? How Junior High.
 
LevaosLectures said:
Not ready to admit I was right?

Remember Diallo and Johnson?

"Big man Ibrahima Diallo and wing Ryan Johnson remain on scholarship and can practice with the team throughout 2014-15. They will have four years of eligibility starting in 2015-16."

So tell me again that Barnwell is a lock never to play for RU again, or admit you don't know what you're talking about and that I'm right.

And pencil neck? Really? Are you pretending to be a tough guy again? How Junior High.
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Neither has played a game here. They were partial academic qualifiers. They didn't lose their eligibility between seasons. Apples and oranges.
 
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RUMBA-JK said:
generality - yes, you should
...however sometimes you get hit by Murphy's law - and then - aw nuts, you get the one summer prof who thinks this is the elimination round for Rhodes Scholarships.

Huge unknown - it is a total mystery as to what kind of grade was needed to get Barnwell's proverbial bacon out of the fire
- was it just credits? - did he just need passing grade credits? (or did he also need higher grades to boost GPA too)
- did he need to get an A ? - to pull up a sub-par GPA?
- what did he get? ... and thus how much did he need to "improve his grade" to get himself across the "Mendoza Line"?
- was he working his butt off to get what he needed? or was he just sort of gagging the subject matter down and just dragging his butt through the course?
To all of this we just - don't know don't know don't know don't know
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thus the coach's inquiry.
 
ruhudsonfan said:
Neither has played a game here. They were partial academic qualifiers. They didn't lose their eligibility between seasons. Apples and oranges.

And in case you missed my post last night, don't bring my name up unproved again.
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One can be ineligible and keep ones scholarship is the main point.

RU4Real is wrong on that score, as he is wrong about almost everything always. It also seems he went back and edited his "die in a fire" post....so at least he has some sense of irony.
 
LevaosLectures said:
One can be ineligible and keep ones scholarship is the main point.
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If that is your main point, you're using a poor example to support it. The mechanism for partial qualifiers is different than a sophomore being ruled ineligible as a junior.

Eddie Jordan's basketball program is in a much different place than the football program. EJ doesn't have a choice, as it appears those two kids can play, and he needs B10 quality bodies.

Since Prop 48 was done away with, the only mechanism to take partial qualifiers is to let them redshirt and get their grades in order. They count against your scholarship limit. It's a trade-off that basketball programs make.

This is a totally different situation. Presumably, Barnwell is not sufficiently progressing towards the degree.

I have no opinion if he'll remain in school or not. But I've heard enough of the story surrounding his case that I would be shocked if he remained on scholarship.
 
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