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Wisky-RU game thread

in fairness. Wisky shot equally as poor at the line 18-28 to RU 13-20 about the same percentage..although they seemed to make them when it counted.
 
Poorly coached at the end. Have to run the clock on those possessions. We gave them quick2 TOs.

Agree with this. Same needs to dunk that ball or pull it back out. Not sure why he is in the game under 2 minutes. Defense I presume but a libaility on the line.
 
Sa missing 2 and Freeman hitting 1 of 2 after that were more important. Nigel played a great game today with 13/7/3 and something like 7-9 from the line.
NIgel was 3 for 12. Only at Rutgers can that qualify as a great game. Only missed 1 of 7 at the line but it was a killer. Feel bad for Gettys, just completely overwhelmed -- 5 TOS and just can't guard a B1G big. Would feel better about today if the frosh showed anything and the staff had recruited a couple shooters for next year.
 
I don't want to beat the all too familiar moral victory drum that comes with Rutgers sports but progress especially this season isn't measured with Wins/Losses. Its perception and the product on the court where RU has clearly on the huge upswing.
 
I don't want to beat the all too familiar moral victory drum that comes with Rutgers sports but progress especially this season isn't measured with Wins/Losses. Its perception and the product on the court where RU has clearly on the huge upswing.


Casual fan doesn't know that. All they see is a loss. These are the new fans that Rutgers is trying to lure into the fan base.
 
I lol'd

Was there any doubt after giving away such a big lead in the last couple of minutes?

Momentum, heart, and foul shooting are huge in OT. RU has none.
I actually thought RU would hold the 7 point lead ... Once in OT knew the team was done.
 
I don't want to beat the all too familiar moral victory drum that comes with Rutgers sports but progress especially this season isn't measured with Wins/Losses. Its perception and the product on the court where RU has clearly on the huge upswing.


yes...I am not labelling this a moral victory because you have to win when you find yourself in position to win because you dont know how the next game will play out. Its about setting the foundation that the program isnt a joke
 
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Casual fan doesn't know that. All they see is a loss. These are the new fans that Rutgers is trying to lure into the fan base.

Ok well casual fans would say Rutgers hoops is terrible. They at least catch a glimpse of the game and they are surprised in general. Casual fans will come once the foundation is set. Its one of the next steps of the process. I think the goal this year was to be more competitive night in and night out. Grab maybe 3-4 conference wins and call it a day. I would say Rutgers is well on its way to step 1 of the moving through the rebuild.
 
I LOVED the effort. I loved the fact that we are not embarrassing ourselves (except at the line of course)....but in the end...Winners know how to win and losers find a way to lose.

I trust that Pike will fix this over time. Could have broken the TV set today but we are showing the league that RU basketball is well on its way back and we cannot be taken for granted anymore. For that I am thankful.

Maryland coach said something like 'Rutgers has a basketball team again (or this year)"
 
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Disappointing. Would have been great to pick up this win. Definitely there for the taking. Free throw shooting a killer. The team plays with tremendous effort and well coached. Learning process involved to close out these games.
 
Coaching lost us the game. Wisc. Poor shooting kept us in it but Pike needs to step up. It's a learning curve for the staff and the players.
 
strongly agree, hoops is a game of momentum, RU isnt good enough to recover from that Wisky run to send into overtime

Yes and Nigel was actually pretty close to knocking that down at the buzzer. That would have been something . It just felt like a loss that you knew was coming at that point.
 
The most disheartening thing is the posts about team not having heart. Utterly ridiculous.
 
Except for winning the game, you can't ask for a better effort as a 16 underdog. Too bad we couldn't pull it off, but we just don't have the players. Wisconsin had a horrible shooting game, but that's what it takes for us to beat a better team.
Too many mental errors to overcome and another really bad 2nd half start or we maybe win by 10. Without better players it's tough because we do too many little things wrong. That's what happens to mediocre teams. Keep plugging away RU.
 
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Casual fan doesn't know that. All they see is a loss. These are the new fans that Rutgers is trying to lure into the fan base.

More important is that recruits and those who influence them see the progress and quality coaching. They are the missing piece to this puzzle. They're who we need to lure. The casual fans will follow.
 
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In second with a 9 point lead. Have to play better than that. Team played with heart. I'm disappointed Omoruyi didn't get many minutes in last 2 of regulation he had been hustling on defense
 
Kids played hard again but Bill Parcells was right -- "you are what your records says you are". 1-8 is 1-8. Spin it all you want. Improvements or not, the perception and student support won't change because of close games or moral victories. Pikiell needs shooters and he needs Ws.
 
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Once again if Rutgers had a pulse on offense they would have won this game by double digits.Wisconsin couldn't make a 3 pointer which gave Rutgers many opportunities to take and maintain the lead.Sadly, Rutgers went 6 minutes in the first half and 9 minutes in the second half without making a basket.Rutgers scored 51 points in 45 minutes which won't win you many games.

This game had so much meaning for the program.A win would have shown that the team found a way to win against a top league opponent even when they couldn't score.The loss just showed that defense can keep you in games but ultimately the team will lose because the opponent will have more offensive options.Wisconsin kept shooting 3 point bricks but they kept getting offensive rebounds which along with Happ was the difference in the game.

This team has no margin for error because it can't score.Most teams don't shoot as badly as Wisconsin which means that Rutgers needed to find a way to win this game.League games are a nightmare for Rutgers because they are having great difficulty even scoring 60 points a game.Pikiell is doing everything possible to squeeze out points by substituting players to keep them fresh.The problem isn't lack of rest,however, but rather lack of talent .Where are the points going to come from to win games?
 
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team plays hard, team plays defense, team can't shoot

Coach P has them playing better than I've seen in years
 
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Coaching lost us the game. Wisc. Poor shooting kept us in it but Pike needs to step up. It's a learning curve for the staff and the players.


please stop it, major credit to Pike and staff for the defense shutting down Wisky pretty much all game long. Its the best defense in years Ive seen and they rebound too...the previous staff did neither. RU does not have the talent to shoot the ball, Pike isnt going to fix that, it is what it is, he has improved all the little things about effort, rebounding and defense. Coaching did not lose us this game, talent won it for Wisconsin
 
?What WTF does more effort mean? I can't imagine our players
having to read that, we were tied at the end of regulation, with
the nbr 15th team. Lack of effort was not the problem, shooting, skills,
and lack of free throw skills were, not from lack of effort, again, WTF
are we talking about here?
 
please stop it, major credit to Pike and staff for the defense shutting down Wisky pretty much all game long. Its the best defense in years Ive seen and they rebound too...the previous staff did neither. RU does not have the talent to shoot the ball, Pike isnt going to fix that, it is what it is, he has improved all the little things about effort, rebounding and defense. Coaching did not lose us this game, talent won it for Wisconsin
The D was good and it was helped out by lousy shooting by Wisc. Basketball coaching is about key possessions. That's the part Pike needs to work on. Generally, he has the team playing hard. But in key moments he is not coming through. Have to run clock at the end. Sa and Freeman shooting with 20+ secs left was stupid. There was also a shot clock violation out of a stoppage. I can understand the players losing track of the clock but it was on our side of the court and the coach was 10ft away.
 
Yes, teams do shoot as badly as Wisky did today. We do that to teams most of every game.
It's a learning curve. We don't know how to win yet, but we're getting closer. It's the mental aspect now. Going to the line and feeling confident in the FTs. Obviously don't feel that way yet. But we will. And once we get over the hump, it'll snowball.

I don't know how to get that FT shooting confidence up. Any coaches here know?
 
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The D was good and it was helped out by lousy shooting by Wisc. Basketball coaching is about key possessions. That's the part Pike needs to work on. Generally, he has the team playing hard. But in key moments he is not coming through. Have to run clock at the end. Sa and Freeman shooting with 20+ secs left was stupid. There was also a shot clock violation out of a stoppage. I can understand the players losing track of the clock but it was on our side of the court and the coach was 10ft away.
You make good points, but you're wrong about coaching lost us the game today. No, TO's, bad FT shooting and someone like SA who rather than dunking the effin' ball, decides he has plenty of time there to finesse a layup. Dunk the freakin' ball!!! That's why we lost the game.

It's BECAUSE of Pikiell that we were in this game and should have won this game. It was NOT because of poor endgame coaching. CJ should have known to foul Happ at the end of regulation and make them earn the tie from the charity stripe. I bet you anything, CJ had a brain fart there, because he knew he had 4 fouls. And instead of just fouling him and force him to shoot FT's, who cares if he fouled out if it meant Happ misses one and we win the game. That was a split second decision by CJ not to foul. That's not on the Coach.

I was as pissed as anyone that we lost. But now hours later I have gained perspective and even though I'm still angry we lost this game, I'm really proud of the way we fought and clawed against a team with much better talent than ours. We are in good hands with Pikiell.
 
All the credit goes to Pike getting us in position to win. But up 5 with 2 min to play, we did everything wrong. At the end of OT, did you see Happ handling the ball? No, Wisc got the ball to someone who can handle the ball and shoot FTs.
 
yes...I am not labelling this a moral victory because you have to win when you find yourself in position to win because you dont know how the next game will play out. Its about setting the foundation that the program isnt a joke
This was a game against a top tier B1G opponent that was held to 45 points in regulation time.Any team with a pulse on offense would find a way to win such a game because so little scoring was required.The fact Rutgers lost such a game today just shows how hard it will be to win any remaining game because the opponent probably has more talented players that can actually put the ball in the basket .A game that got away and will be remembered for a long time.
 
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Score wise and defense, we did play a good game and put ourselves in a great position to win. Wisconsin did their part by shooting horrible, but were able to hang with us because we weren't any better. There is no excuse for scoring 4 points in 9 minutes no matter how bad of a shooting team and then we're still in the game. If someone had shown us the Wisconsin shooting percentage overall and on 3's before the game, I would have given us at least a 80% chance of winning no matter how we played.
When there is a talent gap, it's not as much of a learning curve to understand why we can't get over the hump. We just don't control the mistakes that might allow us to win despite our poor shooting. In this game it could have been the difference.
We're playing better, but are we learning from our mistakes. Hard to tell except in the loss column.
 
There are a thousand and one decisions a coach has to make in the coure of the game. Nobody's gona be right a thousand and one times. Agree with poster who wrote that Pike's the reason we were in teh game.
 
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The D was good and it was helped out by lousy shooting by Wisc. Basketball coaching is about key possessions. That's the part Pike needs to work on. Generally, he has the team playing hard. But in key moments he is not coming through. Have to run clock at the end. Sa and Freeman shooting with 20+ secs left was stupid. There was also a shot clock violation out of a stoppage. I can understand the players losing track of the clock but it was on our side of the court and the coach was 10ft away.
Nothing wrong with the coaching on that shot clock violation. It was in the first half and we were shooting at the basket in front of the Wisconsin bench. I was sitting right behind the scorers table. Coach Pikiell did walk down as far as the official let him get and yelled "2 seconds" to Mike while holding up 2 fingers. He also gave them the play to run.
 
How can you say that when we went up by 9 after that?
Rutgers lost the game because they only scored 45 points in regulation..Every missed opportunity matters for a team that lacks scorers as seen in the last 3 minutes of the game where the lead evaporated.
 
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Rutgers lost the game because they only scored 45 points in regulation..Every missed opportunity matters for a team that lacks scorers as seen in the last 3 minutes of the game where the lead evaporated.
I agree. Can't afford to have TOs that aren't from being aggressive with the ball and we have a lot of them. It's just not smart BB and shouldnt happen when we cause it.
 
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