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NewJerseyHawk said:
There's no rule that says you have to spend all of your money in the portal.....its not a good equation that works.....some of that money is better spent, on 2026 HS recruits, that are more likely to stick for more than 1 year and cost a fraction of the portal price tags.

If there's 5M available, I'm not spending more than 2.5M on the portal and saving money for 2025 kids who will perform this year and 2026 freshman that we need to land this spring and summer.

RU has to get out of the portal business each spring, trying to fill 3 starting positions every year. That only happens if you recruit and retain the players via HS recruiting.
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No - I don’t think you can do that. The allocation (salary cap) is for active players in the coming year. Isn’t it?
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NewJerseyHawk said:
They quoted a rumor from Jeff Goodman that top portal targets are asking for 2
5 to 3M.....how does anyone actually believe that and what schools are paying 2.5M for 1 player?? Again, the rumors get quoted and it's impossible to get out of fans heads, that it's not reality.

Otherwise, don't quote a random rumor and how do you quote a random George Washington fan based on what they said about Darren Buchanan on Trillys site, as some sort of scoutinf report??

And there's some sort of belief that if a player takes a 2 point shot, that it's a bad shot and jacking up all 3s is good basketball.....there's no logic on evaluation of basketball, as if the Sweet 16 programs in this years tournament don't take mid range 2 point shots......St Johns built their entire program this past year on mid range players.....whether that was a good decision or not, is debatable, but the levels of apathy on Pike and revelation that Schiano can do no wrong and has millions of dollars and only managed 2 Power 4 transfers so far, is at best illogical.

I get it, fans are disappointed, but I think we can all agree that Acuff, Derkack, Martini and Hayes probably didn't cost more than 1M in total between the 4 portal kids.

Could he have put more money into Malique Ewin and bypassed on Martini, Derkack and Hayes?? Probably, but if you're only armed with 1M bucks for the portal, that's certainly not all on Pike, we have to acknowledge as fans, our donor levels are absurdly low, vs the rest of the Power 4 programs. And the bulk of the funds needed to go to Dylan and Ace, this other notion that they only got money from other sources, is at flimsy.....(it's just not true).
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I agree the podcast was overly pessimistic. Especially about Buchanan, although it was discouraging to hear that GW fans say “he tries” on D. Was hoping for more of an endorsement than that on that end. The market at the very top is likely in that $2M range, but those are mostly guys we wouldn’t have historically been in the running for anyway. We should be able to get 2 guys in the $1Ms who are very good players. And with a little luck, have money left to take a chance on another Buchanan type and then we’d be in ok shape.
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Transfer Portal Targets

NewJerseyHawk
bitnez said:
Let’s assume you are correct and the money being discussed is over-estimated. That scenario is actually worse for us. It means we can compete monetarily and kids simply don’t want to play for Pike.
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There's no rule that says you have to spend all of your money in the portal.....its not a good equation that works.....some of that money is better spent, on 2026 HS recruits, that are more likely to stick for more than 1 year and cost a fraction of the portal price tags.

If there's 5M available, I'm not spending more than 2.5M on the portal and saving money for 2025 kids who will perform this year and 2026 freshman that we need to land this spring and summer.

RU has to get out of the portal business each spring, trying to fill 3 starting positions every year. That only happens if you recruit and retain the players via HS recruiting.
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bitnez said:
Let’s assume you are correct and the money being discussed is over-estimated. That scenario is actually worse for us. It means we can compete monetarily and kids simply don’t want to play for Pike.
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There’s a third possibility. Maybe Pike’s strategy is to only window dress in the elite market right now to get a better feel for what it’s going to take and how high to bid. He might think that it’s better to first secure his remaining guys and a couple role players so that when he goes after the pair of high rollers, he knows what strengths he must go after that he wont be able to compensate for elsewhere.

The good news for us about what we’re targeting now, we won’t have any stars who have egos that need to be managed - nobody is going to be offended by the 7 figure offers we might throw out to buy a few established starters. If we have 10 role player types locked in with $3M to work with, we can then play ball and go after 2 guys that fit the best and then a possible 3rd with whatever is leftover. How do we know that isn’t the plan?
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PSAL_Hoops said:
What don’t you find accurate? No $$$s were discussed on the podcast at all. Richie simply sounded pessimistic based on who was on our visitor list. There was no mention of price tag except regarding a wing we're not going after because he’s asking 7 figures.
On a previous podcast Richie mentioned that Lathan asked for 7 figures. Other than that, no $$ was thrown out. We really don’t have a baseline from Richie at all. The only numbers being thrown out otherwise are from posters without accountablity due to the anonymity of the site. Have to be take. With a grain of salt.
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They quoted a rumor from Jeff Goodman that top portal targets are asking for 2
5 to 3M.....how does anyone actually believe that and what schools are paying 2.5M for 1 player?? Again, the rumors get quoted and it's impossible to get out of fans heads, that it's not reality.

Otherwise, don't quote a random rumor and how do you quote a random George Washington fan based on what they said about Darren Buchanan on Trillys site, as some sort of scoutinf report??

And there's some sort of belief that if a player takes a 2 point shot, that it's a bad shot and jacking up all 3s is good basketball.....there's no logic on evaluation of basketball, as if the Sweet 16 programs in this years tournament don't take mid range 2 point shots......St Johns built their entire program this past year on mid range players.....whether that was a good decision or not, is debatable, but the levels of apathy on Pike and revelation that Schiano can do no wrong and has millions of dollars and only managed 2 Power 4 transfers so far, is at best illogical.

I get it, fans are disappointed, but I think we can all agree that Acuff, Derkack, Martini and Hayes probably didn't cost more than 1M in total between the 4 portal kids.

Could he have put more money into Malique Ewin and bypassed on Martini, Derkack and Hayes?? Probably, but if you're only armed with 1M bucks for the portal, that's certainly not all on Pike, we have to acknowledge as fans, our donor levels are absurdly low, vs the rest of the Power 4 programs. And the bulk of the funds needed to go to Dylan and Ace, this other notion that they only got money from other sources, is at flimsy.....(it's just not true).
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NewJerseyHawk said:
I listened to the podcast, but I don't find much of it as accurate. NIL is a rumor mill with no way of knowing what anyone is making and the only true source would be an agent, who's # 1 goal is to lie about what a player got in NIL, because the higher the rumored amount is, benefits the agent 1st.

All i know are actual AAU circuit people and coaches, HS coaches, refs who call NCAA games and scouts who grind 11 months a year in hoops. And the only ones who want a GM, are the agents, so they can create even more chaos and market uncertainty for players who we all don't know, how hard they will work or play, once they get a few hundred thousand dollars in the next 12 months.

Are agents and these supposed GMs offering a refund for players who loaf and no show, because some GM or agent overpromised something that the coaching staffs didn't agree to??

Any reasonable AAU coach or parents aren't dealing with a GM when it comes to how a player is or isn't planning to be used or what the role is....they're going right to the lead assistant coaches who have the relationship with the family or player.

The media is trying to make something more complicated than reality.
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Let’s assume you are correct and the money being discussed is over-estimated. That scenario is actually worse for us. It means we can compete monetarily and kids simply don’t want to play for Pike.
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What is abundantly clear

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bitnez said:
What’s clear to some may not be clear to others so I’ll just leave that there. It is fact though that not a single notable high end portal player has been tied to RU as of yet. Sure, it could change and maybe Pike puts together a bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders for not getting real money in the portal. But, that’s unlikely when all our peers are loading up and we’re on the sidelines. And let’s not ignore that we don’t have a new HC and staff playing catch up because everyone jumped with a coaching change. We have an experienced long time HC (and staff) so our program is known. Even if we have $4-5 mil it appears no one wants it.
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That’s the big question. It can’t simultaneously be true that we can’t get good players because we have no money, but we also can’t seem to spend the money that we have (unless we’re planning to overpay for a bunch of bad / unproven guys like Francis just to use the allocation).

Something has to give.
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OT: New Music (Released January 2020 or Later)

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Knight Shift said:
Been trying to figure out what the song is about. Did he stop doing drugs and wants to do drugs again, or the opposite?
Dana, I don't get depressed anymore
Except possibly this December at the Delaware shore
Maybe missing numbers on the motel doors
The toy section at this drug store
Otherwise I’m pretty much cured
Been getting out of bed before noon now
Gonna find a new place pretty soon now
The whole thing's moving uptown
I'm sorry about the way that I scared you
I’m sorry that I wasn't in church since
Spent way too much time with people
Without any substance
I've dеcided I'm gonna push forward
I'm committed to making the changе
But you gotta remember
I never go out in the rain, and it's been raining all day

[Verse 2]
And my jacket got nicked from the coat check
The curtains can't keep out the gray
The umbrellas that you get at the drug store
Always blow the wrong way
Dana, I don't drink nearly as much
One or two nights of the week at the most
I know I used to be such a monster
The city’s still lousy with ghosts
I’m sorry about that fight in the taxi
Y'know, that probably just wasn’t my night
If you'd just agree to come see me
I could try to make it all right
I've decided I'm gonna back off now
Heard you turned that old boy into a husband
Now you’re out in the county
Hanging out with some people of substance
https://stubhub.prf.hn/click/camref:1100lqTK8/pubref:category/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/_C-259827


[Instrumental break]

[Verse 3]
Dana, I'm done with the breakdowns
But the winter's pretty weird at the shore
You never really told me what it was
You cut me off for, and I'm still not sure
So I've decided that I'd call and just check in
If I was good enough for you back then
You shouldn't be ashamed to bring me around
To your new friends
I've been asking around
For some sort of system to trust in
Maybe you could put me in touch
With some people of substance
Spent way too much time with people
Without any substance
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I haven't dug too deeply yet, but I know from reviews it's a concept album about self-mprovement and redemption. This song seems to be about surrounding yourself with better people.
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Transfer Portal Targets

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NewJerseyHawk said:
I listened to the podcast, but I don't find much of it as accurate. NIL is a rumor mill with no way of knowing what anyone is making and the only true source would be an agent, who's # 1 goal is to lie about what a player got in NIL, because the higher the rumored amount is, benefits the agent 1st.

All i know are actual AAU circuit people and coaches, HS coaches, refs who call NCAA games and scouts who grind 11 months a year in hoops. And the only ones who want a GM, are the agents, so they can create even more chaos and market uncertainty for players who we all don't know, how hard they will work or play, once they get a few hundred thousand dollars in the next 12 months.

Are agents and these supposed GMs offering a refund for players who loaf and no show, because some GM or agent overpromised something that the coaching staffs didn't agree to??

Any reasonable AAU coach or parents aren't dealing with a GM when it comes to how a player is or isn't planning to be used or what the role is....they're going right to the lead assistant coaches who have the relationship with the family or player.

The media is trying to make something more complicated than reality.
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What don’t you find accurate? No $$$s were discussed on the podcast at all. Richie simply sounded pessimistic based on who was on our visitor list. There was no mention of price tag except regarding a wing we're not going after because he’s asking 7 figures.
On a previous podcast Richie mentioned that Lathan asked for 7 figures. Other than that, no $$ was thrown out. We really don’t have a baseline from Richie at all. The only numbers being thrown out otherwise are from posters without accountablity due to the anonymity of the site. Have to be take. With a grain of salt.
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What is abundantly clear

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What’s clear to some may not be clear to others so I’ll just leave that there. It is fact though that not a single notable high end portal player has been tied to RU as of yet. Sure, it could change and maybe Pike puts together a bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders for not getting real money in the portal. But, that’s unlikely when all our peers are loading up and we’re on the sidelines. And let’s not ignore that we don’t have a new HC and staff playing catch up because everyone jumped with a coaching change. We have an experienced long time HC (and staff) so our program is known. Even if we have $4-5 mil it appears no one wants it.
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