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This team stinks

I have been reading a lot of excuses here. Time to stop.
It is time to wave the white flag. It is late January and we are now pinning our hopes on making the BTT and going on a historic run to make this season palatable…making the BTT , let that sink in.
Time to face reality. The Harper/Bailey led team is a bust of epic proportions. Jordan Dercack , of Merrmimack and Colonia lore, was Rutgers best player on the court at MSG in a marquee game.
This team stinks!
What a stupid post right after we lose to undefeated in the BIG 10 when AcE has a subpar shooting night and Dylan is hurt . We have transfers and returnees that have failed the team but the freshman have shown out and are all starting to show out.

We're 3-1 in the B1G with a healthy Harper (and 2-0 with a healthy Harper and Grant playing). Just sayin'.

Ankle sprains are different. J. Broome of Auburn rolled his bad a few games ago and had to be carried off the court. He missed 2 full games and returned yesterday after I believe 10 days and played decently. So thinking no Dylan until February 5 which is like 10 -11 days is about right.
But will that happen goru, is the question.
Would it surprise you if you get an update Dylan is practicing and going to give it a go Wednesday?
Wash, rinse repeat!

Pikell Just Sucks

It's worth noting that a consensus top coach in the country over the last couple of decades cant say enough about Pike as a coach. I'm sure the haters here know ball better than he does, though.
It’s very easy to say nice things about pike when izzos team team just played its worst game of the season but was able to still win thanks to the dumpster fire Pike brought to MSG.

You’ll see the more we lose and the program devolves the more Big Ten coaches will praise Steve, they probably hope he stays forever.

OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

Here is what I think: The day when I give one single fvck about anything Joe Benigno says, is the day that... well, I'm not sure what day that is. But it ain't today. Not looking too good for tomorrow either.

RU Deficit

The first bomb-maker of the World Trade Center (1993) was an engineer student from Rutgers. A university is the perfect recruiting ground for young and easily influenced minds, plus a softer target to hit than bigger events. The attack would still receive intense media coverage because of the location when compared to middle America. Bottom line, an attack anywhere would be terrible and sickening for any American.
While in college and for some time after I worked at the Price Club (now Costco) in on Rte 27 in Edison. If I only bought Price Club stock then...🙁

Anyway, one of the ringleaders from 1993 used to shop there all the time. Enough so that we got to kinda know each other over time.

Imagine just those few years later their friends tried to finish the job...along with me and my guys too.
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We're 3-1 in the B1G with a healthy Harper (and 2-0 with a healthy Harper and Grant playing). Just sayin'.

We were 1-1 against PSU and OSU in December with a healthy Harper/team, but still not yet playing Grant. And then DH missed the Indiana game, barely played against WI and played more, but very ineffectively against Purdue with all 3 of those games being losses. DH was close to 100% for the UCLA game which we won, and clearly 100% for the NE game on the road, our best game of the year - and Grant finally started playing in those two games, also.

And then we lost to PSU on the road after a very close first half with Harper turning the ankle late in that first half. He clearly wasn't himself after that and we lost. Same thing today. And if one is looking for silver linings, Harper was a non-factor today and Ace shot the ball terribly (but rebounded and played pretty good D), but with much bigger contributions from other players than we normally get (especially Derkack who played far and away his best game), we played a very good MSU team tightly.

I know these are small sample sizes, but just by my eyeballs, I still believe this team, with a healthy Harper and Bailey and an improved rotation with Grant getting major minutes and some of the other supporting players doing at least a bit better (and even without EO), can win more than half of its B1G games. Problem is I don't know when DH is going to be healthy again and if that takes 2-3 more games our only chance to make the Dance will likely be by winning the B1G tourney. And I guarantee you nobody in the B1G wants to face a healthy and hungry RU in that tourney (which we'll make if Dylan doesn't miss more than another 2 games, IMO). Not the season anyone was looking for, but we might still get an exciting last 9-10 games.
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We're 3-1 in the B1G with a healthy Harper (and 2-0 with a healthy Harper and Grant playing). Just sayin'.

Cool. My 2 game comment is a "hope" as it's 11 days from yesterday until the IL game on 2/5, which may be enough, but it's not a "prediction." I have no idea how bad his ankle is (and neither does anyone else on this board) - we've all rolled/turned ankles playing and sometimes one is fine after a day or two and sometimes it can take a few weeks (especially a high sprain).
Ankle sprains are different. J. Broome of Auburn rolled his bad a few games ago and had to be carried off the court. He missed 2 full games and returned yesterday after I believe 10 days and played decently. So thinking no Dylan until February 5 which is like 10 -11 days is about right.
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Is this team uncoachable?

One guy, best guy on the team, takes a lot of midrange shots that impress NBA front offices but are not strategically sound for today's college game Other guy, also best on team, takes over the game 10% of the time. Incontestable, but only 10% of the time. His downhill game is spectacular and other than clear out does not rely on teammates or coach's scheme. We can not pick and roll because we can't pick (offensive foul away from the basket is a triple negative on my sheet) and we can't effectively covert the roll. Takes time and polish to pull these off and that degree of skill is obsolete. We have promising athletes instead of crafty ballers. They block shots but they don't double in the corner.

These two guys, are only months away from high school. Before they got here, their selection in the NBA draft was already a given. How much a player is going to listen to a one-year-only head coach (much less assistants) in these circumstances is going to be limited. You don't know the number of people outside the program talking in these kids' ears. Their primary interest is in displaying their talent and not learning fundamental aspects of the college team game played at a higher/highest level. I've said it before and I'll say it again, taking tough shots is not how you win basketball games.

Rutgers is not alone in the main complaint on transfers. Either they were on a team for 3 years and can't let go of their mid-tier coaching or they've been to 3 schools in 3 years and have never seen the benefit of really buying-in and listening to a coach to be a role player. Trust me, even walk-ons see themselves as superstars that just need to right circumstance to go supernova. Coaching this mindset to understand something like a switching scheme, takes more than a few weeks of summer practice.

Pike is a point guard turned coach. His level of complexity might not hold up in the era of one-and-dones and the transfer portal. In the guns for hire age, there is only so much you can do. Geo Baker is not walking through that door again. The job has changed since Pikes arrived. He is very intelligent and will make the adjustments. I bet he learned a lot this year...but at a tremendous foregone cost.

Martini is probably a smart kid, Princeton educated...on offense and defense half the time it looks like he is lost out there. Sommerville is out of position so much it's part of his playing style. Out of position is why we give up easy baskets and get clobbered on the board. It's position and using your fat ass to box out. I'm not seeing that. Latham is my favorite player on this team and he is going to have to go to summer school to unlearn a lot of what he learned this year.

J. Will, Acuff, Derkack, Davis are all probably not quite good enough for the B1G. A good game here or there but mostly out of control, not integrating in the offense or defense. They are the second, third, fourth and fifth reincarnation of Calvin Wooten. If just one of them had a breakout, we'd be looking at a much better result. That 4 rolls of the dice that crapped out. Bad luck is not bad coaching. (Of course that is the motto losers use too.)

College basketball used to be a coach's game. Why do you think K and Jay Wright gave it up? The current product depends a lot less on coaching, more on motivation and stripping down to a level of simplicity that makes everyone more comfortable. In the NCAA's I bet we see some teams outside the P5 that have unheralded seniors that played together for 4 years, make the glamorous teams look silly, because the old model was better.
Excellent post

This team stinks

I have been reading a lot of excuses here. Time to stop.
It is time to wave the white flag. It is late January and we are now pinning our hopes on making the BTT and going on a historic run to make this season palatable…making the BTT , let that sink in.
Time to face reality. The Harper/Bailey led team is a bust of epic proportions. Jordan Dercack , of Merrmimack and Colonia lore, was Rutgers best player on the court at MSG in a marquee game.
This team stinks!

We're 3-1 in the B1G with a healthy Harper (and 2-0 with a healthy Harper and Grant playing). Just sayin'.

Ok, so we agree, he shouldn’t play or practice until he’s 100 percent.
I disagree with your only two game timeline, but you maybe right.
Most importantly I 100 percent agree with you a completely healthy Dylan makes us dangerous in B1G tournament
Cool. My 2 game comment is a "hope" as it's 11 days from yesterday until the IL game on 2/5, which may be enough, but it's not a "prediction." I have no idea how bad his ankle is (and neither does anyone else on this board) - we've all rolled/turned ankles playing and sometimes one is fine after a day or two and sometimes it can take a few weeks (especially a high sprain).
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We're 3-1 in the B1G with a healthy Harper (and 2-0 with a healthy Harper and Grant playing). Just sayin'.

We were 1-1 against PSU and OSU in December with a healthy Harper/team, but still not yet playing Grant. And then DH missed the Indiana game, barely played against WI and played more, but very ineffectively against Purdue with all 3 of those games being losses. DH was close to 100% for the UCLA game which we won, and clearly 100% for the NE game on the road, our best game of the year - and Grant finally started playing in those two games, also.

And then we lost to PSU on the road after a very close first half with Harper turning the ankle late in that first half. He clearly wasn't himself after that and we lost. Same thing today. And if one is looking for silver linings, Harper was a non-factor today and Ace shot the ball terribly (but rebounded and played pretty good D), but with much bigger contributions from other players than we normally get (especially Derkack who played far and away his best game), we played a very good MSU team tightly.

I know these are small sample sizes, but just by my eyeballs, I still believe this team, with a healthy Harper and Bailey and an improved rotation with Grant getting major minutes and some of the other supporting players doing at least a bit better (and even without EO), can win more than half of its B1G games. Problem is I don't know when DH is going to be healthy again and if that takes 2-3 more games our only chance to make the Dance will likely be by winning the B1G tourney. And I guarantee you nobody in the B1G wants to face a healthy and hungry RU in that tourney (which we'll make if Dylan doesn't miss more than another 2 games, IMO). Not the season anyone was looking for, but we might still get an exciting last 9-10 games.
To piggyback on your post and to take it forward. Pike ‘s loyalty going with some of his portal guys and praying some magic will happen has to end. He sat Dylan Grant for like 10 minutes and didn’t play Dortch in the second half and at a critical stretch of the game went with Martini and JMike , and Martini proceeded to miss all 4 of his open three pointers . He makes 2 of them the game goes to the wire since it went from a 4 point game to a 10-12 game when MSU went on a spurt and we went scoreless and instead it would have been 4-6.
Also, another crucial sequence , Jeremiah with a reckless drive misses a layup badly and MSU in transition finally hit a 3 and that is a 5 point swing . Another Jeremiah disaster. JMike once again attempts to go into trees gets swatted and MSU has a runout. When is he ever going to learn and when are the coaches going to tell him he cannot do that again this year.

We got a career game from Jordan and it wasn’t enough.

Going forward , Pike has to play the freshman more. No Dylan until healthy but ACE, Dylan Grant , Lathan , and a sprinkling of Dortch from here on out. That is his most athletic team that has the best chance on the offensive and defensive ends . Lathan has to be fed in the post more. I know he missed threes and mid range shots yesterday but he is capable of hitting that midrange but he also can get you a bucket down low. His defense is not great but he has to rebound better. Dylan Grant is not shy about shooting the 3 but if he makes 2-4 or 3-7 we need that . Plus he can rebound on both ends and he can block shots. He has to play more not less and Pike ‘s fascination with Martini has to end. ACE unfortunately was off yesterday since his normal shooting night with Jordan ‘s career night would have gotten the upset. Jordan and Jeremiah off the bench if he wants to start Acuff and that’s it. Jordan for the first time yesterday did not hesitant on his threes and just let it fly. Hopefully that leads to better 3 point shooting the rest of the way. His drives were more under control yesterday as well. If we had this in any previous games , losses would have been wins. Hopefully this gives him confidence going forward.
Pike has to play his better more athletic players from here on out.
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