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Freshman on the road......

DHajekRC84
NewJerseyHawk said:
It's still an obvious thing that freshman are going to be wildly inconsistent, even super skilled/talented ones like Harper and Bailey and even Zoom Diallo for Washington.

But there were a lot of people on threads earlier this week, who arent qualified to talk about toughness or talent in terms of basketball, trying to downplay the talent of the 4 RU freshman.

65 total points
(22 of 28 from FT line)
5 of 13 from 3 point range (38.4%)
13 rebounds
4 assists
2 blocks
5 steals
7 turnovers

And with these types of numbers, the roster just needed something from its other contributors, which it did tonight from

JWill timely baskets and plays (2 3s) .

Acuff (1 3 pointer) and decent minutes.

JMike playing within the gameplan.

Martini adding an assist in 16 minutes.

Even a Derkack with a steal and a 3 before the untimely 2 turnovers or rushed passes in the 1st half and total of 5 minutes.

It's very tough to ask for 50 to 60+ points, 15 to 20 rebounds, 5 to.7 assists and 5+ blocks/steals from the freshman in order to win.....especially a B1G road game.....but that's where this roster is right now. Debating how we got here is already obvious, there's little point to argue about nonsense when this was always my reality and where RU sports is, in this NIL environment.

I don't know if there are too many wins the rest of the way unless there's this equation of productivity. But it takes some patience that knowledgeable hoops fans understand is part of the process.

Inconsistent play is most of the equation with freshman, so it's anyone's guess on what to expect the rest of the way. But I'm on board willing to see it play out with freshman logging minutes.
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I have really (for the most part) respected your posts over the many years but I have go to say you really need to knock all this condescending crap off. You've been historically better than that. The moment I read it I shut you off and that's a shame since I least give your comments a thought and consideration. Take it for what it is worth (which I'm pretty sure is zilch).

"there were a lot of people on threads earlier this week, who arent qualified to talk about toughness or talent in terms of basketball"
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PSAL_Hoops said:
Yeah the frosh thing is a horrible take.

The bottom line is even your first statement isn’t true as a stand alone. The game ends in a loss if our pair of statistically poor long range shooters (J Will and Jordan were at 25% entering the game) don’t go a perfect 3-3 from three in regulation.
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You cannot make that statement claiming Jeremiah hit 2 and Jordan hit 1 so that is why the game was won. That is such shallow analysis of someone who never watched the game. If they did watch , tons of things happened but I can think of 2 things off the bat that won the game ; Dylan getting 34 points and Jeremiah ‘s steal.
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Everyone is complaining about the offense, but ….

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seansherm said:
Sommerville is not a 4. Unfortunately, it's questionable if he is a 5 also.
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So many of our fans think we need to prioritize keeping him. The problem is, if we don’t prioritize bringing in a rim protector we will be far worse next season. With or without Lathan. And Lathan apparently didn’t even want to come this year if we brought in another BIG so….
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BACATOLOGY 2/17: 1st 2025 NCAA Tournament Analysis

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bac2therac said:
I would flip flop them with Gonzaga today and move them to a 10. I think they are still above that SEC drek frey around the bubble but they better win at least 2 more. An 18-13 Nebraska could be in trouble. The PSU loss only counts as Q1 now despite it having a feel of a horrific loss.
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So if Nebraska were to collapse they could miss the tourney, a Michigan win would maybe make them a lock. They have some games left that are on the easier side by Big 10 standards, Iowa and Minnesota at home, OSU road, they really should be able to win some with that schedule and should not miss the tournament. It would take an epic collapse.
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Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season

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snowboarder said:
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These rankings would say that Schiano is doing far better then pike in the transfer portal
Not in the same universe
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Sorry but this is a load of BS, because no one knows the impact that these transfers will actually have. It’s a projection. When we face Iowa, that’s how we’ll know how good our transfers really are.

If we had real funds, we’d be taking P5 transfers, not James Madison or Ohio transfers.
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Freshman on the road......

SHUSource
NewJerseyHawk said:
It's only ignored on the surface because Nova and UConn have won national championships. And in MOST cases across CBB and CFB, the easier a path is for a program during the regular season, the more the flaws get hidden and the lighter the workload.

While PSU stinks, they're much better than Depaul.....Nebraska is not deemed a Top team and won at Creighton earlier this year.

St Johns played a tough game against Creighton on Sunday and their reward is a road trip to Chicago for their next game.

Nebraska played a road game vs Northwestern on Sunday and travels to PSU Wednesday and lose by 20+....the margins for error are much smaller in the B1G and SEC and Big 12. It's just the reality of what it is over 4 months.
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That dynamic doesn't seem to have impeded Kansas or Baylor in the near past. Nor has it ever helped the perennial contender in Gonzaga, which always had the easiest path playing in a league that was beneath it, and never won the thing. I think by the time we get to the Final Four, flaws have all been exposed for what they are, and you see the best teams win it. Fluky may even carry a team to the final (and that is so rare), but that team never wins it all.

Nebraska and Creighton is a huge rivalry, so that's always going to have those kind of results. It's also only one game.

I remember a few years ago when DePaul won three Big East games but was 4-0 against the Big Ten. I did not extrapolate from that that DePaul would be undefeated in the Big Ten. But it did show me that at least that year, the bottom of the Big East was better than the bottom of the Big Ten. This year, the opposite is true.
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cubuffsdoug said:
They play 70% of the minutes because Pike overestimated the talent of the transfers. In an ideal situation, the freshmen play in spots to help their development. The failure of the transfers speaks more to them than the freshmen. If there was quality upperclassmen surrounding Ace and Dylan, that should be enough to be a good team battling for a March bid. The upperclassmen sidekicks are so bad, no matter what Ace or Dylan do is never enough. Henceforth, the other freshmen provided a better chance to win. The problem starts with Pike and how he assembled the team.
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If the game was offensive ONLY I could agree with this.
Defense is 50% of the game and they are liabilities there.

Supporting cast did fine last night. Ace and Dylan played great offensively and we still needed OT to beat a bad Washington team.

People are overestimating what type of college basketball players Ace and Dylan are.
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This season is not over, there is a lot still to play for

TommyGunn
RUforlife said:
There is a lot of basketball still to be played, I can't take all this gloom and doom. All of the larger team goals are still out there except winning the B1G regular season. Yes, I get it, nobody expected the record we have right now, but nonetheless, this team will always put arguably the two best players on the floor almost every game going forward. There is no reason why this team can't go on a nice little run right into the tournament. Not saying it is a lock or anything like that, just saying they have the opportunity, so as fans we should support them. We all know nothing makes a Rutgers fan happier than to say I told you so, but wouldn't it be nice to say I told you say on a positive, instead of the norm around here which tends to lean heavily negative.
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You funny
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Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season

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snowboarder said:
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These rankings would say that Schiano is doing far better then pike in the transfer portal
Not in the same universe
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How about 2024? Check that one out please. That’s the year where the football teams brought in very little but you must be new or not k ow or forgot the struggles of recruiting with no NIL. Greg got 2025 with the promise of profit sharing.
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fluoxetine said:
It isn't:

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(enter .333 for probability of success, 19 for number of trials, 9 for number of successes. Probabilty >=9 is 0.14542)

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Yes I agree the win shouldn't be changing anyone's opinion about the team.

Yeah I guess though if you start slicing the data all kinds of ways to look for "anomalies" you are going to find lots of 1.6% type stuff. Also do we really think Davis is a 25% shooter at this point?
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Davis didn’t take any 3s in the game. Jordan and J Will were 3 for 3. And going beyond this season, they are now both an identical lifetime 26.4% from 3 - 91 out of 345 combined. Before going 3 for 3 in the game they were 88 of 342 putting them at career shooting of 25.7% so slightly better than 25% but pretty dang close.

The point is these are the last 2 guards your want taking those 3 shots because they are statistically poor - and it wasn’t close to the expected outcome for them to be perfect from long range.
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This season is not over, there is a lot still to play for

GoodOl'Rutgers
RAC93 said:
At this point, they’re playing to show some fight and pride, and they showed some of that last night after Iowa and Oregon where they did not show fight and pride. Also playing to make the Big 10 tournament, part of pride they’re playing for. I am watching them to see continued fight and beat two beatable teams (games are also loseable), USC and Minnesota, and show grit and pride and show up for the tough road games against Purdue and Michigan. I still watch the games because I am always going to watch RU basketball, but the expectations do not include miracle runs this season, my expectation and hope is for them to show grit and fight and provide us with more entertainment than we might expect. Just play hard.
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^^^ this ^^^ times a thousand.

If we could watch/attend/support games during the Littlepage and Eddie Jordan eras we can do it now. Don't punish the program for your high expectations.

I would love to see 3 wins.. or two and big upset victory.

How great would it be to see the RAC go nuts for the USC game?
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OT: NJ Golf season

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Section124 said:
Thanks! I guess I have no reason to go there now. Unless they have some limited open times.

Edit: Just went to their website. Still a daily fee course with membership options. Will try to get there this year.
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Based on what I was told by a member last weekend, I'm surprised that they are still accepting tee times from the public. I'd expect that to be shut down sooner than later.

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cubuffsdoug
seansherm said:
Freshman put up 70% of our #'s because they play 70% of our minutes. Got it.

We won because we played a team worse than us. UW still shot better from 2, equal from 3. Fouls are why we won, Dylan getting to the basket. Two of Osobor's fouls, I'm still waiting for him to actually make contact w an RU player.

At any rate, any road win is a good win.

And as for part of the "process". There is no process here because the two biggest cogs are gone 30 days.
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They play 70% of the minutes because Pike overestimated the talent of the transfers. In an ideal situation, the freshmen play in spots to help their development. The failure of the transfers speaks more to them than the freshmen. If there was quality upperclassmen surrounding Ace and Dylan, that should be enough to be a good team battling for a March bid. The upperclassmen sidekicks are so bad, no matter what Ace or Dylan do is never enough. Henceforth, the other freshmen provided a better chance to win. The problem starts with Pike and how he assembled the team.
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