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Rutgers’ win over USC adds little relief for ‘bitterly disappointed’ fans

Stupid article IMO. He could have taken a different path. Of course we are disappointed , that is not that hard to figure out. I sat their last night and was impressed how every section of the RAC was packed and loud. The student section SRO.
I watch a lot of basketball and am sometimes surprised to see so many empty seats at some games. We all remember 10 or so years ago when no one was sitting in the 300's. Article could have been "Rutgers fans still supporting their team during a difficult season" .

OT: Mag

What?

1. Every other big time school uses corporate money . (That’s how it works)
2. Not taking credit for the $ BUT if you look at total $ on the floor Nil Collectives + corporate money Pike has more $ on the floor then anyone he has faced.

SO it’s not if Pike had more money he would win.
If Pike had any money we would have a team with more than 5 Big Ten Players. The portal transfers on this team are not Big Ten players.

OT: Mag

Come on again are you new? You can’t take credit for NIL that this fanbase did not produce. Ace and Harper are not here because of Rutgers sponsored NIL. Sneaker and multimedia NIL is why we have our 5
What?

1. Every other big time school uses corporate money . (That’s how it works)
2. Not taking credit for the $ BUT if you look at total $ on the floor Nil Collectives + corporate money Pike has more $ on the floor then anyone he has faced.

SO it’s not if Pike had more money he would win.
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USC head coach Eric Musselman talks after the Trojans lost 95-85 at Rutgers

I really have always followed Musselman closely and he had earned a hot-head mentality from his NBA days. But he appears to have mellowed a bit and more frank and telling, which is why he runs out of runway with each stop he's been at.

He is so "matter of fact" that it may offend fans, but he is calculated. The notion that perhaps Pike or RU scheduled a 3 hour block for the R shoot-around and allowed USC at 9AM seems more than fair. USC has been on the East Coast for 3 to 4 days, 9AM ET is not too bad.

His point about the home court advantage in rowdy B1G gyms. ..its a direct message for the LA fanbases to get to the arenas and support the Trojans and Bruins. .which in this climate of weather issues, fires, mudslides and other hurdles, may not land very well.

I would not bet against Musselman the next 2 to 3 years, he lands kids at a good rate in recruiting and landed Gilbert Arenas' son Alijah, who is probably as explosive as guard as Dylan Harper in transition or fast breaks. He just doesn't have the change of pace play that Harper has mastered at such a young age, but USC with Arenas, Desmond Claude along with wings like Saint Thomas and Wesley Yates, might have the most explosive 4 perimeter players in the B1G next year.

Arenas was a class of 2026 kid who declassified back to 2025 and is a consensus 5* player.

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Basketball Rutgers Basketball wins second straight, downs USC 95-85

So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
A few wins in the BTT, even losing in the championship game, will have minimal impact. The committee has already made its mind up before these things finish. See Texas A&M from 2022.
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Basketball Rutgers Basketball wins second straight, downs USC 95-85

So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
If they win the Big10 tourney resume not considered and they are in. Any team wins conference tournament they are in

OT: Mag

They left because they got paid elsewhere. If Pike had funds those dudes would still be here. Rutgers fans want to win for free and if that doesn’t happen it’s Pikes fault and this thread shows most Rutgers fans just criticize players and forget that money talks and BS is talked about daily here. Coulda shouda woulda but not without $$$$$
Agree but will ppl look past is we have more $$$$$ on the floor then any team we have played minus 1 Bama.

So the $$$$$ is on the floor for Pike
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OT: Mag

They left because they got paid elsewhere. If Pike had funds those dudes would still be here. Rutgers fans want to win for free and if that doesn’t happen it’s Pikes fault and this thread shows most Rutgers fans just criticize players and forget that money talks and BS is talked about daily here. Coulda shouda woulda but not without $$$$$

Basketball Rutgers Basketball wins second straight, downs USC 95-85

Of course they look at them for bid stealer purposes, but the conference tournaments are not adding to your resume if you are trying to get in as an at large team. They evaluate at large teams essentially prior to the conference tournaments and they already know who is in and who is out and rank the teams. If there are any bid stealers, then the lowest ranked at large team gets dropped out of the field.

Conference tournaments can impact seeding for teams that are already in, they don’t add to the resumes for teams that are way back on the bubble standings.
So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong

Duke - Illinois

Not blaming Garden but did happen there like it or not. Sometimes out of comfort zone…

Garden home court advantage while nice is still not the rabid RAC.

Well aware we’ve lost games at the RAC but that’s neither here nor there, what’s best chance for a win?

Also adding unnecessary logistical issues for a home game.

Love how announcers in today’s game noted that Izzo raised the white flag of surrender the last time he played at the RAC.
As all RU fans know he hasn’t been back since.

Never ever give up conference games.
Again
Izzo had nothing to do with our moving the game to the garden
Both times RU and the garden approached him about it
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USC head coach Eric Musselman talks after the Trojans lost 95-85 at Rutgers

Yeah, that scheduling is crap. But welcome to the Big Ten...I've always said the West coast basketball teams are gonna suffer. It's kind of inevitable. But this is what their schools signed up for.

That said, charter a damn plane that can go coast to coast without refueling. You're USC lol, wtf?

USC head coach Eric Musselman talks after the Trojans lost 95-85 at Rutgers

Not sure why they were out here six days of it was just the Maryland and Rutgers games. He has a legitimate beef about the starting time of today's game and Ohio State being out there waiting for them but that's what happens when you bend the knee to TV. I thought the Rutgers Oregon/Washington trip could have been a day shorter. Why not play with just one day in between. Stopping in Tulsa on the way back? Refuel? Get a new plane.

Regarding the game, while it is appropriate for him to be upset with his defense on Harper, I thought they got a way with a lot of physical play particularly in the first half. Harper played really well despit a spate of early T0's but it was the other guys who really outperformed expectations.
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BACATOLOGY 2/17: 1st 2025 NCAA Tournament Analysis

I think the "old" ways of thinking about what used to be the cutoffs, no longer exist

We have 4 distinctly different conferences this year and because of that, 13 losses in the regular season is now 15 regular season losses.

It is literally impossible to eliminate any team from the NCAA tournament with 15 losses with these 4 giant conferences.

The days of Arizona, UCLA, Oregon cruising to NCAA bids is over.....the Pac 12 used to offer built in wins vs some opponents that were solid but just a cut below these 3 schools most seasons.

The days of Kansas and Baylor cruising to Too 2 to 4 seeds is over.....adding Houston, BYU, Cincinnati, UCF and Arizona to this league, has made Kansas and Baylor look normal when an injury takes a piece out of their lineups.

The days of Michigan State, Michigan, Illinois and Purdue, being able to coast home in comfort with a high seed or double bye in B1G tournament ended the day Oregon, UCLA, USC and Washington entered the league. Adding in the variables of the bottom 3 dynamic for schools not qualifying for the B1G tournament, makes NW play much harder at Ohio State this year, vs prior years.

Ohio State is no worse or better than Oklahoma in the SEC or another bubble team in Wake Forest or any Big 12 team.

15 losses is now the NEW cutoff, when 13 used to be that regular season cutoff.

I don't know what the committee will do in this new age.....but I don't think ANY credible NCAA selection committee, can ignore conference tournament games any longer. The teams are too balanced in the middle of these 4 leagues and teams like Baylor and RU have had huge players miss chunks of the conference slate. Both would be locks if healthy during conference seasons.

I can only say that if any team wins 5 out of their last 7 games, in the regular season or combined with a conference tournament, it has to be considered. The margins between resume is so blurred and similar that it's going to lead to the bigger conferences eventually forming their own tournament, if too many quality schools and rosters, get left out. I will maintain that while Ohio State, RU and some others may not dance, they're miles better than certain Mountain West or West Coast conference schools. Gonzaga as a #10 in the NET, is comedy, they'd struggle to win 8 games in the B1G and feel fairly certain they'd have around 5 in the SEC.

For RU, Baylor, Ohio State and a handful of others, just keep playing the games and see what happens. All I can see for RU is a drastically different team, lineup and upside....on the other hand, how do you account for Illinois losing a Top 75 100 2024 big man last Saturday night to a broken wrist and then ask them to go play at Wisconsin snd Duke at MSG?? Even at full strength, those are likely losses.
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