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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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RUChoppin said:
JWill and AWill were desperation moves after Spencer/Mulcahy bailed late, well after the undergrad portal had closed. JWill was a huge risk, since we didn't even know if he'd be eligible for 2023-24 without a waiver, had the betting issue looming over his head, and was coming off a torn achilles tendon - but there were slim pickens in the portal at that point, and we had a massive hole blown through our roster after we'd thought it was largely set.
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omg i totally forgot about AWill..another wasted spot...and you are right...Pike taking too many risks another red flag with EO, J Will and Fernandes all with injuries
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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Greene Rice FIG said:
potentially great players is not the same as current great players.
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my point is Ace Bailey is a potentially great player that right now is an OK college basketball player.

Dylan Harper is a a potentially great player that when healthy has been a great college basketball player
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RUChoppin said:
I'm rejecting that we'd have been able to afford a B1G-level impact 22 year old at all (let alone two of them), with even less non-Harper/Bailey NIL money.

You're talking about dropping our 2 most talented players, replacing them with 2 random HS freshmen, and hoping that we'd be able to trade two of our current portal transfers for two others.... who would be net/net better than having Bailey/Harper on the team. None of this improves retention, or chemistry, or helps get everyone playing Pikiell-style defense.... it just swaps two freshman superstars for "two portal players in our budget".

Also, Bailey was our first commit for the 2024 class (Jan 2023). There's no telling whether we'd have even gotten Sommerville (Apr 2023), Dorch (Jun 2023), or Grant (Aug 2023) without that domino falling first.
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None of us are privy to the NIL marketplace.

I think we would have been able to get a 2 guard and a wing off the portal with the spot being open for a guy being a focal part of the offense playing in the B1G for a reduced rate.

Obviously I don't know that.

Our situation coming in to the season had to have eliminated a LOT of potential transfer targets.

If I were a 22 year old playing for a mid major and saw the tape on Ace Bailey and the shots he took I would stay way clear of RU.
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NickRU714 said:
Is this really the player you want:

“I don’t want to play with potential great players. I want to play with less talented players so I can do my own thing and get my own shots and numbers.”

That’s the argument you are making by targeting play don’t want to play along side potentially great players.

Why did Clif go to Alabama? To win.
He reportedly had better offers.
You don’t want players who want to win?

Sorry but “better players” generally correlates to “more winning”.
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potentially great players is not the same as current great players.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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fatsam98 said:
Ace literally committed on the spot because of the atmosphere at that Ohio State game.
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The atmosphere is unbelievable when we are on.
The sightlines are as good as any in college basketball.
The Sound is electrifying.

You don’t tear down the Palestra or Cameron Indoor.

It’s the one great and unique thing we have.

Again just build a nice concourse out front and add bathrooms. It’s not that difficult.
If you must build bougie boxes put up an elevator and make boxes where the offices are. SMH why this has taken decades.

The trend is towards smaller arenas. We don’t need the soulless morgues of OSU and PSU.
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Pacheco NFL Firsts

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no brainer.. not rooting for the Philly Pigeons... so hoping KC makes it 3 in row.
..but for Pacheco being injured and not used like he was in the past, think they will move on and avoid paying him more in future. That being said, I hope he winds up with the GIANTS and bring the prodigal son home to NJ. Can always hope, right?
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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Greene Rice FIG said:
RuChoppin,

Are you really rejecting that playing with 2 18 year olds that will be looking to put their numbers for the NBA draft wouldn't make a 22 year old look for a different option?
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Is this really the player you want:

“I don’t want to play with potential great players. I want to play with less talented players so I can do my own thing and get my own shots and numbers.”

That’s the argument you are making by targeting play don’t want to play along side potentially great players.

Why did Clif go to Alabama? To win.
He reportedly had better offers.
You don’t want players who want to win?

Sorry but “better players” generally correlates to “more winning”.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

RUChoppin
Greene Rice FIG said:
RuChoppin,

Are you really rejecting that playing with 2 18 year olds that will be looking to put their numbers for the NBA draft wouldn't make a 22 year old look for a different option?
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I'm rejecting that we'd have been able to afford a B1G-level impact 22 year old at all (let alone two of them), with even less non-Harper/Bailey NIL money.

You're talking about dropping our 2 most talented players, replacing them with 2 random HS freshmen, and hoping that we'd be able to trade two of our current portal transfers for two others.... who would be net/net better than having Bailey/Harper on the team. None of this improves retention, or chemistry, or helps get everyone playing Pikiell-style defense.... it just swaps two freshman superstars for "two portal players in our budget".

Also, Bailey was our first commit for the 2024 class (Jan 2023). There's no telling whether we'd have even gotten Sommerville (Apr 2023), Dorch (Jun 2023), or Grant (Aug 2023) without that domino falling first.
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