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OT: NJ Devils 2024-2025 Thread

5 wins in 17 games since Christmas. I know they're down their 2 best players (this season) at the moment, but once again, this is getting ugly. Bratt, Mercer, Hamilton and Dillon were all horrendous yesterday. I guess the center depth really is that bad - 17/44 in the faceoff circle. 0/5 on the PP with a SHG against. Maybe Cotter is waking up a bit, but I'd be hard pressed to find another NHL team getting less from their bottom 6 forwards. And the beat reporters and team shills online can go on and on about them fighting back - how about not falling behind 3 goals to that team?

Again, not that I want him to panic, but where is this GM? He was a ghost for months last year (outside of appearing in a Preds jersey at a ceremony in Nashville last Feb) - and let the season go down the toilet before addressing anything. This team is screaming for a shakeup of some sort. Now just 5 pts up on CBJ, who have a game in hand on NJ, this team profiles as a first round exit in 5 games.

JMike

Wow, Baker has a lot of excuses. Fact is Baker shot 32.6% from three over a five year career, Davis 29.4% for his career so far. Baker wasn't a great defender and he had a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Someone posted recently that JMike's was 5-1 this year. This is probably the most important stat for a PG. And once JMike takes over the starting PG position, which I believe he will, I expect his three point percentage will improve. Baker was associated with two Rutgers NCAA teams after a long drought which, IMO, led to an overrating. JMike has so far played for two bad teams which has led to him being underrated IMO. Baker was relied upon to score. With Ace and Dylan playing along side him, JMike is not. I don't know what the overall rebound numbers were for Baker, but I know he didn't go near the basket as a senior. For a 6'4" guard he was a sub par rebounder. I think JMike is a pretty good rebounder for his size. I know JMike could regress but I wouldn't expect it. If he remains at Rutgers for four years I would expect him to end up with a better 3 point shooting percentage than Baker and a better assist to turnover ratio. He is already a better defender. JMike is a PG. Baker was a two guard, who struggled going to his left, playing the point. JMike is also quicker than Baker and has a better handle. You watch - in two years JMike will be one of the better PG's in the Big 10. Baker was never in the top 3 or 4. One last point - I believe you used the 3 point line being extended as a disadvantage for Baker. Well, JMike never had the opportunity to shoot threes from a shorter distance.

At the end of the day, Davis is a defensive-focused distributing point guard, not a volume-shooting combo guard like Baker was. They play very different roles on their respective teams.

Davis is not a 3P shooter. Not just because his 3P% is low (it is), but also because his volume is low. Expecting Davis to end his career with a better 3P% than Baker just doesn't math. Davis has just 70 3PA through 53 games (1.32/game) and has made just 18 of them (.257) - by contrast, Baker hit 53 of 147 just as a freshman. Davis hit almost a quarter of his career threes in a single hot game. Even if he shoots 2x as many 3PA/g over the rest of his career, he'd need to shoot >.350 the rest of the way to get his career average to .326.

Baker is looked at as a 3P shooter because he's 5th all time in made threes... and he, Harper, and Myles Mack are the only guys in the last 25 years to even make the Top 10. Even without his 5th year, he'd still be 8th all time. He gained his reputation as a strong 3P shooter with a closer line and by hitting a lot of late threes that mattered in close games. Still, it was more about volume than consistent accuracy with Baker over the course of his career.

Davis has a 3.58 ast/tov rate this year (which is fantastic) and has a career 1.98 rate (very solid). He's much more valuable as a distributor than as a shooter - and I'm sure that number would be higher if he had more guys around him who could hit shots.

Not sure how Baker started taking strays in this thread, though, lol.

How many more years does Pike get a pass with no tournament?

Thanks for the lesson on contract law. I assume coach K and Jay Wright had years left on their contracts and walked away anyway.

I meant do we think he’s the type of guy who is going to lead the program into the dumpster fire to ensure he gets paid. I like many on this board feel like there’s no chance he ever turns it around here.

Sounds like you think no matter how spectacularly he fails he will stay for the duration of the contract. Obviously really bad for Rutgers.
I think he will finish out his contract unless he gets fired or gets a better offer elsewhere, yes. You know, like every normal coach does.

How many more years does Pike get a pass with no tournament?

My man.

TAKING THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO IS NOT EXTORTING SOMEONE

This is quite possibly the dumbest ****ing opinion on this website, a website that contains @RUSCFORMERLYRULOU as a regular poster mind you, and you've posted it like 10 times.
Thanks for the lesson on contract law. I assume coach K and Jay Wright had years left on their contracts and walked away anyway.

I meant do we think he’s the type of guy who is going to lead the program into the dumpster fire to ensure he gets paid. I like many on this board feel like there’s no chance he ever turns it around here.

Sounds like you think no matter how spectacularly he fails he will stay for the duration of the contract. Obviously really bad for Rutgers.

Zach Martini - most impactful defensive player? Most important metric says so

Perhaps an explanation that can be made to explain a little bit about the analysis (which I am not sure I buy)....bench players will look better because they are often time playing against the opponents 2nd team. Since Martini doesn't start and finish most games he rarely plays against an opponents best 5. A stretch, but if you want to debate the use of the metric that would be an arguement I couldn't ignore for a part of the difference.

The one thing that cant be argued…obviously….teams have scored less when Martini has been on the floor so far this season. The debate is why?

Zach Martini - most impactful defensive player? Most important metric says so

RU Chop....

If we are looking at this in one game we can definitely write it off because of sample size or something that happened with the other 4 guys. When it has been 2/3 of the year and our opponents score so much less per possession when he in the game vs our players that would play over him it requires attention.

There are times when stats or metrics tell us a picture that our eyeballs don't see. Sometimes eyeballs are right and sometime eyeballs are wrong. I don't think this metric just gets dismissed.

I think your explanation, correct me if I am wrong, it just shows our D is better because Grant, Dortch and maybe Derkack isn't good on D. If that is the case I think the case is made.

Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season


OT: Plane and helicopter collide in DC

Originally they thought it was a Trans pilot but they found out she was still alive after they contacted her. That’s why they thought it was DEI. He probably saw it on social media

Because the commercial aircraft pilot had a Hispanic surname and the co-pilot was a woman.
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How many more years does Pike get a pass with no tournament?

Any chance Pike pulls a Coach K or Jay Wright and just walks away or do we think he goes full C-Viv and tries to extort the university for the full contract amount?
My man.

TAKING THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO IS NOT EXTORTING SOMEONE

This is quite possibly the dumbest ****ing opinion on this website, a website that contains @RUSCFORMERLYRULOU as a regular poster mind you, and you've posted it like 10 times.
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