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OT: Super Bowl LIX - Game Thread

Rap isn't really that deep or sophisticated or varied.

Nobody plays anything - lots of cursing and slurs - pounding base with lots of posturing - rap is meant to be felt in butt-flexing ways and not listened to with any sophistication - its primitive. In a first listen of group of Olivia Rodrigo, Phobe Bridgers, Rhiannon Giddens, The 1975, Ed Sheeran, The Cure and any rapper and and you can know the rapper in 5 seconds (1 probably).

Lamar, Scott and SixNine are different the way Hershey is different from Reese's and Snickers - chocolate snacks with no value. Its not like one guy is Chinese menu and one is Vegan and another is keto.

I'll add to that that the average rap audience doesn't know much - they aren't monuments to education. Rhythm and bass are hypnotic and aphrodisiacal - makes appeal to the lower nature and no surprise rap has a violent streak as wide as the Gulf of America.

As I said - ALL the most profitable music tour lists have no rappers on them.

If you really knew the arts you would know that art quality isn't a steady stream upward. The arts collapse and decay all the time. Right now its widely acknowledged that Hollywood, TV, music and writing are bottoming out quality wise. Smart consumers understand that - then you have the young rap consumers. There's more musical sophistication in a set by The Cure (hot tour last year) than all the rappers work in a year. Boom, boom, boom..slur, slur, slur

In first 12 lines of Lamar's "Not Like Us" there are 4 slurs not to mention the usual mother insults, curse words etc. Its just junk

"Nail a ___gga to the cross, he walk around like Teezo
What's up with these jabroni-a** __ggas tryna see Compton?
The industry can hate me, f__k 'em all and they mama"

Oh Pulitzer magic is amazing

Respectfully, you are a FOOL when it comes to music. To suggest Rap isn’t deep or sophisticated is truly one of the most ignorant things you could possibly say. To suggest the audience isn’t sophisticated shows a level of stupidity that I truly did not know was possible on a board full of stupid takes. To suggest the style of music is "primative" has undertones that show exactly who you are as a person bud. We see you

The fact that you think Takeshi69 is reese's to Kendrick Hershey is remarkable. I couldn't have asked you to say a more ignorant thing to highlight just how stupid you are on the subject if I tried. You just made the equivalent of comparing Tom Waits to Freddy Mercury in terms of singing ability. WOW! Thank you for that. Truly I could not have replied in any way to make you look dumber than your own words right there. Truly incredible, THANK YOU for the GIFT!

You haven’t addressed the fact that of the top 10 grossing tours from last year are all acts that have been around for 20+ years (you wouldn’t mention 2023 of course as there were multiple rappers and hip hop artists tours in the top 10 that year). What modern music is appealing to the masses the way rap music does today?

The fact that while making your arguments for music you brought up anything to do with Robert Smith is comedy GOLD! You said the Cure! Holy Christ you uncultured Neanderthal of musical horseh*t!🤣

As I’ve said many times, you don’t have to like rap, but I don’t understand why you feel the need to disrespect it.

Do me a favor and look up the words to ‘Dear Mama’ by Tupac and ‘Lose Yourself’ by Eminem while telling me rap doesn't have depth. Then follow up by trying to tell me about Ed Sheeran, the 1975 and Robert Smith🤣🤣🤣

Steve Pikiell reveals why Rutgers star Ace Bailey sat most of 2nd half in loss to Maryland

Sounds more like norovirus to me.
You don't usually vomit from the flu, but you do with Noro and you have dramatic weight loss in a short period of time. Just my RN opinion
if the rest of Pike’s laughable ‘virulent flu strand’ nonsense explanation isn’t to be believed, we’re buying the 10+ lb weight loss tale too ?

And do you think they’d ok Harper traveling with that nasty virus instead?

Oh such terrible luck that the best two players and JWill have been sidelined.

I’m sure they weren’t feeling well to some degree. What bothers Shelby is that Pike’s attempts to explain are absurd.

Shelby also thinks Ace’s mid-game health issue suddenly worsened after having his jumper rejected in front of 50 scouts.

OT: Super Bowl LIX - Game Thread

Rex-
As I was told, your experience with your youngins isn’t absolute everywhere. referring to my daughter.

I have a senior daughter at the always has been multi-cultural, 50-50 split white and black Montclair High School.

After game football parties are loaded with country music singing drinking games by the same ratios
Yes but if my story doesn’t jive with yours that is still 50/50 and still is a net postive outreach from the NFL to a new audience.

Biggest bust?: Tyson Stay-Puff

Several things, top shot attempter because he had to carry that EMU team otherwise it was total trash without him. An experienced player knows how to alter their game based on their role. And he's shown in several games that he can put up points with four double digit games in January. He's barely played in the last two games which tells me he's likely suffering from whatever is running through the locker room. So you're bad fit narrative is failing already. The injury played a huge part in how he's been used and how much he could be used.

Thats not at all true of his junior year - he played with 2 very good (by MAC standards) players. That team should have had the talent to compete for a MAC title and instead they were Eddie Jordan level awful. I certainly didn’t watch all of his games at Eastern Michigan, but I highly doubt you did either (most probably weren’t even on TV).
His time at Eastern Michigan was defined by being a focal point of the offense. The bottom line is it would be a challenge for any player to go from that to a catch and shoot type sharp shooter role. That’s all I meant by fit. A lot of his strengths on offense require him to be the navigator which cancels out some of what Dylan offers. That’s all.

Sure - it’s possible he would be doing better without the injury but there’s no way of knowing that one way or the other. The point is - we knew off the bat he was a negative on D and he’s not known to be a good rebounding guard (like Jordan- for example) - and he was a one and done so there would be no future benefit potential from bringing him on for the year. Those things in combination suggest IMO that he was a poor fit overall.

OT: Super Bowl LIX - Game Thread

It wasn’t. We must have watched different shows. I can promise you that stadium had more fun screaming ‘A Minor…..” at drake than anything to do with sweet Caroline
You didn’t watch the game and don’t go to stadiums.
Sweet Caroline at any RU venue filled to capacity would be more receptive.
I’m in no way advocating for Neil Diamond to perform so don’t go that route.

OT: Super Bowl LIX - Game Thread

Zap you have the boards respect for sure but the Super Bowl halftime show is not for those who already watch it’s a bridge to new audiences. Just look at this board how many said they watch the game but not pregame or halftime regardless of who is playing? The demographic of this board is already an NFL audience but you know who ain’t yet? My 10-14 year old girls who came for halftime and joined my 17 year old and all sang to the Lamar halftime show. The 10-14 year old girls then proceeded to hang around and watch some of the third quarter.
Rex-
As I was told, your experience with your youngins isn’t absolute everywhere. referring to my daughter.

I have a senior daughter at the always has been multi-cultural, 50-50 split white and black Montclair High School.

After game football parties are loaded with country music singing drinking games by the same ratios

OT: Super Bowl LIX - Game Thread

No one can answer why Sweet Caroline in any filled to capacity stadium in the country is more receptive and fun for the attendees than anything Lamar sung…. You fail to admit the live crowd was silent and fell asleep
It wasn’t. We must have watched different shows. I can promise you that stadium had more fun screaming ‘A Minor…..” at drake than anything to do with sweet Caroline
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