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The lack of NIL isn’t the fans fault, it’s Pike’s fault

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Greene Rice FIG said:
What are the terms?

You can't compare someone who is compensated based on how he does in the future vs. someone who is compensated based on how he has done in the past.

Coaches get paid a set amount of money and CEOs get paid differentlky
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Motion to change your user name to CMU block because you are that dense on so many basketball topics its impressive.
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The lack of NIL isn’t the fans fault, it’s Pike’s fault

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Greene Rice FIG said:
I am sorry....Pike is my age. He has kids that are my age. He chose to end his career here to coach and he understood recruiting was part of his job. He was offered the contract by Rutgers to coach and recruit.

I am sure the last thing he wants to do is to meet with wealthy donors. He didn't sign a contract to do that. I don't expect him to spend much time doing this.

Does that mean he falls behind? probably

Should Pike walk away from a contract that Rutgers offered him because he is now asked to do something completely different than what he signed to do? NO

That is up to RU to decide how to handle and whether both parties need to get together and work out a deal if Pike doesnt want to do it and RU thinks it is completely necessary.
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NIL aside it is absolutely the head coaches job to talk with donors and make them feel connected.
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The lack of NIL isn’t the fans fault, it’s Pike’s fault

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Greene Rice FIG said:
I am sorry....Pike is my age. He has kids that are my age. He chose to end his career here to coach and he understood recruiting was part of his job. He was offered the contract by Rutgers to coach and recruit.

I am sure the last thing he wants to do is to meet with wealthy donors. He didn't sign a contract to do that. I don't expect him to spend much time doing this.

Does that mean he falls behind? probably

Should Pike walk away from a contract that Rutgers offered him because he is now asked to do something completely different than what he signed to do? NO

That is up to RU to decide how to handle and whether both parties need to get together and work out a deal if Pike doesnt want to do it and RU thinks it is completely necessary.
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Respectfully if you have tickets you should be forced to give them up after your cable provider removes all big ten tv/internet channel providers. You have zero clue what a coaches responsibility are.

Do donors want to talk with AD Name here OR Pike?

Never use the letter N or I or L in any of your future thoughts
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It’s the little guy, not the whales, right

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darkcheck said:
You do realize that’s your theory and not a proven fact. I seriously doubt the person who dropped $10MM on Maryland was a $25 a month guy in prior years.

Not hard to grasp the concept.
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I would have a better understanding of that than you. Big money people are not coming if they don't feel everyone is all in and yes SOME big money people started decades ago giving small amounts and gradually increased as their earnings increased.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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rpiseman said:
Firstly, Hobbs should’ve been hitting every alumni with big and small wallets to fund NIL for this team. That was his job as AD and getting funding for this team was likely the most important task of his tenure.

Given how this season has gone and the fact that many of the transfers Pike handpicked wouldn’t be the best players at the Piscataway 24 hr Fitness, I don’t think anyone is giving him money to go out and build a roster. Pike has proven to be an extremely poor evaluator of talent.
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Hobbs would have said NIL fundraising was not in his contract. NIL fundraising is an additional scope of work, and he would have expected to have been compensated accordingly.

The President came out and said, we are going to go slow with this. So we were caught flat footed as we always are because Rutgers is slow to adapt. Ohio State, Miami, and UConn adapted quickly because they already had the apparatus in place to raise money, having done it for many years.
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What Happens with RAC Reno with Hobbs Gone?

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RUDivision said:
Rac Reno is dead! They lined up it perfectly to utilize the historic season of Ace and Harper. Well it’s historic for all the wrong reasons. Instead creating demand and fostering private donations it’s killed the excitement and energy losing all momentum. No President, No AD, amd a historically bad season does not build a stadium.

Students sideline is a great idea. Think of atmosphere and energy not your own self interest.
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Student sideline is a terrible idea. We do not need to follow the crowd. Just add some bathrooms, add seats in the corners make the 100 seats permanent on at least 1 side, make the 300s seat backs and build out 118. That's about all we need to do, it's not complicated.
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fatsam98 said:
Look it's obviously a factor.

I'd be willing to bet our NIL is a tad bit better than Kennesaw State's though. It's certainly better than Seton Hall's and the rest of the scrubs that we struggled to put away in November.

Pike needs to really rethink how he operates. His talent evaluation has generally been dreadful.
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Look at the box score. We were significantly outrebounded by Kennesaw State. That probably doesn’t happen if Cliff is patrolling the paint.
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What Happens with RAC Reno with Hobbs Gone?

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RUDivision said:
Rac Reno is dead! They lined up it perfectly to utilize the historic season of Ace and Harper. Well it’s historic for all the wrong reasons. Instead creating demand and fostering private donations it’s killed the excitement and energy losing all momentum. No President, No AD, amd a historically bad season does not build a stadium.

Students sideline is a great idea. Think of atmosphere and energy not your own self interest.
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Student sideline is an awful idea
We're redoing the Rac to generate much needed $$

You already have, when the team is halfway decent, a top 10, borderline top 5 arena, in the nation
You don't need to move the students to the sideline as you already have a raucous atmosphere

Additionally, since the name of the game is $$, you're losing loads of it by not selling those primo seats to big $$ people, and, in addition, pissing off people who currently sit there and have been loyal supporters for years

Simply put, it's overkill and defeats the entire purpose of redoing the arena to begin with
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bethlehemfan said:
I am not suggesting that but I don’t believe people come in there as a recruit and it’s an advantage relative to much nicer arenas that also have great atmospheres
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When recruits visit an empty RAC, it looks like a Dump. When the RAC is filled, and the energy level is palpable, it becomes a competitive advantage because everyone forgets about it’s aesthetics.
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Rac Reno is dead! They lined up it perfectly to utilize the historic season of Ace and Harper. Well it’s historic for all the wrong reasons. Instead creating demand and fostering private donations it’s killed the excitement and energy losing all momentum. No President, No AD, amd a historically bad season does not build a stadium.

Students sideline is a great idea. Think of atmosphere and energy not your own self interest.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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FAT MOON said:
Can't take anyone serious who is bitching about our NIL situation while also saying they contribute zero. 5-10K doesn't matter? Are we serious right now? NIL battles are decided by thousands...not millions. Your donation could be the difference between getting the guy the coaches really want or having to settle for someone further down the line. Esp when you are talking with many fans giving smaller amounts.

Of course guys cutting big checks are preferred but it ALL matters. But hey you're all posting a ton of messages about how bad things are on a message board. You're doing your part. Can't ask for more outta you...
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The game has changed and everything helps. The thing is, it’s not going to work if it’s only the same people giving year after year. We need more participation from everyone. We have strength in numbers. Waiting for our imaginary big fish to walk through the door is like waiting for the Easter Bunny. It’s never gonna happen. It’s all on us because we care.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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mikeyo said:
No question. But teams have been running layup drills on us all season. Watch the 2nd half of our game at MSG for the latest example. Unfortunately I had to witness it in person (like many others on this board).
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Our defensive intensity has slipped this year. This is where losing Cliff, and the lack of quality talent on the roster, has really hurt us. Losing Ogbole, hurt as well.

The layup drills were personally embarrassing.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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RUChoppin said:
Average cost of an app? Not quite sure what that means.

I've dropped over $5K on attending games over the past 3 years - but I get something back for that money. I have no interest in contributing more $$$ to what amounts to little more than a Rutgers sports OnlyFans.

NIL was intended for players to be able to market themselves for sponsorship deals... not as a grift for fans to drop some cash in a slot and pull a lever hoping for lucky sevens to show up in the portal.
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Fans need to drop cash to ensure Rutgers puts a competitive product out on the floor. Giving a little more, along with others doing the same, dramatically improves our chances.
That is the payoff and ROI.
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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NickRU714 said:
Did I miss the “We have more talent than Alabama, Kentucky and Duke” and “We need a basketball field house in order to compete” threads?

Did we skip right to “It’s the fans fault and low NIL. Stop expecting success” thread?
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This is the, “our talent is not competitive because there’s not enough money” thread
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Poor NIL is the biggest reason for our disappointing season

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Greene Rice FIG said:
my point is Ace Bailey is a potentially great player that right now is an OK college basketball player.

Dylan Harper is a a potentially great player that when healthy has been a great college basketball player
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Ace is only ok because of the surrounding talent, which leads him to take lower quality shots, because he’s one of two players who can score. Put Ace on Duke and he’s a great player, sad to say.

Dylan has been everything we could have asked for. He just has to stay healthy.
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