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2023-24 Coaching Carousel

I’d still be surprised if he’s let go but who knows.



I found out his buyout might not be that bad $8.5 million if he’s dismissed before December of this year.
( not bad by Jimbo standards )
 
If Kelly does get fired, Jonathan Smith (he's from Pasadena) is a name that comes up. Oregon State is his alma mater but the PAC2 situation might be an issue. Ryan Grubb the Washington OC is also a name out there and Brian Hartline because of the OSU connection with UCLA AD Jarmond.

 
Arnette 2.0?
Some workout well and some don’t just like any other pot you choose from so who knows.

But I think they can sign him to a friendly deal so they’re not stuck if it doesn’t work out. He’ll still walk away with a nice chunk of money.

Arnett for his 1 year got 4M but with offsets.
 
Zach was 4-6 before being dumped, might have been a case of Miss St not giving him a fair shot.
I want to see who replaces him
Jamey Chadwell of Liberty might make two in a row that program sent to the SEC
I’m not sure if he would take it but his name has come up in some lists.

I wonder if he might not wait on Arkansas if they happen to let Pittman go.
 
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I forsee a change in head coaching.. you used to have to get a head coach who could recruit AND coach AND manage a staff and operation. And, while still true.. I think NIL will change the recruiting part.. and we'll see a new position with most teams for an NIL manager of sorts. The head coach will let the NIL guy know who he wants and it will be up to teh NIL guy to find out who he can get and for what price within the budget.

Some splintering of recruiting and managing boosters and corporate sponsors. And teh head coach can focus more on the other football-related features and the whole organization.. through the NIL guys.. will provide talent from an NIL shopping list provided by the head coach.

That's kinda how the NFL works right? With different distributions of responsibilities for teh draft and contracts between the front office and teh coaching staff.
 
Unusual for a sitting coach to interview in season or at least for the news to get out lol.

 
Actually Kyle might have learned a thing or two since his Groucho meets the Nutty Professor act.
Flood's boss Steve Sarkisian had some problems that cost him him the USC position, but he bounced back
Kyle Flood is probably a longshot, real long, for the TAM jog, but a G-5 program might grab him as their HC and a P-5 one might feel he's ready for prime time now after being with Saban & Sark bringing him aboard feeling he learned how to run a winning program from them
 
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wow

i also think guaranteed contracts should not be signed. insane amounts of money here
It is fascinating that a state like Texas, which loves to micromanage educational stuff all the way down to what book your 1st grader is allowed to read, has absolutely no problem with public universities setting money on fire trying to win a zero sum game. It's almost as if maybe they are not as smart as they think they are....
 
Sounds like the fire Kelly talk was nothing. I thought it would be surprising if UCLA let him go.

 
Check out this article from Spartans Illustrated
Spartans Illustrated has learned that at least four candidates have progressed to second round interviews with Michigan State.

Oregon State’s Jonathan Smith

Arizona’s Jedd Fisch

Toledo’s Jason Candle,

Duke’s Mike Elko, >has been on the wish list for Michigan State since the search began.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/ne...-on-their-second-round-of-interviews-with-msu


I believe Candle will be the choice ,.
Smith won't get much of a raise, but a long airtight extension will keep him a beaver
Fisch will get big bucks to stay the Wildcat HC
Elko might wait for better opportunities (Notre Dame) to arise next year and agree to a bump in salary to stay at Duke if he isn't made Tex A&M's HC this year.
That position I believe well go to Jeff Traylor UTSA's HC because of his Texas HS connections and the job he has done at UTSA along with not costing an arm and leg after Jimbo took the neck, sholder and both kneecaps when pushed out the door
 
Check out this article from Spartans Illustrated
Spartans Illustrated has learned that at least four candidates have progressed to second round interviews with Michigan State.

Oregon State’s Jonathan Smith

Arizona’s Jedd Fisch

Toledo’s Jason Candle,

Duke’s Mike Elko, >has been on the wish list for Michigan State since the search began.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/ne...-on-their-second-round-of-interviews-with-msu


I believe Candle will be the choice ,.
Smith won't get much of a raise, but a long airtight extension will keep him a beaver
Fisch will get big bucks to stay the Wildcat HC
Elko might wait for better opportunities (Notre Dame) to arise next year and agree to a bump in salary to stay at Duke if he isn't made Tex A&M's HC this year.
That position I believe well go to Jeff Traylor UTSA's HC because of his Texas HS connections and the job he has done at UTSA along with not costing an arm and leg after Jimbo took the neck, sholder and both kneecaps when pushed out the door
I think Smith or Elko would be the first options and if not then down the list. I would think Leipold would be included too.
 
Thinking about it if I’m Syracuse I might follow the footsteps of KSU and Kansas. Someone like the JMU coach Cignetti or Monken at Army.

I don’t know if Barry Odom would leave UNLV after a year but he did okay at Mizzou and has got UNLV doing well in year 1.
 
Sam Pittman safe for another year, wouldn’t be surprised if buyout money played a role in it.



 
Sam Pittman safe for another year, wouldn’t be surprised if buyout money played a role in it.



We like Sam Pittman. I imagine Sam will have another mediocre year in 2024 and will retire to his mansion on Lake Hamilton in Hot Springs, Ar this time next year. That will allow him to retire with grace and dignity and provide Arkansas with an opportunity to evaluate coaching availability over the next 12 monthS.
Of course we need an OC and need to make some additional coaching changes(like OL coach). But Sam Pittman is still our coach. Yet, i think he retires next December.
 
Maybe a light bulb has finally gone off in some of these moron AD's heads. It only took 76M lol. Long term big contracts off short terms results is dumb. Kevin White mentioned coaching contracts too in that article about revenue sharing. Pay for actual results not the unknown and don't give heads i win tails you lose deals.

It doesn't matter if everyone is stupid, it doesn't mean you have to be too. In "real life" if plenty of businesses make dumb financial decisions they all go out of business. The smart, resourceful, constructive ones have the chance to survive and possibly thrive. CFB ADs don't face that reality and they operate irresponsibly because of it.


From the article:


While I recommend you listen to the full interview in the link above, Bjorks’ comments regarding a new incentive-based contract that will be given upfront in the first set of monetary negotiations is the right idea, which was avoided when Fisher was hired in 2017.

“We have to get the contract right,” Bjork stated. “We can’t do what we did before. … So we have level set with everybody that we have talked to. Here are the parameters. Here is the structure.”
Again, this isn’t a difficult concept to understand when it comes to truly competing for championships, or at the least, contending consistently. Yes, Bjork deserves the blame for extending Fisher’s massive deal after one successful season in 2020, but everyone deserves a mulligan, and it looks like he’s learned from that mistake during this search.

“But then it’s like, we are not giving bonuses to go to the Liberty Bowl. CFP, first round, quarterfinals, semifinals, host, win the national championship. You win the national championship, and you will get paid like a national championship coach.”

 
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Maybe a light bulb has finally gone off in some of these moron AD's heads. It only took 76M lol. Long term big contracts off short terms results is dumb. Kevin White mentioned coaching contracts too in that article about revenue sharing. Pay for actual results not the unknown and don't give heads i win tails you lose deals.

It doesn't matter if everyone is stupid, it doesn't mean you have to be too. In "real life" if plenty of businesses make dumb financial decisions they all go out of business. The smart, resourceful, constructive ones have the chance to survive and possibly thrive. CFB ADs don't face that reality and they operate irresponsibly because of it.


From the article:


While I recommend you listen to the full interview in the link above, Bjorks’ comments regarding a new incentive-based contract that will be given upfront in the first set of monetary negotiations is the right idea, which was avoided when Fisher was hired in 2017.


Again, this isn’t a difficult concept to understand when it comes to truly competing for championships, or at the least, contending consistently. Yes, Bjork deserves the blame for extending Fisher’s massive deal after one successful season in 2020, but everyone deserves a mulligan, and it looks like he’s learned from that mistake during this search.



every contract should be incentive based with yearly look backs imho. professional athletes too

nuts where things have gone
 
every contract should be incentive based with yearly look backs imho. professional athletes too

nuts where things have gone
All this absurd trend with great contracts for HCs has seemed to achieve is to bleed college athletic departments and donors of millions.
 
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Yea that’s one spin on it lol. Paywall article (athletic has $1/month for the year BF deal for those that might be interested).

My take is MSU really wanted to prove how dumb they are. That deal was looking bad even before the off the field stuff.

If they had bonuses that bumped the salary up to 9.5M for the 11 win year, okay that’s tolerable but then back down to some reasonable lower level base which would still be in the millions of dollars range.


Also been reading former Wisc DC and current Illinois analyst Jim Leonhard is USC’s top choice for DC. Would be a great name on paper at least if they can pull it off. Aranda would be a good one too if by some chance Baylor fires him. Aranda has proven he can run a defense alongside a faster pace offense like he had at LSU with Burrow and Brady. Leonhard is a very good DC but unproven in that respect.
 
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Yea that’s one spin on it lol. Paywall article (athletic has $1/month for the year BF deal for those that might be interested).

My take is MSU really wanted to prove how dumb they are. That deal was looking bad even before the off the field stuff.

If they had bonuses that bumped the salary up to 9.5M for the 11 win year, okay that’s tolerable but then back down to some reasonable lower level base which would still be in the millions of dollars range.


Also been reading former Wisc DC and current Illinois analyst Jim Leonhard is USC’s top choice for DC. Would be a great name on paper at least if they can pull it off. Aranda would be a good one too if by some chance Baylor fires him. Aranda has proven he can run a defense alongside a faster pace offense like he had at LSU with Burrow and Brady. Leonhard is a very good DC but unproven in that respect.
Piggybacking on that, it sounds like Jonathan Smith is the target they seem to be zeroing in on. Solid choice and created a physical yet productive offense at Oregon St….solid defense too.



 
Smith seems the best choice.
I thought he'd stay at Oregon State with a long ( real long) term contract accepting less money then he could get elsewhere, but reading the scoop article makes me feel MSU has their man if they are willing to make a decent offer because he's frustrated with the Beaver program's lack of a future now that the PAC packed it up .
 
Smith seems the best choice.
I thought he'd stay at Oregon State with a long ( real long) term contract accepting less money then he could get elsewhere, but reading the scoop article makes me feel MSU has their man if they are willing to make a decent offer because he's frustrated with the Beaver program's lack of a future now that the PAC packed it up .
I think the PAC falling apart is the biggest thing if he leaves
 
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