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If what Zags is saying is true - IF - am I out-of-the-loop or is this an INSANE figure for a guy who has NEVER taken a team to the NCAA's? Wouldn't all parties be much better served with:

- $1.5M/year for 6 years
- incentives out the ying-yang
- $500K EXTRA towards his staff and administration

?????
 
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If what Zags is saying is true - IF - am I out-of-the-loop or is this an INSANE figure for a guy who has NEVER taken a team to the NCAA's? Wouldn't all parties be much better served with:

- $1.5M/year for 6 years
- incentives out the ying-yang
- $500K EXTRA towards his staff and administration

?????

That's why you hire Williams. Save a few shekels, and move on. Can't let the Hurley's take Rutgers hostage.
 
He's already going to be making $1MM+ at Rhode Island. How much of that raise gets swallowed up by cost of living? Now price in how shitty we are, and the likelihood of him getting his team to the tourney next year which would raise his stock and salary. Boom...$2MM.

That being said, that would probably be an annual average over 6 years with the salary escalating.
 
What is the going rate in the Big Ten? Are we at least willing to pay at the low end of the Big Ten range? Been told that Iowa pays $1.8M to McCaffery.
 
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All Hurley has to do is stay in Rhode Island another year, win like he's teed up to do, and reap the benefits. Its a gamble, but not a huge one.

I always thought Hurley was the best candidate (like 3 years ago) but felt until the past week he was not gettable. The media onslaught gave me hope, and maybe it still happens. While many here disagree, this has to be about Hurley wanting to come here. (And guess what, Barchi has been here the whole time, why waste the energy if you don't want to work for him). It may come down to him really not wanting the job. We shall see very soon.
 
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If what Zags is saying is true - IF - am I out-of-the-loop or is this an INSANE figure for a guy who has NEVER taken a team to the NCAA's? Wouldn't all parties be much better served with:

- $1.5M/year for 6 years
- incentives out the ying-yang
- $500K EXTRA towards his staff and administration

?????


yup. I'm kinda with you. I don't mind the overall total package price but I'd FIX IT early years at $2mm and then drop it to $1.5mm years 4-6 and make him earn the extra $ thru incentives based on performance. Heck..even go a little higher. Put his earnings where his results are.

Not just him but any of these guys...results, tourney wins, attendance, etc.
 
So much naivety about this job

Oh please. Just because I stopped going to games doesn't mean I'm not as familiar with the "job" situation as you are and I am "naive" to what's gone on here for far too long. Give me a f*cking break. I think you forget that my father had 4 season tickets from the day the RAC opened, until about 2 years ago, and still has 2 in the 1st row, so I don't want to hear shit my friend. You know damn well I know more than enough about our athletics than to say something like this to me. Yes this job sucks and, no, we don't have a lot to offer, but to think DAN HURLEY is worth $2M/year - a guy who hasn't done diddly yet - is just a bit of a stretch IMHO.

Now I will be his biggest supporter from Day 1, if hired, but I just can't, for the life of me, figure out how he is worth THIS much and that there aren't guys available, at $1.5/year, who might be able to do just as good a job, if not better, than Dan.

What happens if he FAILS at $2M/year, BAC?
 
Oh please. Just because I stopped going to games doesn't mean I'm not as familiar with the "job" situation as you are and I am "naive" to what's gone on here for far too long. Give me a f*cking break. I think you forget that my father had 4 season tickets from the day the RAC opened, until about 2 years ago, and still has 2 in the 1st row, so I don't want to hear shit my friend. You know damn well I know more than enough about our athletics than to say something like this to me. Yes this job sucks and, no, we don't have a lot to offer, but to think DAN HURLEY is worth $2M/year - a guy who hasn't done diddly yet - is just a bit of a stretch IMHO.

Now I will be his biggest supporter from Day 1, if hired, but I just can't, for the life of me, figure out how he is worth THIS much and that there aren't guys available, at $1.5/year, who might be able to do just as good a job, if not better, than Dan.

What happens if he FAILS at $2M/year, BAC?


Well then we will have to go with Williams. Question is if will he bring Beiber to the games at all?
 
Not a penny over 1.5 which is a hefty increase over uri pay. Hurley is playing us if true, move on to another coach that really wants the job.
Not necessarily. Like most things in life, at the right price, he might be interested. This isn't the most attractive job in the world...so for him to take the chance, he may be seeking $2 million per.
 
So much naivety about this job

I hate to say it but I think you need to reevaluate where that naivety is coming from. It looks like Hurley doesn't want this job. You're saying it's because it's a terrible job and lack of commitment. I was saying that three months ago and we discussed it frequently. You yelled for EJ to get the axe and just assumed someone would come clean up. I said we were not in position to attract that person. Well here we are...

The fact that we fired EJ in and of itself says Hobbs/Barchi are ready to pony up. But nobody is signing on the dotted line anyway.
 
He's already going to be making $1MM+ at Rhode Island. How much of that raise gets swallowed up by cost of living? Now price in how shitty we are, and the likelihood of him getting his team to the tourney next year which would raise his stock and salary. Boom...$2MM.

That being said, that would probably be an annual average over 6 years with the salary escalating.
Very little of it. Rd Island is not a cheap place to live. Gas is more, food is about the same, and there may be a little less cost in housing depending on where you want to live.
 
This is hands down the worst job in the country. You damn well better get overpaid because there's a good chance it is your last paycheck as a HC.
 
Hurley is interested. .its Hobbs to alleviate his feara...he has had 3 monts to do it

If not then we pay 1.2 for Piki..im ok as long as Jay isnt hired..it doesn't have to be Hurley
 
First of all, Hurley is making or was making $650K. He will be making at least $1 million if he sticks around. Yes, if $2 million is the going rate, what many here are not realizing is that's the drop in the bucket right now. What's more expensive is the contractual obligation written in Hurley or any top coach wanting to come here that the facilities will be built ASAP and the RAC will be refurbished ASAP. If we are willing to pay $2 million per year for a BB HC, this is a very good sign IMO because it shows that Hobbs has been given the authority not just by Barchi, but by the BOG to turn the moribund program around now and not wait until 2021.

I have no doubt that Jim Delany and the presidents of the other B1G schools not named Maryland are putting major pressure on the Rutgers administration to "Get in the game and get it done NOW. You're in the big boy league now and so knock off the hire for cheap, and show a commitment to being competitive. We don't care how many eyeballs you carry in the NYC metropolitan area, we are not going to be embarrassed by your program..."

Now some will say then why doesn't the B1G offer us money up front like they did Maryland? They don't have to and they won't right now, because we have no leverage. But they do have leverage in that if we continue down the road to being cheap in the main revenue sports, then don't think for one second that the B1G presidents won't put pressure on the commissioner to dump us. And don't think that can't happen. It doesn't matter how good or great our academics are or will be. They want to see that as a newbie to the conference, we are serious about being players and not wanna-be's that are waiting for the big payday without reciprocating up front. Personally, I was rather shocked that Delany didn't have milestones that we had to reach in order to get into the B1G. This is why if we pay $2 million to someone like Hurley or Lonergan or Bill Smith, we are showing as an institution we are FINALLY serious about turning BB around and that means contractual obligations to building the practice facilities and refurbishing the RAC immediately. Where will the money come from? Some donors, who know what needs to be done now and not wait for the Rutgers Build to raise all of the money.
 
Well then we will have to go with Williams. Question is if will he bring Beiber to the games at all?

I say "bullshit" that we can't find another EXPERIENCED, and CAPABLE HC in the neighborhood of $1.5M/year. Shit, throw $2M/year at a guy who has actually coached in the NCAA tournament for crying out loud lol! Regardless we've only been interviewing for a few days and you and your brother are throwing in the towel lol! Have faith that Hobbs will get the job done.
 
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Williams and Hurley are not the only 2 options, thank goodness
One can hope. If Hobbs asks for the 800 number to Disney World, then we are sailing in familiar waters again.

We'll be like one of those 1970's disaster movies. "The Towering Dumpster Inferno", or "The Dumpster Adventure", where the big dumpster capsized in the RAC parking lot.

All drama aside, I still hold out hope that Hobbs will get this right. The patient can only go under the knife so many times.

We need Marosy.
 
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