6 fouls TOTAL 1st half...13(9 on RU) in 7 minutes 2nd half??!!
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I don't complain ever about refs, but it's ridiculous that the game is called one way in the first half, then a notoriously whiny coach gets T'd up for not like the officiating. Then all of the sudden the game is officiated more to his liking? Like really B1G, what are we supposed to think?
and yet Iowa took just 4 more free throws than RU
Bac I hope you didn’t graduate from Rutgers in that case it’s a disgrace to my degree for someone so unintelligent to share it. If you want to completely ignore the fact that the refs changed the game in a way hard numbers/stats can’t show then there’s no curing your dumb brain
He simply cannot help himself. He must have muted the at least four times that Bardo commented on how Rutgers was getting hosed by the officials.
Happens all the time. If first half has few fouls, second half becomes a foul a thon.
Just took a look at Garza's fouling stats this year going into tonight's game (don't have minutes played by him for tonight yet, or I'd include those).
While in Carver: 12 fouls in 256 minutes, or 1.9 fouls per 40 min
Outside Carver: 26 fouls in 293 minutes, or 3.5 fouls per 40 min
Lot of home cooking with officiating this year in the B1G.
Also why his game probably won't translate to the NBA - I don't think he'd be able to stay on the floor.
While in Carver: 12 fouls in 256 minutes, or 1.9 fouls per 40 min
Outside Carver: 26 fouls in 293 minutes, or 3.5 fouls per 40 min
Lot of home cooking with officiating this year in the B1G.
Also why his game probably won't translate to the NBA - I don't think he'd be able to stay on the floor.
I dont think we got an "awful" whistle, but definitely a little home cooking. Welcome to the road in the B1G.
The complaint (imo) is it was an inconsistent whistle. 1st and 2nd half were certainly called differently.
The complaint (imo) is it was an inconsistent whistle. 1st and 2nd half were certainly called differently.
The problem in this game was that the refs blew the whistle every time we breathed on an Iowa player IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THE HALF.
We had an 8 point lead that evaporated at the same time the refs were calling everything on us, and Iowa was in the bonus WITH 14 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME. And the fouls just kept on coming from there. Iowa didn’t NEED a FG for 7 minutes, because we were getting whistled for a foul every time down the floor, and so Iowa was getting foul shots.
Anybody that doesn’t think those first 10 minutes of the second half won the game for Iowa just has their head in the sand.
This game was a goddamn travesty.
We had an 8 point lead that evaporated at the same time the refs were calling everything on us, and Iowa was in the bonus WITH 14 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME. And the fouls just kept on coming from there. Iowa didn’t NEED a FG for 7 minutes, because we were getting whistled for a foul every time down the floor, and so Iowa was getting foul shots.
Anybody that doesn’t think those first 10 minutes of the second half won the game for Iowa just has their head in the sand.
This game was a goddamn travesty.
Even the announcer Bardo said it so many times Rutgers got fouled and nothing called we almost won this game despite the Refs
We were called for 9 fouls in the first 7 minutes of the second half, to 3 for Iowa. The entire nature of the way the game was called changed, and in that span we got hit with fouls 3 to 1.... and in that span, the score swung from +8 to -5.
After that, things leveled off.... over the next 9 minutes, where they were whistled 4 times to our 5 and they built their lead to 9.
Then things turned more in our favor once Iowa was up 76-67 with 4:14 left. From there to the 0:16 mark when we had to foul to stop the clock, they were called for 5 fouls to our 1, and we pulled it back to a 2 point game.
After that, things leveled off.... over the next 9 minutes, where they were whistled 4 times to our 5 and they built their lead to 9.
Then things turned more in our favor once Iowa was up 76-67 with 4:14 left. From there to the 0:16 mark when we had to foul to stop the clock, they were called for 5 fouls to our 1, and we pulled it back to a 2 point game.
This was exactly my complaint and while Bardo commented about a couple of questionable calls early in the 2nd, he also called out the refst for their huge blunder in our favor - Caleb was clearly fouled before the end of the half, as Iowa had fouls to give and time was running out, so was fouling on purpose, like good teams do, but the no-call gave us an easy basket and the T gave us 2 more. They call that foul and we have 4 less points. So yeah, things tend to even out.
Except it was 3 points as Caleb missed one of the technical foul shots. And Rutgers still could’ve scored to close the half even if they’d called the foul (and it would’ve added a foul to one of their guys).
We outplayed them at their own pace of basketball in the first half, up 5 43-38, 4 fouls on each team (1 Yeboah, 1 Carter, 1 McConnell, and 1 Johnson). After the 1-2 technical FTs and quick bucket 19:50 46-38, next seven and 1/2 minutes, Rutgers 9 PFs Iowa 4 PFs, Iowa outscored Rutgers 27-9 to go up 65-57.
Iowa 6 layups(2-3 on +1), 3 3pt, 6-7 FTs
Rutgers 3 layups (1-1 on +1), 1 jumper, 1-3 FTs
(*3 McConnell-3rd 16:53, sub out, in 13:50- 4th*13:08*, 2 Harper, 1 Yeboah, 1 Mathis, 1 Johnson, and 1 Mulcahy) Do you know how many times McConnell has 3 or more fouls in a GAME this year? 3 times in 18 games(twice with 3, and once with 4)
****27 total fouls in 408 minutes played***
****8 total fouls in 7 B1G games****
Going into Iowa... and he picks up THREE fouls in four minutes played SEVEN on the clock in the second half after a technical, give me a break.
Iowa 6 layups(2-3 on +1), 3 3pt, 6-7 FTs
Rutgers 3 layups (1-1 on +1), 1 jumper, 1-3 FTs
(*3 McConnell-3rd 16:53, sub out, in 13:50- 4th*13:08*, 2 Harper, 1 Yeboah, 1 Mathis, 1 Johnson, and 1 Mulcahy) Do you know how many times McConnell has 3 or more fouls in a GAME this year? 3 times in 18 games(twice with 3, and once with 4)
****27 total fouls in 408 minutes played***
****8 total fouls in 7 B1G games****
Going into Iowa... and he picks up THREE fouls in four minutes played SEVEN on the clock in the second half after a technical, give me a break.
The refs were fine in that game.
But if I had to be neutral & pick a team that got the worse end of the calls tonight, it was definitely Iowa.
They could’ve easily called another legit 12-14 fouls on Rut.
Iowa fought through regardless.
But if I had to be neutral & pick a team that got the worse end of the calls tonight, it was definitely Iowa.
They could’ve easily called another legit 12-14 fouls on Rut.
Iowa fought through regardless.
Hahaha...ok.
You guys are pretty fantastic at defending without fouling eh?
I mean sh!t, why stop there?
I tell you what, if the officiating was good in this game Rutgers should have had 36 more fouls called on them!!. Wow, we caught a break with this crew.
Thank you for pointing out how lucky we were last night!
Best one I saw on us re Garza he was boxing out Caleb near the basket and was pushing Caleb backwards with his body and they call foul on us. 90% of time most calls are correct but it just seems like on the other 10% that 90% of those go against us.
Another one I saw - think it was on PM Iowa players drive to hoop from base line and PM is sliding with him with no body contact - kid makes lay up and they call foul.
One more than rant over. On an O rebound by Iowa it appears kid comes down with ball and heel is touching baseline -no call - but it was close
But Mathis bricked two foul shots that could have extended the lead and Caleb missed front end of one and one. Need to make foul shots.
This. In the end the calls eventually evened out relatively speaking, but that five minute period was as one sided 8 on 5 basketball as you will see this season.
It has nothing to do with foul shots. It has to do with the fact that when you are in the bonus by the first tv timeout you can’t play the same way after that. The refs changed the game in the first 5 minutes of the half by calling phantom fouls. Total bullshit. Could we have overcome it? Yes. We almost did which was amazing. You don’t understand the game if you don’t think that stretch completely changed the game and for no reason.
You understand the timing of those calls matter right? Were we watching the same game. The first five minutes of the second half was a disgrace to basketball
If the game opened the way the second half opened, my reaction would have been more akin to "oh boy... it's gonna be THAT kind of game"... and I would have set expectations for a tightly called contest, and hoped like hell we were able to stay out of foul trouble while also getting them into foul trouble. But since it started off with a lot of contact being allowed and the teams adapting to a much more physical style of play, coming out the second half was more like "wtf just happened? why are they suddenly calling all this bullshit?"
It was a pretty jarring shift in tone. It's the sort of thing you'd expect if the refs got the two coaches together to say "this game is starting to get too chippy, and we don't want anyone getting hurt out there, tell your guys they have to rein it in". And I'd expect that shift pretty much neutralized any halftime strategy that Pike had put together based on the first 20 minutes.
It was a pretty jarring shift in tone. It's the sort of thing you'd expect if the refs got the two coaches together to say "this game is starting to get too chippy, and we don't want anyone getting hurt out there, tell your guys they have to rein it in". And I'd expect that shift pretty much neutralized any halftime strategy that Pike had put together based on the first 20 minutes.
Hahahaha what game were you watching. Iowa tried to foul us at the end of the first half and they still didn’t call the foul on them lol. It worked to Ru’s benefit, but that shows how bad the officiating was
Caleb was coming in the game cold after sitting for 3 minutes after picking up his 2nd and 3rd foul in the first 3 minutes of the second half. First thing he did was shoot a 1 and 1? How was he supposed to hit it? Can't blame him for missing, he's one of our better FT shooters. I just don't get how our starting PG, McConnell, had 8 total PFs in seven B1G games, gets 3 in 2nd after McCaffrey bitches out the refs for not calling a foul on his own team trying to foul Caleb at the end of the first half, which led the refs focusing on Caleb? Was it a Jedi mind trick?
Wrong...first 3 minutes the fouls were 3-3. Within those first three minutes the lead went from 8 to 2. Iowa scored only 7 points in that 7 minute stretch, not like they shot 15 free throws during that time. Were all of those a foul in your eyes, no and I'm not sure they were. But some of those were fouls. 2 counter points to your argument, Iowa was up 6 with around 3 minutes to go. 3 fouls were called on Iowa to make it a 1 point Rutgers lead. Also, 2 of those free throws came from a horrible flop by Harper that was called a foul on Iowa.
I don't believe Bardo said RU was getting hosed by the officials. He did point out a couple RU players fought through fouls to score.
We didn't lose because of the officials. We lost because someone (not Harper) didn't block out on the missed free throw when we were up 1 allowing Iowa to keep the ball, score to go ahead. Harper got beat on the rebound but he blocked out his man. Whoever was third on the line failed to block out his man.
he said something like "I know Rutgers is on the road, but those were fouls"
that's getting hosed by the officials.
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