Ain’t nobody tryin to hear about a “rebuild”.

[seansherm]

Or the analytic is flawed!

Example : Look at Turnover to Assist ratio which everyone uses to applaud JMike’s greatness. That analytic would show JMike is one of the best PG in the Big.

Real life: 1 assist avg ( 3 elite scores on his team). 1 he does nothing to help the offense.

He doesn’t create opportunities or pass to others so obviously his turn over numbers are low.

Simply looking at the math doesn’t always tell the story.

First, three elite scorers? Did I miss one?
How often was the ball out of the hands of one of those to be able to accumulate stats?

 

[fluoxetine]

Lmao I didn't even read RUDivision's post that carefully and I missed the fact that he was claiming that the 6-25 America East team contained "three elite scorers" in addition to this guy who averaged almost 20 a game.

 

[RUDivision]

So you've watched him play?

Sorry Floux no except highlights and one quarter of a game.

Just saying it’s possible the analytics are flawed.

I just look at raw numbers before some analytic equation takes them and rolls them up. On face he looks very inefficient. High volume, low percentage turnovers and high on the ball mins.

 

[RUDivision]

First, three elite scorers? Did I miss one?
How often was the ball out of the hands of one of those to be able to accumulate stats?

Dylan
Ace
Lathan (as a freshman big inside )

JMike can’t create a shot even a jumper for any of them? Hell just toss the ball in the post to Lathan for an easy assist.

He does nothing with the ball but hold it which helps no one. Thats why he doesn’t turn the ball over.

 

[RUDivision]

Lmao I didn't even read RUDivision's post that carefully and I missed the fact that he was claiming that the 6-25 America East team contained "three elite scorers" in addition to this guy who averaged almost 20 a game.

Lmao I didn't even read RUDivision's post that carefully and I missed the fact that he was claiming that the 6-25 America East team contained "three elite scorers" in addition to this guy who averaged almost 20 a game.

No I was referring to JMike having Dylan Ave and Lathan to pass too and only avg an assist per game. Although analytics want to say he is good because of his assist to turn over ratio.

Well easier not to turn over the ball when you actually don’t pass or try and create shots for ppl.

Was my point ! Sorry if it was confusing

 

[FinalFourOrBust]

Richie, Richie, Richie. Fact…staff disagreements on player evaluations is an everyday occurrence in good programs. And having honest dialogue among the staff is a GOOD thing.

Richie is currently arguing with fans on twitter than the football team had a good year last year so maybe we shouldn’t care what he says

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Richie is currently arguing with fans on twitter than the football team had a good year last year so maybe we shouldn’t care what he says

IYKYK and clearly you don’t.

 

[FinalFourOrBust]

IYKYK and clearly you don’t.

Those that know the least think they know the most. Write that down.

 

[seansherm]

Dylan
Ace
Lathan (as a freshman big inside )

JMike can’t create a shot even a jumper for any of them? Hell just toss the ball in the post to Lathan for an easy assist.

He does nothing with the ball but hold it which helps no one. Thats why he doesn’t turn the ball over.

Lathan was good scoring for a freshman, but far from elite.
JMike was 2nd on the team in assists per 40 and per 100 possessions, he distributed just fine, only Harper was better. 1 turnover per 40 minutes played is a good stat, no matter how much you try to down grade it.

 

[fluoxetine]

Sorry Floux no except highlights and one quarter of a game.

Just saying it’s possible the analytics are flawed.

I just look at raw numbers before some analytic equation takes them and rolls them up. On face he looks very inefficient. High volume, low percentage turnovers and high on the ball mins.

Okay but it’s weird to tell me “math doesn’t account for everything” and then counter with.. different math.

He is not an exciting pickup for a Big Ten team but I do not think it is the case that he wasn’t a good player *in the America East*

No I was referring to JMike having Dylan Ave and Lathan to pass too and only avg an assist per game. Although analytics want to say he is good because of his assist to turn over ratio.

Well easier not to turn over the ball when you actually don’t pass or try and create shots for ppl.

Was my point ! Sorry if it was confusing

Lol that makes a lot more sense except for Lathan being an “elite scorer”. But I’ll give you two.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Okay but it’s weird to tell me “math doesn’t account for everything” and then counter with.. different math.

He is not an exciting pickup for a Big Ten team but I do not think it is the case that he wasn’t a good player *in the America East*



Lol that makes a lot more sense except for Lathan being an “elite scorer”. But I’ll give you two.

J-Mike got materially better at primary ball handling. I don’t need the stats to know this. I saw with my own eyes. Of all the players on the team, when pressed he was the one so was least worried would get his pocket picked, and yes, that includes Dylan.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Those that know the least think they know the most. Write that down.

Don’t need to, we already know that about you.

 

[FinalFourOrBust]

Don’t need to, we already know that about you.

Fat and stupid is not way to live life. Write that down too.

 

[Nycrusupporter]

Okay but it’s weird to tell me “math doesn’t account for everything” and then counter with.. different math.

He is not an exciting pickup for a Big Ten team but I do not think it is the case that he wasn’t a good player *in the America East*



Lol that makes a lot more sense except for Lathan being an “elite scorer”. But I’ll give you two.

He wasn’t a good player in his conference. He shot 36% from the field, turned the ball over a lot and didn’t play good defense. He is a primary reason that NJIT was 6-25.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Fat and stupid is not way to live life. Write that down too.

TMI, we don't want to know about your personal characteristics.