"Are More New Jersey Colleges Doomed to Collapse?"
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Interesting pivot or repositioning (wonder if Rutgers next president looks to do the same):
hechingerreport.org
How some universities are trying to revive the humanities
To reverse an existential crisis in humanities enrollment, a handful of universities are trying to prove that majoring in the humanities can lead to good jobs at high pay.
hechingerreport.org
Interesting pivot or repositioning (wonder if Rutgers next president looks to do the same):
"HHow some universities are trying to revive the humanities
To reverse an existential crisis in humanities enrollment, a handful of universities are trying to prove that majoring in the humanities can lead to good jobs at high pay.
Humanities like history are very important but the colleges corrupted them with various radical ideologies and agitprop. Alas even the sciences have been corrupted with them now. A high school history text will kick right off with gender oppression and environmental "destruction."
The founders had very specific insights into human nature and the Constitution reflects those. In modern times its considered dogma to believe "everyone is special" but not everyone is actually special. The Constitution correctly understood the human tendency towards corruption.
I would like to see humanities make a comeback but - as things are at many colleges - they are better off shutdown for awhile imo. Psychology, mental health etc are garbage at the mo.
London isn't my favorite city but the American comments on food there are completely wrong. It's like any big global city, there's plenty of good options.
Also here in NJ if it's over freezing recently it's a cause for celebration lol
Agree, I'm just going off of what life was reported like at that EU University
I loved my RU experience. But college is getting insanely expensive here and nothing is being done about it.
Europe has better food, more attractive women (and I'm sure women feel the same about European men), the cost of education (and healthcare) is free or close to it, and the sights are mostly more beautiful.
Literally any American who has gone there, spent time there, would tell you that.
More and more people are taking American salaries and living abroad, and not just in Europe. A ton of younger people are living in Mexico and other parts of Latin America and loving it, and retirees moving there.
I didn't study abroad, but I did go to Europe after graduation, and now as an EU citizen try to go back at least once a year. The world is way too big to just stay here, as much as NJ is one of the places where you get more of a global taste.
If I had to guess a city that's most fun for college students, I'd throw Berlin out there, it's cheap, you can drink on the street, very international, lots of English speaking and English based education.
What I am confident about is British students being absolutely sloshed, they have to be the biggest drinkers out there, or at least more public about it than Aussies who I'd put next and then us and Canadians.
A few thoughts:
Been back to London several times and of course the food is super when one has the money to afford it. At 20 years old and nearly broke, I survived on residence hall potato fare and late night doner kebabs, a sandwich that would have done huge volume at the grease trucks.
On the drinking, Rutgers excess drinking and related stupid behavior was far worse than college students in England. I played on the Rutgers rugby team and one guy was in a frat and the #1 tradition there - celebrated almost weekly - was to double fist cheap beers then pour more cheap beer on the basement floor and slide around the basement naked. An away game tradition was to attend the postgame booze fest hosted by the home team and loot their stuff.
In contrast, the England rugby postgame custom was to enjoy a drink or two with the other team at the on-campus student-run bars the England universities. I was on the soccer team and the soccer post-game was at our on-campus bar, just our team. Again, moderate drinking. It was packed because UCL fielded 7 soccer teams at the time. Girlfriends would never attend games but would show up at bar.
The only excessive student drinking I witnessed in England was the night when exams ended. What a mess that was.
Been back to London several times and of course the food is super when one has the money to afford it. At 20 years old and nearly broke, I survived on residence hall potato fare and late night doner kebabs, a sandwich that would have done huge volume at the grease trucks.
On the drinking, Rutgers excess drinking and related stupid behavior was far worse than college students in England. I played on the Rutgers rugby team and one guy was in a frat and the #1 tradition there - celebrated almost weekly - was to double fist cheap beers then pour more cheap beer on the basement floor and slide around the basement naked. An away game tradition was to attend the postgame booze fest hosted by the home team and loot their stuff.
In contrast, the England rugby postgame custom was to enjoy a drink or two with the other team at the on-campus student-run bars the England universities. I was on the soccer team and the soccer post-game was at our on-campus bar, just our team. Again, moderate drinking. It was packed because UCL fielded 7 soccer teams at the time. Girlfriends would never attend games but would show up at bar.
The only excessive student drinking I witnessed in England was the night when exams ended. What a mess that was.
One of the on campus bars held monthly themed costume parties. Best was pimps and hos night. Could you imagine Rutgers leaders tolerating a student run bar open to 18 year olds in on-campus space and female students dressed like streetwalkers all over the place. It happens in England because students are more responsible with alcohol there.
Perhaps somebody got that costume party idea by learning about a night as a Pitino recruit.
A few days ago, a TKR poster asked what makes Pitino so great.
With Rick, it is about the Jimmies and Joes, Xs and Os, and cars and hos. Rick does them all well.
Perhaps somebody got that costume party idea by learning about a night as a Pitino recruit.
A few days ago, a TKR poster asked what makes Pitino so great.
With Rick, it is about the Jimmies and Joes, Xs and Os, and cars and hos. Rick does them all well.
Rugby in England has a long tradition in school boy sport, and has a streak of elitism historically since it was upper class kids playing it (think Eton). Soccer (original British term the US retained) has the "hoolies" and such like ("Soccer is a gentleman’s game played by hooligans, rugby is a hooligans’ game played by gentlemen.”).
Having played rugby in US when it was still club sport at most colleges, I can say it brought out some of the worst guys. We had an off campus house as HQ and the debauchery there was notorious. I was never part of that and didn't care for a lot of the players but it was a fun game for a couple of seasons. Like hockey it had a knack for drawing attractive girls who liked watching guys beat on each other.
I had a relative play at West Point and they went to England to play at Oxford and Sandhurst . Army was very good at home but they got dusted at both places in England.
There are British gals that still regularly wear dresses more than US women. Hollywood seems to regularly use women from UK and Canada when they need "a lady" for a role. For men you often see Hollywood has to also use Brits and Aussies.
When "Sleepy Hollow" the TV series was popular the last decade, the producers said they needed a Brit to play Ichabod Crane because US male actors from NY and LA were mostly twink, waiters in tight jeans.
"Gladiator II" lead (Paul Mescal) was from Ireland and "Gladiator" lead Russell Crowe was from New Zealand.
They get it out of the way faster...but it's relative. I went to Europe after graduating from RU. I was 21. There were British kids who were 16-17 all over Germany and Spain where you had to be 16 to drink. And they would be trashed before the sun was down. RU trained me better lol.
These days..."older" me...has encountered a British woman who had to be 60 dancing around a club in Morocco while barely able to stand among others. Which actually I give them credit for...American boomers would be way more prudish.
I think it's less that and more that people in other countries have less issues with weight. And generally, people from the other English speaking countries are thinner than us but not as thin as continental Europeans.
If you walk around Paris or Milan you will see 50 year old women you'd mistake for 30. The lifestyle is just different.
Thanks for posting this, particularly because I know alums. There's a place for small non-elite private colleges -- just for not as many as we have right now. Only the best-managed and best-located will survive. The prospects are particularly tough in the Northeast where there are so many colleges like Albright.Another small PA college struggling. Not sure these small private schools are needed anymore and can survive.
Facing a $20 million deficit, Albright College is making cuts, borrowing from endowment
Albright College in Reading is the latest smaller college in Pennsylvania facing financial headwinds. Spotlight PA reports.www.wfmz.com
You're welcome. Yeah there are too many and PA seems particularly in trouble. I saw F&M is cutting staff due to declining enrollment. These schools probably need to drastically cut $30K+ from what they charge students. F&M's full cost of attendance is ~$90K with tuition accounting for $70,566. Gettysburg and Bucknell are ~$85K, Lafayette is ~$87K. Who wants to pay that now when they can go to a state school in-state or out of state for far less?
There will always be kids who would not thrive at a big school and who don't have the credentials to get into an Ivy or other elite school. So some small schools will survive. From what I know, virtually no student at those schools (except international students) pays sticker price. Still a lot of those schools are going to close, especially the ones that are lesser-known or don't have alums with *very* deep pockets.. There are a lot of fixed costs in running a college, so maybe the small colleges that stay open won't be as small as they are now. That will still leave a niche in a world of mega state universities.
There are small public schools too, though. Certainly I think TCNJ or SUNY Geneseo is considered as prestigious as some. Maybe not Bucknell but it is pretty darn close IMO.
TCNJ has 7000 undergrads; Genesco 4000; Albright and Franklin & Marshall are in the 2000 range. There are kids who want a smaller school or can't get into TCNJ or Genesco, both of which are pretty selective.
Does that effect class size though? Is there a meaningful difference to 4000 versus 2000 students? I am legitimately asking, as someone who went to a big college and one of the biggest law schools. We had like 1500 people in my law school, and 2000 in my HS, and I still didn't know everyone in my year.
I was thinking of schools that would be comparable to Bucknell or Gettysburg, so I deliberately went competitive. In the case of NJ though (I know there are plenty of non-competitive SUNY and small PA publics) I see NJCU and Ramapo are both in the 4k range. I believe NJCU admits most applicants, not sure about Ramapo. If NJCU merges into Montclair, I guess that'd make it bigger- not sure how they'd work things.
It's not just class size -- it's institution size. I went from a high school of 5000 to a high school of 2000, and yes, it makes a difference. To take another example, students who go to Yale Law (600 students) have a different experience that those who go to Harvard Law (1900 students) and size is one reason. It's not a matter of whether one can meet everyone in one's class; it's a matter of the "feel" of the institution and what it is like to deal with the administration.
I went to large institutions and liked the large size. But some kids need a much smaller school and the more personalized experience that brings. That's why there will always be a place for small schools --just for not nearly as many as currently exist.
It's an interesting way to think of it, but I guess having always gone to schools that were bigger relative to the average, not one I paid much mind to. I think RU is about top 20 largest, my law school was in the 10 largest, HS in the 30th largest in NJ but never saw 5000 students in a HS damn!
Unfortunately less students are choosing college in this generation (which is going to have absolutely terrible results for this country) and I don't what they're picking...are small schools big on TikTok? That would seem to matter. At least RU seems to be winning, my guess is that is cost related in large part. We've acquired cache since the Great Recession and I suspect that is a big part of it. Some of these smaller schools, unless we're talking about Amherst, Middlebury, etc probably cannot keep up.
Not only is there a drop in the percentage of high school graduates going directly to college, but there is also a projected decline in the number of high school graduates overall. It's going to be a tough time. Amherst is sufficiently established that I think it will make it -- but schools with a lesser reputation will not. Even Rutgers isn't immune. One reason New Brunswick is at the bursting point is that our aid from the state is based on how many students we have; of course, tuition revenues are also dependent on enrollment. If our size decreases because of fewer quality applicants, then the school will take a financial hit.
They walk more, have better public transportation and have better healthcare at the mean levels.
This has all been subsidized by the fact the US was largely taking care of this for them. Opinions here can vary on whether that was a good deal for us, but that’s going off topic in a way that we shouldn’t go. Regardless, that deal is now dead and Europe is going to be unable to subsidize their present way of living now that they need to ratchet up defense spending.
Yeah- hard to predict the future, but apparently this last cycle set all kinds of positive records for RU. But of course, if there are just less people around, it will be a problem. NJ's population for now seems stable, versus PA which seems to be in more trouble.
I don't really see that as the issue versus prioritizing. There are many countries with huge militaries relative to their population that don't have this issue. We are just the only place on Earth that decided healthcare should depend on your wealth.
Other "newer" countries like Canada and Australia are also more spread out, with a few older cities like we have with good PT.
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