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Artificial Turf vs Natural Grass

We are seeing injuries because of potential turf issues (I popped my achilles when my foot got stuck in the turf 3 weeks ago), but we are also seeing a potential between a risk of increase in cancer with exposure to the black rubber pellets. It depends on where they got the pellets from.
 
No way they are going to natural grass. MetLife Stadium had 2 sold out concerts and 2 football games in 4 days with turf - that does not happen on natural grass.

The answer to all of your Questions is.....MONEY!!!!
 
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I think the quality of turf fields has improved greatly over the recent past. Grass fields are the best for the players and aestheticaly speaking. The problem with grass fields is they are very difficult to maintain in the late fall and winter in the colder climate areas. There will be many complaints about footing , etc which can also contribute to injuries, which is the major complaint against turf fields.
 
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Saint Puppy said:
No way they are going to natural grass. MetLife Stadium had 2 sold out concerts and 2 football games in 4 days with turf - that does not happen on natural grass.

The answer to all of your Questions is.....MONEY!!!!
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You are probably right, but then again, the sports world turned away from artificial turf once when the novelty (and appearance) of Astroturf faded. Many Astroturf fields were replaced with natural turf in the eighties. We can always hope.

Ha, I remember way back when I was a kid, my brother and I would take this into consideration (artificial turf vs. natural turf) when picking which game to watch on TV (unless it was the Redskins, of course; then, it didn't matter).
 
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I liked playing on field turf. At that level, you are so fast and powerful the grass gets beaten to bloody hell. I remember Pitt and Houston having really poor playing fields. Same with UCONN. Cant remember a good one tbh...I guess UNC?
 
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I live out in Pittsburgh and tried getting sod for my lawn in 2020. Landscaper said the sod farms were struggling bc the heat and the Steelers grabbed all the available sod. He had to drive like 3 hours to get it.

As someone who has played soccer on good and bad turf and grass. Grass is far superior for soccer.
 
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Saint Puppy said:
No way they are going to natural grass. MetLife Stadium had 2 sold out concerts and 2 football games in 4 days with turf - that does not happen on natural grass.

The answer to all of your Questions is.....MONEY!!!!
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Business opportunity: some sort of hard mobile cover for grass surfaces.
Like a pool cover?
Stadiums can roll it out over the field during other events and not trample the grass.
It would have to be slightly raised and rigid. Not just a tarp.

#PatentPending for anyone who takes this idea and runs with it!
 
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RUskoolie said:
I liked playing on field turf. At that level, you are so fast and powerful the grass gets beaten to bloody hell. I remember Pitt and Houston having really poor playing fields. Same with UCONN. Cant remember a good one tbh...I guess UNC?
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At one point it was considered the worst field in the NFL.
 
RUskoolie said:
I liked playing on field turf. At that level, you are so fast and powerful the grass gets beaten to bloody hell. I remember Pitt and Houston having really poor playing fields. Same with UCONN. Cant remember a good one tbh...I guess UNC?
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I remember everyone slipping all over the place during the Texas Bowl. They had the roof closed and I think enough humidity or moisture got trapped inside that night to have condensation settle on the grass.
 
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In HS we played on some "grass" fields in Yonkers that had mostly dusty dirt with a few patches of grass in the corners. There were lots of pebbles that spectators liked to toss at our helmets (if you ever had a helmet on you know the "clack" goes right through your head).
 
Roy_Faulker said:
NFLPA position is to require games be played on natural grass.

Curious if you think this starts the pendulum swinging away from artificial turf at the college level.

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The NFLPA is behind the curve. Old turf was terrible. Modern turf is FANTASTIC.

Old turf was like a layer of sandpaper on top of concrete. The new stuff is like a plush carpet.
 
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Just an FYI, Rutgers is home to one of the worlds foremost turf grass research programs. If Rutgers cannot figure out a way to get Real Grass to grow then it cannot be done.
Real grass with proper sub layers is not only better for the players but the environment as well. Fake grass fields are plastic and shredded tires, That shit ain't good for players to be inhaling when it gets kicked up, plus those carpets need to be replaced every 5 years due to weathering and wear, they then get trucked to the local landfill.

A Real Grass Field with proper management can last many years,
 
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NickRU714 said:
Business opportunity: some sort of hard mobile cover for grass surfaces.
Like a pool cover?
Stadiums can roll it out over the field during other events and not trample the grass.
It would have to be slightly raised and rigid. Not just a tarp.

#PatentPending for anyone who takes this idea and runs with it!
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Vegas has a way to slide their entire playing surface outside for natural sunlight and to allow concerts etc to go on without damage

 
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Do what Tottenham stadium does. They have grass on these massive metal moving floors that all detach from themselves and then slide underground. It’s incredible. So you could have grass and then just tuck those underground and have a hard surface pop up for concerts.

Go look on YouTube for a video of it in action. It’s crazy.
 
RU to the Core said:
Do what Tottenham stadium does. They have grass on these massive metal moving floors that all detach from themselves and then slide underground. It’s incredible. So you could have grass and then just tuck those underground and have a hard surface pop up for concerts.

Go look on YouTube for a video of it in action. It’s crazy.
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Giants Stadium tried that. A complete, expensive failure.

www.nytimes.com

PRO FOOTBALL; Giants Stadium Counter Tray: Grass Gets Greener in an Instant (Published 2002)

New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority destroys grass field at Giants Stadium, signaling official demise of three-year, $7 million grassy tray system; temporarily re-sods field and will decide on longterm replacement; photos (M)
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
BROTHERSKINNY said:
Just an FYI, Rutgers is home to one of the worlds foremost turf grass research programs. If Rutgers cannot figure out a way to get Real Grass to grow then it cannot be done.
Real grass with proper sub layers is not only better for the players but the environment as well. Fake grass fields are plastic and shredded tires, That shit ain't good for players to be inhaling when it gets kicked up, plus those carpets need to be replaced every 5 years due to weathering and wear, they then get trucked to the local landfill.

A Real Grass Field with proper management can last many years,
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Rutgers had a natural grass field in our stadium at one point and had major problems at the end. My first question was " doesn't Rutgers have an entire school on growing grass??" . The answer was that the company that installed it was the problem. My next question was " then why the hell would RU hire somebody to grow grass?" The answer was basically 🤷‍♂🤷‍♀️🤷. They ripped it out and put turf. Can't remember the year. Will do a search.

Edit: 94-03 was real grass.
 
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colbert17 said:
As the great Dick Allen said about artificial turf "If a horse can't eat it, I don't want to play on it."

Legend is that he actually said, "If a horse can't eat it or I can't smoke it......"
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That’s awesome! A great player who is somewhat, and I stress somewhat, overlooked in baseball history.
 
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RUPete said:
I remember everyone slipping all over the place during the Texas Bowl. They had the roof closed and I think enough humidity or moisture got trapped inside that night to have condensation settle on the grass.
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That field felt like sand. It was horrible.
 
e5fdny said:
Pretty sure the Arizona Cardinals have a set up like that as well.

They might have been the pioneers on this too?
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Could but I don’t think so. I’ve walked around the outside of that whole stadium multiple times for fiesta bowl and can’t imagine where it would slide to. But could be wrong
 
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Think it slides out into an adjacent auxiliary /utility space so it gets water and sun.
 
RUskoolie said:
I liked playing on field turf. At that level, you are so fast and powerful the grass gets beaten to bloody hell. I remember Pitt and Houston having really poor playing fields. Same with UCONN. Cant remember a good one tbh...I guess UNC?
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The Texans stadium is that bad ?? Didn’t they play a Super Bowl on that surface ?
 
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Not a fan of the seams.

Why not do the roof and get real sunlight instead?
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I would imagine this was their solution to being able to hold concerts and other events with out ruining the grass field. I don't believe the seams on this field are an issue because of the design. But who knows.

Here is the Cardinals field in motion. Their solution was to roll it in and out to get sun.

 
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Green Bay uses Natural Grass and Synthetic fibers called Desso. Lambeau field is at higher latitude than most stadiums and is in a cold weather climate . Eagles Lincoln field does as well. Attached article gives a good overview.

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NFL stadiums with real grass and artificial turf: Full list of field surfaces

NFL Stadiums have featured artificial turf over the years, with more than half the franchises still using. Which NFL stadiums have real grass?
en.as.com en.as.com
 
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Those "roll in a giant tray of natural turf from outside" are cool for domed stadiums. But for traditional outdoor stadiums is it really necessary? Just grow the toughest natural turf and expect a little brown in November. Old school.
 
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