Ask a current student anything

[fgzy]

Hey guys, longtime Rutgers fan since the Louisville game in 06, season ticket holder with my father since 07. Been lurking this board since high school and in the wake of the alley and the buzz its generating, I thought I could answer some questions to offer some student insight into the issue. Plus I'm in class and have time to kill.

Fire away

 

[RUsojo]

What class are you not paying attention in?

 

[fgzy]

What class are you not paying attention in?

Intro to Supply Chain

 

[RUin2WIN]

Intro to Supply Chain

Terrible class.

 

[mildone]

Intro to Supply Chain

That course title seems almost recursive.

Pay attention. Stop reading this and pay attention. This is your future we're talking about. [laughing]

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

Terrible class.

But great major. You're almost guaranteed a good job with this major if you do well.

 

[DJ Spanky]

What's the opinion on AD Pat Hobbs?

 

[knightfan7]

Do most students realize that a boycott while a bit of an embarrassment to the RU admin hurts their fellow students on the field more?

Now get back to paying attention in class darn it:sunglasses:

 

[RUin2WIN]

But great major. You're almost guaranteed a good job with this major if you do well.

Absolutely. Tons of jobs available. It's a great major, just that classroom studies isn't really applicable once you start working. Each company handles it differently.

 

[MozRU]

. Plus I'm in class and have time to kill.

I wasn't a great student but this is really really sad. And Hillary wants to pay for college for every single human being on the planet (when a lot of them shouldn't be there). The US is going to fall like Rome in 200yrs (We'll never be able to service the interest on the debt we a piling up. God forbid rates normalize. Game over).

 

[Knight Shift]

Is Dance Appreciation a difficult class?

 

[cicero grimes]

How was the universe created?

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

How many chicks did you bang this week?

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

Absolutely. Tons of jobs available. It's a great major, just that classroom studies isn't really applicable once you start working. Each company handles it differently.

Agreed, but it gets you in the door. Much of you learn in the classroom in many majors--if not most--will be somewhat different from what you do in a job. Nonetheless, the classroom work will be valuable in that it gives you a framework and awareness of concepts you'll be working with.

 

[fgzy]

But great major. You're almost guaranteed a good job with this major if you do well.

Very true but I'm actually a finance major, in the business school they make you take certain required courses to give you a better feel for the industry as a whole I suppose.

What's the opinion on AD Pat Hobbs?

Everyone loves him. He's a hit. The average student probably knows who Pat Hobbs and not Chris Ash. He makes a conscious effort to stay in touch with the students, probably gotten around 3-4 or so emails from him since he took the job. That and the beer thing has him as probably the most popular man on campus right now.

Do most students realize that a boycott while a bit of an embarrassment to the RU admin hurts their fellow students on the field more?

Now get back to paying attention in class darn it:sunglasses:

Haha I'm more of a guy that learns from the textbook. But to answer your question, you all have to understand that the student body as a whole is blinded with rage right now. Reasoning aside, they took away the greatest thing to ever happen to the student body in anyones time here. Thats going to draw an emotional reaction. While I am a huge fan, this is not the case for 95% of the students here. Being a fan of the team is just not ingrained in the culture, and the only way to ingrain it into the culture is to produce events like the alley.

And the sad truth is I don't think this is a bluff either. I could be wrong, but I truly believe the student section will be emptier than usual Saturday; its a shame, big game.

 

[rubigtimenow]

Agreed, but it gets you in the door. Much of you learn in the classroom in many majors--if not most--will be somewhat different from what you do in a job. Nonetheless, the classroom work will be valuable in that it gives you a framework and awareness of concepts you'll be working with.

100%!!
Pay full attention in every class! It's impossible to know which details will be most relevant later in your life

 

[bac2therac]

Are kids doing molly at the tailgates

 

[dconifer]

I wasn't a great student but this is really really sad. And Hillary wants to pay for college for every single human being on the planet. The US is going to fall like Rome in 200yrs.

It made me feel bad, too. I know it's not possible to pay for one's own college education anymore. But I did back in the day, and I think it made me appreciate the opportunity more. I didn't want to miss a thing, even a droning professor...

 

[mildone]

Are kids doing molly at the tailgates

I heard Molly is pretty hot.

 

[Knight Shift]

Are kids doing molly at the tailgates

Hey, what molly is doing with the other kids is her own business. You can get that info from NYC Banker offline.

 

[ruready07]

I graduated not too long ago and let me tell you this - stop thinking you guys are so damn important. You are boycotting and protesting that your school took away your privelages to get hammered. It's not a big deal and if you guys had your university's back you'd understand why it was taken away and wouldn't want to make this a tough situation for them.
Because all it takes is one bad incident and the school is left dealing with it while the students go look for other places to party.

Get some parking passes and go tailgate . That's what students do at most big schools . Learn to enjoy the game itself , not the fluff surrounding it.

Don't get it mixed up, I love the students and think they do a great job (one of the more underrated student sections around). But we need you guys to double down on support and not do the "I'm walking away" that seems to be so prevalent in our society today .

 

[Rokodesh]

tell your fellow students to stop being such pussies and crying until they get their way. If this is the hardest thing that happens to them in life, than I'd say they have it pretty damn well. Drink in your dorms or make friends with someone who has a parking pass. That's what my friends did back in in 2005-2009.

Not trying to single you out, but more-so for the whole student body. You will look back at these stupid protests 10 years from now and laugh. You won't make any memories sitting around in your dorms on facebook or some other stupid app, you make them with the time you spend with your friends out, being young and dumb in college. I never even heard of an alley until two days ago, it doesn't sound like anything special, except a place to blast horrible music. Go to the game, drink responsibly, and have fun. Don't follow the crowd and make your own choices.

 

[ImBadRU]

What did Joe know and when?

 

[DJ Spanky]

Years ago the best dining hall was considered to be Cooper and the worst Tillett: which ones hold that distinction now?

 

[fgzy]

I graduated not too long ago and let me tell you this - stop thinking you guys are so damn important. You are boycotting and protesting that your school took away your privelages to get hammered. It's not a big deal and if you guys had your university's back you'd understand why it was taken away and wouldn't want to make this a tough situation for them.
Because all it takes is one bad incident and the school is left dealing with it while the students go look for other places to party.

Get some parking passes and go tailgate . That's what students do at most big schools . Learn to enjoy the game itself , not the fluff surrounding it.

Don't get it mixed up, I love the students and think they do a great job (one of the more underrated student sections around). But we need you guys to double down on support and not do the "I'm walking away" that seems to be so prevalent in our society today .

While I agree with what you're saying, its exactly that "all it takes is one bad incident" mentality that is restricting our university. Let me tell you guys who may be a little out of tune- there is no college I have associated with or known with such bad culture and mentality surrounding the school they attend. It falls on everyone; the students, the athletic department, and the administration. All we want is a big ten atmosphere and they insist on taking it from us because of "well something bad MIGHT happen". While i will be attending the game and think the protesting is fruitless, i understand the frustration because i go here, and its real. Until all departments of our university see eye to eye on improving our college and making it a legitimate Big Ten school these types of issues will persist.

 

[retired711]

While I agree with what you're saying, its exactly that "all it takes is one bad incident" mentality that is restricting our university. Let me tell you guys who may be a little out of tune- there is no college I have associated with or known with such bad culture and mentality surrounding the school they attend. It falls on everyone; the students, the athletic department, and the administration. All we want is a big ten atmosphere and they insist on taking it from us because of "well something bad MIGHT happen". While i will be attending the game and think the protesting is fruitless, i understand the frustration because i go here, and its real. Until all departments of our university see eye to eye on improving our college and making it a legitimate Big Ten school these types of issues will persist.

wouldn't you want to prevent an incident before it happens, and before someone gets hurt? That aside, I appreciate your giving your perspective on the culture of the institution. The administration has been working on this for a decade, but it's hard to bring about change.

 

[knightfan7]

While I agree with what you're saying, its exactly that "all it takes is one bad incident" mentality that is restricting our university. Let me tell you guys who may be a little out of tune- there is no college I have associated with or known with such bad culture and mentality surrounding the school they attend. It falls on everyone; the students, the athletic department, and the administration. All we want is a big ten atmosphere and they insist on taking it from us because of "well something bad MIGHT happen". While i will be attending the game and think the protesting is fruitless, i understand the frustration because i go here, and its real. Until all departments of our university see eye to eye on improving our college and making it a legitimate Big Ten school these types of issues will persist.

Do you know whether or not other B1G schools had Alley type setups? It seems to me other places make their own party, not expect others to do it for them. It seems around RU it's always "I'll support if you do this and if you do that for me." What about just supporting RU because it's your school?

Where do people around here get the idea they're so much more entitled to be catered to than anyone else and believe me I'm not just talking about students.

 

[FanuSanu52]

tell your fellow students to stop being such pussies and crying until they get their way. If this is the hardest thing that happens to them in life, than I'd say they have it pretty damn well. Drink in your dorms or make friends with someone who has a parking pass. That's what my friends did back in in 2005-2009.

Not trying to single you out, but more-so for the whole student body. You will look back at these stupid protests 10 years from now and laugh. You won't make any memories sitting around in your dorms on facebook or some other stupid app, you make them with the time you spend with your friends out, being young and dumb in college. I never even heard of an alley until two days ago, it doesn't sound like anything special, except a place to blast horrible music. Go to the game, drink responsibly, and have fun. Don't follow the crowd and make your own choices.

The real pussy is the guy calling out students on a message board.

In case that doesn't read clearly, that's you.

 

[fgzy]

wouldn't you want to prevent an incident before it happens, and before someone gets hurt? That aside, I appreciate your giving your perspective on the culture of the institution. The administration has been working on this for a decade, but it's hard to bring about change.

I've tailgated on College Ave in backyards and at the Alley, and the backyards are 100x more dangerous. At least there was supervision at the Alley. People are going to get beliegerent no matter where they are, and if Rutgers does not want to attach their name to that, then you know what, fine.

But this University is never going to take the next step with this mentality. We need to mimic the big schools and their culture, not mimic them and say never mind two weeks later.

 

[fgzy]

Do you know whether or not other B1G schools had Alley type setups? It seems to me other places make their own party, not expect others to do it for them. It seems around RU it's always "I'll support if you do this and if you do that for me." What about just supporting RU because it's your school?

Where do people around here get the idea they're so much more entitled to be catered to than anyone else and believe me I'm not just talking about students.

Other schools have set ups similar to the Alley. Crazy tailgates, may or may not be sponsored by the school. This is what my friends at other schools have told me while they laughed at me because the Alley got nixed.

Once again its just the culture of our school. This is simply epitomizes the inability of Rutgers to spur growth for our athletic department.

 

[RU85inFla]

While I agree with what you're saying, its exactly that "all it takes is one bad incident" mentality that is restricting our university. Let me tell you guys who may be a little out of tune- there is no college I have associated with or known with such bad culture and mentality surrounding the school they attend. It falls on everyone; the students, the athletic department, and the administration. All we want is a big ten atmosphere and they insist on taking it from us because of "well something bad MIGHT happen". While i will be attending the game and think the protesting is fruitless, i understand the frustration because i go here, and its real. Until all departments of our university see eye to eye on improving our college and making it a legitimate Big Ten school these types of issues will persist.

What some of you students need to do is go visit some of those B1G Ten schools to see what the tailgating atmosphere is actually like. I graduated in 1985 and in 1987. I moved to north Florida in 1990 where I raised my family but spent 3 years in Chicago. I have been to a number of games at the Swamp with my eldest son as well as a number in Tallahassee with my youngest. I have been to the Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party in Jacksonville on a number of occasions which might be one of the best annual college football tailgates in the existence of college football. I have been to a number of ACC and SEC schools and traveled to see Rutgers play at almost all of the old Big East schools as well as Ohio State, Notre Dame, Illinois, USF, UCF, Miami, etc.

Please explain how the Rutgers student is getting short changed? The Alley doesn't exist anywhere else. It just doesn't for the very same reasons Rutgers just shut it down. I will admit that in most cases the stadium is closer to the dorms/fraternities/bars so there is less of a need for the Alley at other schools but I have never seen anything like this at any other school I have visited.

edited - I just saw your post where you say the Alley like setup exists at other schools. You are not the first student to say this. Maybe you can be the first student to actually say which schools this type of setup exists at.

 

[fgzy]

Years ago the best dining hall was considered to be Cooper and the worst Tillett: which ones hold that distinction now?

Livi Dhall is top notch

 

[kupuna133]

I've tailgated on College Ave in backyards and at the Alley, and the backyards are 100x more dangerous. At least there was supervision at the Alley. People are going to get beliegerent no matter where they are, and if Rutgers does not want to attach their name to that, then you know what, fine.

But this University is never going to take the next step with this mentality. We need to mimic the big schools and their culture, not mimic them and say never mind two weeks later.

I think the idea of the Alley was great. Let me ask you something. Have you been to other large Universities to tailgate? I have been to schools in the Pac, the Big12, the BIG, the ACC and the SEC and one thing I can tell you is most do not have a designated area like the Alley. The students tailgate with the alumni and other fans in the same area.

I cant think of any outside of UVA that had a spot for students and I am not sure if that was a designated spot or just a space that was understood to be for students.

 

[RUin2WIN]

Do you know whether or not other B1G schools had Alley type setups? It seems to me other places make their own party, not expect others to do it for them. It seems around RU it's always "I'll support if you do this and if you do that for me." What about just supporting RU because it's your school?

Where do people around here get the idea they're so much more entitled to be catered to than anyone else and believe me I'm not just talking about students.

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2015/9/11/9229169/ohio-state-tailgating-faq
OSU has a student area.
Also from a quick search it looks like MSU does as well. I didn't check others yet.

Also should add I don't know if these are designated per say, or have just become the accepted spots thru the years.

 

[RUJMM78]

While tailgating is important to the student body ,perception wise for Rutgers football being in the stadium prior to the kickoff and not leaving at half time is far more important especially for televised games.

 

[RUBubba]

Do you like movies about Gladiators?

 

[Rokodesh]

The real pussy is the guy calling out students on a message board.

In case that doesn't read clearly, that's you.

nothing I said is something I wouldn't say to a person in real life

if you have a better way for me to reach that audience, please tell me.

 

[fgzy]

What some of you students need to do is go visit some of those B1G Ten schools to see what the tailgating atmosphere is actually like. I graduated in 1985 and in 1987. I moved to north Florida in 1990 where I raised my family but spent 3 years in Chicago. I have been to a number of games at the Swamp with my eldest son as well as a number in Tallahassee with my youngest. I have been to the Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party in Jacksonville on a number of occasions which might be one of the best annual college football tailgates in the existence of college football. I have been to a number of ACC and SEC schools and traveled to see Rutgers play at almost all of the old Big East schools as well as Ohio State, Notre Dame, Illinois, USF, UCF, Miami, etc.

Please explain how the Rutgers student is getting short changed? The Alley doesn't exist anywhere else. It just doesn't for the very same reasons Rutgers just shut it down. I will admit that in most cases the stadium is closer to the dorms/fraternities/bars so there is less of a need for the Alley at other schools but I have never seen anything like this at any other school I have visited.

edited - I just saw your post where you say the Alley like setup exists at other schools. You are not the first student to say this. Maybe you can be the first student to actually say which schools this type of setup exists at.

Ok you pompous asshat, The Alley was obviously something else. Very unique. But what I meant by similar is a place where all the students can go to have a good time. Together. If we go to the lots, we will be ticketed. The only place we have is a 40 minute drive to the stadium. Which is why I'm glad they're at least attempting to come up with a solution. Because not having a place for students to gather and tailgate, raise school spirit, and actually be close enough to go to the game is absolutely pathetic and makes me ashamed for my university.

 

[ScarletStateofNJ]

How dangerous are the streets around College Ave now: Hamilton, Easton, Central?

 

[knightfan7]

Other schools have set ups similar to the Alley. Crazy tailgates, may or may not be sponsored by the school. This is what my friends at other schools have told me while they laughed at me because the Alley got nixed.

Once again its just the culture of our school. This is simply epitomizes the inability of Rutgers to spur growth for our athletic department.

Where 2,000 people showed up in a confined space?
The school didn't take something away from you. They tried something that didn't work because of the behavior they witnessed. You seem to want to forget that. I've had this argument with many old timers here but a football game shouldn't be used as an excuse to get drunk off your butt. If you want that then you're not there to support the team in the first place and should just admit it.

EDIT: I should have been more clear. Not "you" personally but the collective "you".