We, improbably, run the table? (And no, I haven’t started at noon on a Friday).
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of course if you man run the table and win the Big 10 tourney, we are probably looking at a 10 seed.
by recent history, the conference tourneys are not considered all that much if you dont have a ncaa type resume beforehand...see vandy and texas a&m in recent seasons.At this point we would have to make the BIG finals which would put us at 21 wins and presumably in the BIG tourney would add atleast 2 more Q1 wins and a Q2 to get us probably in the dance.
Run the table at 18-13 and then 1-1 in BIG tourney and that lands us in the NIT. That is just my opinion.
this resume is behind Villanova and many other bulky loss schools...like Kansas State and IowaI can take a stab.
We would be in the conversation, SOS 11-15th hardest, but not in.
An 18-13 Rutgers NET Record
Q1 5-9 Q2 4-3 Q3 2-1 Q4 7-0, Q1/2 9-12, Q1/2/3 11-13, maybe mid 70s or 66-75 depending how efficient we are winning these three games
N Princeton L 52 (Q2 to Q1 1-50), @ Minn L 76(Q2 to Q1 1-75), Bryant W 167(Q4 to Q3 76-160) could improve the resume slightly Q1 5-10 or 5-11, Q2 4-2 or 4-1, Q3 could get to 3-1 if Bryant routs NJIT and Albany at home.
Yes I would agree with the recency bias on this, however I think it would be hard to ignore the what would be 7 game winning streak heading into the finals with multiple Q1 wins.by recent history, the conference tourneys are not considered all that much if you dont have a ncaa type resume beforehand...see vandy and texas a&m in recent seasons.
What is our status if we reach the B1G championship game but lose?this resume is behind Villanova and many other bulky loss schools...like Kansas State and Iowa
our sor and net is a no go and it isnt going to improve that much. both are working against RU
we dont have the stuff needed on a resume to support a selection at 18-13
im just going off of what they did with Texas A&M a couple years back who reached the SEC finals with a 23-12 record net 42 with 4 Q1 wins in 6 days and Vandy last season who won 10 of 11 made the sec semis after beating Kentucky for the second time, 5 Q 1 wins in all but a lagging net of 80 with a couple of bad losses...20-14What is our status if we reach the B1G championship game but lose?
That's 3 more regular season wins -- two quad ones (Nebby, Wisky) and a quad two (OSU). 18-13.
Presumably we avoid the bottom four in B1G, so we have single bye, then win second round, third round, and semifinal game, then lose final. That's 21-14, but with three more quad 1/2 wins and a quad 1 loss.
Where would we stand at 21-14 post B1G tournament?
And yes I realize this is all fantasy.
that didnt matter to Texas A&M and they took a woeful Notre Dame team with just 2 Q1 wins over themYes I would agree with the recency bias on this, however I think it would be hard to ignore the what would be 7 game winning streak heading into the finals with multiple Q1 wins.
Odds are obviously low so its a mute point but just my two cents along with a weaker bubble.
We are not going to the ncaa tourney. We blew that last week. Now NIT is still a possibility.What does run the table mean in regards to BIG tourney?
Let's say we win out last 3 regular season and go 1-1 in BIG tourney. That to me is NIT.
I agree with this in how they handle it and that conference tournaments outside of unexpected tournament winners do not have the meaning that they used to, which is a shame because there are opportunities for Q1 wins out there in those tournaments for teams. On the flip side, I understand that the turn around time to evaluate the impact of a team picking up extra wins that could impact seeding lines is too compressed.here is the issue...there are contigency brackets in place in case of a conference tourney upset on a sunday in the A10 or for if someone 500 power 6 school got to the conference tourney finals and ends up winning when wouldnt be selected otherwise.
however the field is set basically before that Saturday afternoon. I do not think those semi finals games are being looked at where they are bouncing teams out of the field. There is a whole seeding process that also has to be worked out and that is what is being finalized.
now big east has a few bubbles...and those quarterfinal games could play role but beyond that probably not
you cannot make a resume in a week. perhaps back in the day things were different, its just the trend that we are seeing as of late, perhaps this year things change
im just going off of what they did with Texas A&M a couple years back who reached the SEC finals with a 23-12 record net 42 with 4 Q1 wins in 6 days and Vandy last season who won 10 of 11 made the sec semis after beating Kentucky for the second time, 5 Q 1 wins in all but a lagging net of 80 with a couple of bad losses...20-14
An 18-13 regular season record with no Q4 losses, would be a better resume than last year's 18 wins. It would also bake in a 8-3 regular season record in B1G play with JWill.
I still don't see bacs fascination with SHU beating UCONN where Clingan played just a couple of minutes into the 2nd half. I also don't see where a lot of quality wins are factored in, RU at 18-13, would be more than on the bubble. It would have 4 road wins in its last 6 games headed to Minneapolis.
And RU would be almost a 6 point underdog or more in both road games at Nebraska and Wisconsin, so the metrics would gobble those results up.
It's hard to ignore that type of close of the season. Obviously no RU fan factored in winning both Wisconsin and Nebraska, the goal would have been beating Maryland and finding one of the 2 remaining home games.
I think Ohio State and their resurgence, adds another quality "win", to the resume, it's not a given that Ohio State appeared to be 3 to 4 weeks ago. All 3 remaining games are challenging ones and probably more competitive than we care to admit.
In the very unlikely scenario that Rutgers wins out until the B1G finals, that would likely give them 7 Quad 1 wins with 6 of them coming after getting back their best player. I would think that separates them from those Texas A&M and Vandy teams.
18-13 doesn’t exist in a vacuum though, the Big Ten was stronger last year and the bubble probably is stronger this yearAn 18-13 regular season record with no Q4 losses, would be a better resume than last year's 18 wins. It would also bake in a 8-3 regular season record in B1G play with JWill.
I still don't see bacs fascination with SHU beating UCONN where Clingan played just a couple of minutes into the 2nd half. I also don't see where a lot of quality wins are factored in, RU at 18-13, would be more than on the bubble. It would have 4 road wins in its last 6 games headed to Minneapolis.
And RU would be almost a 6 point underdog or more in both road games at Nebraska and Wisconsin, so the metrics would gobble those results up.
It's hard to ignore that type of close of the season. Obviously no RU fan factored in winning both Wisconsin and Nebraska, the goal would have been beating Maryland and finding one of the 2 remaining home games.
I think Ohio State and their resurgence, adds another quality "win", to the resume, it's not a given that Ohio State appeared to be 3 to 4 weeks ago. All 3 remaining games are challenging ones and probably more competitive than we care to admit.
Can we have a karma-gods-intervene B1G tournament?
- Game 1 - We're up 2 points and intercept a pass but travel, step out of bounds, and throw the ball into the stands while the clocks runs to 0.00.... but the refs just run off the court with no call (RU vs. SJU, 2011)
- Game 2 - We're down by 1 point with time running out, but the clock freezes at 0.2 seconds to give an extra second for us to get fouled before the buzzer. We hit both FTs and move on. (RU Women @ Tennessee, 2008)
- Game 3 - We're down 2 points and shoot a three from out of bounds to win by 1 point at the buzzer, but the refs allow it and we move into the next game (RU @ OSU, 2022)
- Game 4 - Edey picks up his 5th foul in just 15 min on the court with the Boilers up 8 points. We outscore them 31-11 over the final 10 minutes. (RU @ OSU, 2020)
Honorable mention: We're down by one... long inbounds pass gets tipped to the corner, where we kiss a three off the glass for a buzzer-beating win (RU vs. Iowa, 2019)
And if we win all of them by 30 points, we would be hard to ignore.What is our status if we reach the B1G championship game but lose?
That's 3 more regular season wins -- two quad ones (Nebby, Wisky) and a quad two (OSU). 18-13.
Presumably we avoid the bottom four in B1G, so we have single bye, then win second round, third round, and semifinal game, then lose final. That's 21-14, but with three more quad 1/2 wins and a quad 1 loss.
Where would we stand at 21-14 post B1G tournament?
And yes I realize this is all fantasy.
Nope - not this time. Instead, somehow we’re playing OSU in a bid spoiler match up. We’re down 2 and about to lose a heartbreaker but with 2 seconds left Hyatt runs out of bounds and then back in - nobody on OSU is guarding him as they realize he’s an ineligible ball recipient but the pass goes to him anyway. Fortunately - it’s the same ref crew from last year and they miss it once again. He drains the 3 with time expiring to secure the auto bid.in the final in Minny we get war protestors on the court and its declared no contest....into the NIT we go
They did it on the back of their Star guard. Can JWill carry is like that?Let's just do what UConn did in 2011.... come into the conference tournament as a 9 seed, then win out for a NC! 😁
We could lose the next three just so we don't have to win so many in a row. Just the 2 tourneysLove that so many people are engaging in the fantasy! I'm here for it.
This team will never lose again?
We could lose the next three just so we don't have to win so many in a row. Just the 2 tourneys
We could lose the next three just so we don't have to win so many in a row. Just the 2 tourneys
I'm not thinking this way either, just being a smart 🫏 in response to ScanggI’m not looking at it this way - but a variation.
The goal is to try and do enough to secure that 10 seed spot and make a run for the auto bid. We have a flawed roster, but the elite D gives us at least long shot potential to go on a run for that auto bid if we could get hot from the floor for a few games.
If we win the next one, discussion about possible tie breakers for BIg tourney seeding can start.