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BACATOLOGY: 3/3 NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS UPDATE****RUTGERS PROJECTED 10 SEED****

being on the bubble 4 years in a row isnt a good feeling.
You do remember our almost 30 year NCAA drought, where we may have been on the bubble twice, don't you? I'll take bubble 4 years in row all the time over that. Sure, would be nice to move up to being a regular 8 seed or better, but I can live with the bubble.
 
You do remember our almost 30 year NCAA drought, where we may have been on the bubble twice, don't you? I'll take bubble 4 years in row all the time over that. Sure, would be nice to move up to being a regular 8 seed or better, but I can live with the bubble.
we will all ‘live with the bubble’ but contentment also depends on current expectations. 30 years of futility doesnt color the lens of disappointment in the present.
 
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we will all ‘live with the bubble’ but contentment also depends on current expectations. 30 years of futility doesnt color the lens of disappointment in the present.
Of course, everyone was crushed by the loss, but I've been over it since this morning and had a great day. I also am not disppointed in this team or Pike, overall, in any way - just very grateful to finally have a good team and great coach after 30 years of mostly drek.
 
Of course, everyone was crushed by the loss, but I've been over it since this morning and had a great day. I also am not disppointed in this team or Pike, overall, in any way - just very grateful to finally have a good team and great coach after 30 years of mostly drek.
am not terribly disapponted either. to me, it’s entertainment. not more not less. id rather they win but don’t lose any sleep over it either way. too old for that and more important things to worry about
 
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am not terribly disapponted either. to me, it’s entertainment. not more not less. id rather they win but don’t lose any sleep over it either way. too old for that and more important things to worry about
Same here for the most part.
 
You do remember our almost 30 year NCAA drought, where we may have been on the bubble twice, don't you? I'll take bubble 4 years in row all the time over that. Sure, would be nice to move up to being a regular 8 seed or better, but I can live with the bubble.
so you're happy we don't suck anymore. Got it.
For the record we weren't living on the bubble this year. We've been IN ALL YEAR and have been leaking air for weeks.
Last night was us firing a sidewinder missel at the China balloon off of the SC coast and instead hitting three scientific club projects flying harmlessly over the artic.
 
Only good thing about the debacle last night is that if we end up as a 10 seed or so - it minimizes the possibility of Des Moines / Birmingham. I desire Orlando / Columbus or Greensboro knowing Albany is out.

When you intend to travel to the games, the location and travel logistics are quite important (at least to me ).

Just trying to make a positive from a negative.
 
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so you're happy we don't suck anymore. Got it.
For the record we weren't living on the bubble this year. We've been IN ALL YEAR and have been leaking air for weeks.
Last night was us firing a sidewinder missel at the China balloon off of the SC coast and instead hitting three scientific club projects flying harmlessly over the artic.
Yes, very happy we don't suck anymore and very happy we've had 3 straight NCAA teams and hopefully, still, a 4th straight. Last night sucked balls, but it's over and the season isn't.
 
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Yes, very happy we don't suck anymore and very happy we've had 3 straight NCAA teams and hopefully, still, a 4th straight. Last night sucked balls, but it's over and the season isn't.
2 (just like OSU it didn't count..there is no banner) so hopefully 3 and yes. I still expect us to find a way in.
 
if North Carolina beats Duke tomorrow, they are locking in. I know they will be still technically on the bubble but its a clean profile with no bad losses and strong sos and they will have wins vs Duke, Virginia, Michigan, NC State and Charleston. Do not be surprised if they get in even with a loss if they win a game or two in the ACC tourney, as I said its a clean profile and there still are some good wins there.
UNC and "clean" do not go together. One casualty of that school's two plus decades of "academic" cheating to benefit BB is the horseshit phrase "The Carolina Way." They cheated, got caught, and took an escape path via legal maneuvering, by declaring the root cause was an "academic problem" not an "athletic problem." All that said, they remain media darlings. They're in. Go Heels!
 
Yup New Mexico is toast.

Unfortunately many of the teams we're rooting against today are at home.

Tennessee at Auburn 2 pm
Kansas State at West Virginia 2 pm
UConn at Villanova 7:30 pm
Boise State at Utah State 9:00 pm
Duke at North Carolina 6:30 pm
Stanford at Oregon 4 pm
UNLV at Nevada 5:00 pm
Notre Dame at Clemson 8:00 pm

A couple are on the road:
Mississippi State at Vanderbilt 8:30 pm
Pittsburgh at Miami 6:00 pm

Arizona State at USC is an elimination game. I think we'd rather see USC win that.

Oklahoma State at Texas Tech is too. Would rather see Tech I think.
 
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No way they do not put Kansas , the defending champ, in the Midwest in the Kansas City regional

It’s Purdue and Houston going east and west region
 
UNC and "clean" do not go together. One casualty of that school's two plus decades of "academic" cheating to benefit BB is the horseshit phrase "The Carolina Way." They cheated, got caught, and took an escape path via legal maneuvering, by declaring the root cause was an "academic problem" not an "athletic problem." All that said, they remain media darlings. They're in. Go Heels!
No one cares about academics in semipro sports.
 
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Yup New Mexico is toast.

Unfortunately many of the teams we're rooting against today are at home.

Tennessee at Auburn
Kansas State at West Virginia
UConn at Villanova
Boise State at Utah State
Duke at North Carolina
Stanford at Oregon
UNLV at Nevada
Notre Dame at Clemson

A couple are on the road:
Mississippi State at Vanderbilt
Pittsburgh at Miami

Arizona State at USC is an elimination game. I think we'd rather see USC win that.

Oklahoma State at Texas Tech is too. Would rather see Tech I think.
Clearly we want Tennessee, Kansas State, Boise State, Duke, UNLV, Miami, and Vandy.
Why do I care if Villanova beats UConn? Def want Nova to lose in their conference tourney.
Stanford over Oregon? Eh.
ND over Clemson? Eh
Ok at v TT. Eh.
I guess on AZ St but not as much as the above list.
 
Only good thing about the debacle last night is that if we end up as a 10 seed or so - it minimizes the possibility of Des Moines / Birmingham. I desire Orlando / Columbus or Greensboro knowing Albany is out.

When you intend to travel to the games, the location and travel logistics are quite important (at least to me ).

Just trying to make a positive from a negative.
True…if they clean up tomorrow and wind up a 10, I’m good
 
Yup New Mexico is toast.

Unfortunately many of the teams we're rooting against today are at home.

Tennessee at Auburn
Kansas State at West Virginia
UConn at Villanova
Boise State at Utah State
Duke at North Carolina
Stanford at Oregon
UNLV at Nevada
Notre Dame at Clemson

A couple are on the road:
Mississippi State at Vanderbilt
Pittsburgh at Miami

Arizona State at USC is an elimination game. I think we'd rather see USC win that.

Oklahoma State at Texas Tech is too. Would rather see Tech I think.
I think we also want Oral Roberts to either win the Summit tourney or lose in an early round. They play in the quarterfinals today against North Dakota.

Unfortunately the tournament is being played in South Dakota, and with South Dakota State being the 2 seed I could absolutely see Oral Roberts making it to the finals and losing.
 
Except those programs who were held accountable to their respective school's administrations who did care. Past tense, yes. Have to think the UNC saga had some influence on relieving the burden for many schools that followed rules and on accountability. #NIL
What schools ? No one cares. You think anyone cares if we had good students and lousy basketball players on our team for the 30 years before pike got here ? No one cares all that matters is winning
 
You do remember our almost 30 year NCAA drought, where we may have been on the bubble twice, don't you? I'll take bubble 4 years in row all the time over that. Sure, would be nice to move up to being a regular 8 seed or better, but I can live with the bubble.
Exactly- 0 for 30 years was brutal- let’s just get to Dayton.
 
Bac

No way they do not put Kansas , the defending champ, in the Midwest in the Kansas City regional

It’s Purdue and Houston going east and west region


yes, coming into the week Kansas was behind Houston but that is going to change for next weeks full scrub. Kansas could possibly even move to my top 1 supplanting Alabama

Purdue hopes to hold on as that last 1, I think only UCLA has a shot at supplanting them
 
Morehead State who was the Ohio Valley regular season champ falls to SE Missouri in the semis

Today the first team punches in at the Ohio Valley tourney finals when SE Missouri takes on Tennessee Tech
 
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they are live streaming now....didnt catch the first 45 minutes but they will be seeding RU at some point, they are up to the 9 seed, not sure if ru was discussed yet but will look back

 
we shouldnt feel good....4 Q3 losses is a bad look as is the 312 non conference sos.....Pikiell needs to schedule better. this isnt even up for debate, every bracketologists says so, its glaring
Agreed and why we need Gonzaga on the schedule next year not St Johns
We had Baylor on the schedule in Covid year but clearly that game didnt happen
 
We have had multiple runs of hard luck and injuries this year. I get ripping the weak scheduling but overall are still 18-12 with some impressive wins, home and road, overall.

1) Temple loss w/out Paul and Caleb, 2) loss @ Miami w/out Paul, 3&4) lose @ Ohio St win stolen due the ref incompetence of not reviewing which led to sleeping through the Seton Hall loss and 5-9) going 2-5 since losing Mawot Mag playing on a non familiar, forced by the B1G, MSG hardwood court. That is 9 out of 12 losses under bad luck and injuries throughout the year. Rutgers still has a stronger Q1/2 record(9-8) than a bunch of teams at the 8-11 lines with too many Q3 losses or blemishes.

Kentucky has 2 Q3 losses and a Q4 loss but much higher SOS. The bubble really is very weak because of how big the gap is from Big 12 to conference 2-4, B1G, SEC and BE, and another big gap conference 5-7, MWC, Pac 12 and ACC, led to more mid major teams with high NET, weak resumes.

As far as Charleston and Oral Roberts at large, I would think they might take 1, not two as an at large first four, if both lose. How can you justify an actual seed to either resume? If they lose in the finals, it would be a Q3 loss or lower for either most likely, think Charleston has Hofstra at 88, Oral Roberts has 146 South Dakota St.

Oral Roberts(23-4, 4-0 Non D1) 0-4, 1-0, 5-0, 17-0, NET OOC SOS 5(166), SOR 42
Charleston(27-3, 1-0 Non D1) 0-1, 2-0, 9-2, 16-0, NET OOC SOS 301(338), SOR 44

Utah St has the weirdest resume ever, NET 21,
Q1/4 2-6(Q1 0-4, Q2 2-2) & Q2/3 20-1(Q2 8-1, Q3 12-0)
Can't beat good or bad teams, but 20-1 vs the middle

NET 41-80/90 is a mixed bag of resumes littered with more flaws of weaker Q1 with a cleaner sheet, weaker Q1/2 cleaner sheet, weaker resumes, and just over or under 0.500 teams that have little to no shot even with a run and loss in the finals.
 
committee does not care about bad luck and if you want them to consider injuries they would actually leave RU out since they havent been a tourney team since Mag went out, any consideration of one loss earlier without a player is balanced out by how poorly Ru has performed without Mag
 
committee does not care about bad luck and if you want them to consider injuries they would actually leave RU out since they havent been a tourney team since Mag went out, any consideration of one loss earlier without a player is balanced out by how poorly Ru has performed without Mag
Trey harsh, “How poorly”. Still beat MSU at a neutral site, Wiscy on the road, PSU on the road. We are Jekyll and Hyde.
I don’t know what committee thinks of that.
 
committee does not care about bad luck and if you want them to consider injuries they would actually leave RU out since they havent been a tourney team since Mag went out, any consideration of one loss earlier without a player is balanced out by how poorly Ru has performed without Mag
I wasn't talking to the committee or making a plea, this is easily a 21-25 win team if we were at full strength for a 31 game schedule. We almost got there despite luck not going our way, scheduling on our side and the B1G side, and injuries throughout the season. I know where we stand in the tournament, some of our own doing, some of it out of the coaches and players control.

Put our resume in a bubble, did Rutgers really have a say in playing at MSG, probably not, we play that game at the RAC, I don't think we lose Mag, fact, the MSG floor had a lot of slipping throughout the game, injury direct result of a 2-5 record last 7. The Seton Hall loss was a direct result of Ref incompetence @ Ohio St, 2 losses. There were extenuating circumstances to 3 of our 4 Q3 losses, Temple(down 2 starters), SHU(above) and Nebraska(adjusting to life without Mag). I know the committee doesn't go that deep into the resume but a lot more things went against us than for us this year and still made out well.

Did the coach decide to schedule 6 of 8 B1G games away from the RAC, 7 different buildings, each with different rims, in an 8 game span(MSG, ILL, IND, RAC, WISC, RAC, PSU, Minn) from Feb 4 to March 2, 27 days. Besides low major teams looking for paychecks, it doesn't happen at P6 or the next 6 in conference. maybe 4 of 6 or 5 of 7 at most, not 6 of 8 games, don't care MSG is considered a "Home Game", it was neutral at best. That is NBA territory 5,6,7 game road trips and even that has stopped for the NBA. These are college kids taking college classes.
 
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You obviously see fans blaming the refs for losses all the time, but blaming a call from an entirely different game is a new one for me lol
 
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