ASU and UNC losing are huge for us.
I'll take today's results... hey maybe we'll end up in one of the top two 11 seeds when all is said and done and end up in one of Albany/Columbus/Greensboro
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I'll take today's results... hey maybe we'll end up in one of the top two 11 seeds when all is said and done and end up in one of Albany/Columbus/Greensboro
Agreed that enough went our way today that a win against NW should lock us in, and we still have a shot with a loss.
Metrics on these 10/11 at larges meaningless, IMO, because nothing all that impressive. That's why they are fighting for a bottom at large seed. What does matter is the smell test. Rutgers doesn't pass there, unfortunately. Crashing late in season, playing worst 75 seconds perhaps in basketball history against the dregs of Power 5 basketball. Here, you employ the Trump Test. You use 1) gut, and 2) smell. That's a bigtime problem for RU.
Dude. We get it. Do we need every post here you do to shit on the team. Let’s just let the games play out.
It's a message board. Reasonable opinions allowed. In fact, should be welcomed. I want Rutgers to win as much as anyone. But it's simply unrealistic to believe that if we lose yet again Rutgers is still dancing.
The "smell test"/playing a bad 75 seconds/"crashing late in season" have as much bearing on NCAA selections as the VBDI/Bill Walton's predictions of 6 Pac12 Teams/what school has the coolest jerseys.
More like I properly rate confirmation bias, and the likely fact that you forget any times that your “smell test” is wrong.
Donald would always say that he didn't need to see all the data. You go on gut. And gut should tell everyone here that if we lose tomorrow, our odds of a bid are awful and will require two Tournament wins at least, though I think two would do it.
Class of 2004 was a down year for Rutgers
Can't take the annoying stupidity anymore. He joins Sante Fe as the second member of my highly exclusive ignore list
Can't take the annoying stupidity anymore. He joins Sante Fe as the second member of my highly exclusive ignore list
Ahhhh so your an attention getter that needs to be heard, thanks for confirming.
I agree they won’t deserve it but might sneak into Dayton with a loss tonight.
So glad I finally put 2004 on ignore...what a troll...no way they represent Rutgers especially when I am siding more with a PSU fan in this chat
SHU is now 74 in the net (moves a Q3 loss to Q2). MSU stays at 31.
No idea how you guys didn't have 2004 on ignore before this.
Anyway, outside of Big 10 games there's not really anything out there of note today to keep an eye on. Presumably we want Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan to lose?
Memphis hosts Houston at noon but I think Memphis is ok with a loss?
Charleston plays Stony Brook and will beat them senseless.
Anyway, outside of Big 10 games there's not really anything out there of note today to keep an eye on. Presumably we want Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan to lose?
Memphis hosts Houston at noon but I think Memphis is ok with a loss?
Charleston plays Stony Brook and will beat them senseless.
I waited too long to put that person on ignore...my day will be so much better now
I was just going through all the scenarios for BTT this morning.
Ideally, I want Indiana, Iowa, PSU, Purdue, and RU to win..gets us 6th seed playing winner of Whisky/Minny and facing Indiana in Round 3. Michigan could also win in this scenario too for this to happen but I want them to lose and help us within NCAAs. If Nebraska beats Iowa in the above, then we would face MSU rather than Maryland in round 3.
The other big game to watch is Purdue/Illinois. If Illinois wins that could put us as the 7th seed facing PSU(if they win) and then Iowa next.
Again so much can change, but I am rooting to get the 6th seed at this point which completely depends on us winning of course. With a loss we most likely face Northwestern again or Michigan
Just a morning update....not a full scrub so the confidence on this isnt as high as usual
9 SEEDS
10 SEEDS
11 SEEDS
FIRST 5 OUT
NEXT 7 OUT
I think we are basically down to 7 spots left. I think USC isnt a mortal lock but I would put them above the bubble. Rutgers has a slight edge ahead of the pack and another Q2 win today will go along way to strengthening their spot along the 10 line. Huge that SHU got that big win yesterday to eek into the top 75 at 74 so its a Q1 loss now. That looks much better on paper RU has3 Q3 losses but that can move back to by tomorrow morning. Committee looks a bit deeper so that loss to Seton Hall isnt really a bad one...but the same token the loss at Minnesota will be considered a really really really really bad loss.
Further down the bubble its a mess, a tight pack of 6 and then the first 5 out really are the serious contenders with the others a step back
A lot to play for today. A loss does not knock RU out of the field necessarily but it puts them in a group of 12 total bubbles going forward and that is a precarious place to be
9 SEEDS
- ARKANSAS
- AUBURN
- BOISE STATE
- MEMPHIS
10 SEEDS
- WEST VIRGINIA
- PROVIDENCE
- USC
- RUTGERS
11 SEEDS
- MISSISSIPPI STATE
- PITTSBURGH
- NORTH CAROLINA STATE
- UTAH STATE
- WISCONSIN
- NEVADA
FIRST 5 OUT
- PENN STATE
- MICHIGAN
- NORTH CAROLINA
- ARIZONA STATE
- CHARLESTON
NEXT 7 OUT
- OREGON
- VANDERBILT
- OKLAHOMA STATE
- CLEMSON
- VIRGINIA TECH
- NEW MEXICO
- NORTH TEXAS
I think we are basically down to 7 spots left. I think USC isnt a mortal lock but I would put them above the bubble. Rutgers has a slight edge ahead of the pack and another Q2 win today will go along way to strengthening their spot along the 10 line. Huge that SHU got that big win yesterday to eek into the top 75 at 74 so its a Q1 loss now. That looks much better on paper RU has3 Q3 losses but that can move back to by tomorrow morning. Committee looks a bit deeper so that loss to Seton Hall isnt really a bad one...but the same token the loss at Minnesota will be considered a really really really really bad loss.
Further down the bubble its a mess, a tight pack of 6 and then the first 5 out really are the serious contenders with the others a step back
A lot to play for today. A loss does not knock RU out of the field necessarily but it puts them in a group of 12 total bubbles going forward and that is a precarious place to be
Not entirely sure it’s possible to troll more obviously than for some reason mentioning Trump in five separate posts about… NCAA tournament selections?
And no one took the bait lol
And no one took the bait lol
Unfortunately, you guys probably need SHU to win 2 BET games to keep it there. Maybe only 1 if they destroy DePaul.
Correct! The most accurate thing you have posted in a long time.
My odds:
NW W, rd 1 BT tourney win - 100% in
NW W, rd 1 BT loss (Michigan) - 50% in
NW W, rd 1 BT loss (anyone else) - 70% in
NW loss, rd 1 Win (Michigan), loss - 35% in
NW loss, rd 1 win (anyone else), loss - 50% in
NW loss, 2 wins in tourney - 75% in
NW loss, 3 wins in tourney - 100% in
I think we really need one more win against another field team to feel safe. If we beat Michigan that prob won’t be them…
NW W, rd 1 BT tourney win - 100% in
NW W, rd 1 BT loss (Michigan) - 50% in
NW W, rd 1 BT loss (anyone else) - 70% in
NW loss, rd 1 Win (Michigan), loss - 35% in
NW loss, rd 1 win (anyone else), loss - 50% in
NW loss, 2 wins in tourney - 75% in
NW loss, 3 wins in tourney - 100% in
I think we really need one more win against another field team to feel safe. If we beat Michigan that prob won’t be them…
its really hard to say because today results prior to ru are oh so important with respect to Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State.
The SHU movement to Q2 is huge from a on paper eyesight thing even thought its not a huge change.
For those who missed the end of the OVC final last night, well worth the watch. Incredible game:
the wins were better last year...they were super wins and more valued than this years big ten wins..the net was the biggest issue in the upper 70s but we had just as bad losses. There are some things better than last year but some things worse
Won’t disagree. You’re the expert but you’ve also put a premium on road wins in the past and our roadies this year are way better than last. If we win tn I’d say great wins this year are on par with last year (we’d have slightly more this year but the high-end ones slightly better last year still)
our road wins are good...its still the low end among bubble schools though
the one combo of the resume that concerns me is the potential for 4 Q3 losses with the 306 non conference sos
Overall we are solid enough but never want to put yourself in a situation where the committee can focus on your negatives. You want to be above that last grouping of schools
Win tonight and we are in a so much better spot though not 100% locked.
maryland up by 13 at psu at the half.
Not an absolute lock but pretty safe
If that Minnesota collapse means we get a 10 or 11 seed instead of a 8/9 it almost works out better. Better to roll the dice against a 7/6 seed and then 3/2 than end up getting Kansas or Alabama in second round. Obviously we still gotta take care of business though
Man Maryland and Marquette making me feel a tad better about Rutgers blowing a lead. Not really but it’s hard to close out a game for a lot of teams
They went from possible 6 to 9 at best in one week
